Author Topic: What is Ivanising? (Read 9464 times)

jonjenk · « **on:** 01 March 2013, 11:04:57 pm »

Someone on here suggested I "Ivanise" my fazer1000. ... can anyone explain what this is, who does it and how much. Cheers.

AyJay · « **Reply #1 on:** 01 March 2013, 11:50:06 pm »

Sorry to be a tease! Here's the web page

http://www.ivansperformanceproducts.com/fz1.htm

The kit costs around £120 and makes a Fazer 1000 even better than it already is. Crisper throttle response, less surging on a steady throttle, smoother torque curve and the rear wheel horsepower goes from 120 to 140. Not that I did it for the top end power increase, it was more about making it more rideable. If you do a search on this forum you'll find 8 pages of glowing reports

http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,4366.0.html

It takes about 4 hours to fit but there's a chap on here called Falcon who has fitted hundreds who pops over from Spain every now and then.

http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,74.msg244.html#msg244

steve pring · « **Reply #2 on:** 02 March 2013, 08:26:47 am »

Don't worry about reading all that

Just look at the last line in the last post here http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,5911.0.html
It looks like Mike will be over here soon working his magic, the only problem is, once you know when he is coming, is the waiting.
Get in on one of his visits, you wont regret it.. I did 10 years ago and the old girl has never missed a beat since, still running sweet and pulling strong after all those years.
Steve.

Falcon 269 · « **Reply #3 on:** 02 March 2013, 08:33:20 am »

Hi JonJenk,

Drop me an e-mail (mikegreatorexAThotmail.com) and I'll give you chapter and verse on 'Ivanising'.

And yes, still thinking of a May visit ... must get started on the planning of that soon.

Mike

Topcat2006 · « **Reply #4 on:** 02 March 2013, 08:41:25 am »

How do you know if it has been done already?

FuZzBoM · « **Reply #5 on:** 02 March 2013, 09:01:48 am »

Quote from: Topcat2006 on 02 March 2013, 08:41:25 am

How do you know if it has been done already?

I 2nd that.. mine seems to be fairly smooth anyway. It has also had a few mods by the previous owner so is there an easy way to spot if it has already been done?

kebab19 · « **Reply #6 on:** 02 March 2013, 10:45:10 am »

Probably several ways, but I noticed that after fitting my kit the amount of revs while starting on full choke dropped by quite a bit - from memory she now sits under 2500rpm instead of 3000+ she used to run at

Then again, perhaps I didn't fit the kit properly :-D

Falcon 269 · « **Reply #7 on:** 02 March 2013, 05:02:17 pm »

Quickest way to check is to remove one of the carb tops (#2 is easiest) and then take out the throttle slide and inspect the needle.

If it has SD-129 or SD-130 stamped around the top, it's a standard original needle.

Ivan's needles have 5 different taper angles ground into them, two of which are obvious to the naked eye.

bigbluebear · « **Reply #8 on:** 07 March 2013, 11:41:48 am »

Any idea of the jet part numbers

Falcon 269 · « **Reply #9 on:** 07 March 2013, 06:18:47 pm »

Jets are marked 130 and 132.5. Mikuni standard parts.

You can't get at the jets without removing the carbs, which is why I suggested the needles as the quickest check.

bigbluebear · « **Reply #10 on:** 08 March 2013, 09:18:41 am »

Thanks Mike, not that I don't trust my mechanic but checked the old needles and they were SD-130 but looked at the jets and they were two different part numbers, I thought he maybe forgot to replace two of them. I did some checking with SG Motorsports and Ivans are 122.5 for the four of them.....anyone know why the old jets are two different sized and Ivans are all the same.

sadlonelygit · « **Reply #11 on:** 08 March 2013, 10:46:39 am »

Quite common with Yamaha running richer outside carbs. The old fzr4 3tj ran 1 size down on the middle cylinders. Apparently the middle cylinders run hotter. All the dyno operators told us to run 4 of a kind as at 16k rpm you dont want dodgy fuelling

bigbluebear · « **Reply #12 on:** 08 March 2013, 12:08:37 pm »

Quote from: sadlonelygit on 08 March 2013, 10:46:39 am

Quite common with Yamaha running richer outside carbs. The old fzr4 3tj ran 1 size down on the middle cylinders. Apparently the middle cylinders run hotter. All the dyno operators told us to run 4 of a kind as at 16k rpm you dont want dodgy fuelling

16k rpm on a fazer.......my clocks only go up to 13k.

if it reached 16k rpm I'd expect more than dodgy fuelling

FuZzBoM · « **Reply #13 on:** 08 March 2013, 02:03:55 pm »

Is it really worth the £110 price tag? http://www.sgmotorsport.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5&products_id=44

Going to check mine over the weekend to see if it has been done or not. I hope it has that way I can put the money towards a Multiguage

sadlonelygit · « **Reply #14 on:** 08 March 2013, 06:41:04 pm »

Quote from: FuZzBoM on 08 March 2013, 02:03:55 pm

Is it really worth the £110 price tag?

yes

AyJay · « **Reply #15 on:** 08 March 2013, 08:46:50 pm »

Yes x2

The best £110 you'll ever spend on a bike.

Falcon 269 · « **Reply #16 on:** 08 March 2013, 09:40:58 pm »

Quote from: bigbluebear on 08 March 2013, 09:18:41 am

...anyone know why the old jets are two different sized and Ivans are all the same.

Exactly as SLG called it ... your mechanic hasn't screwed up.

And yes, definitely worth it ...

ghostbiker · « **Reply #17 on:** 08 March 2013, 10:02:50 pm »

When I got mine someone had put a dyno kit on it. Ran like a bag of nails till.6k ish then off like a cat affter a rat. Hated the way it behaved.
Then mike worked his magic and was a huge improvement. So clean from low down to red line.
Had it on a dyno run a couple of times now and each time they comment on how good the fueling is.

2nd best money you can spend on the gen 1. (first being suspension)

FuZzBoM · « **Reply #18 on:** 10 March 2013, 11:49:37 pm »

Ok well you have convinced me.. so much so I got lucky on the bay this evening. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IVANS-CARB-TUNING-KIT-YAMAHA-FAZER-1000-/171001867372?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&nma=true&si=IeXm%252BTOoK%252FL87yw0gZQSLxNoIHA%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

I have had a read through the various guides and I think I am capable of doing the work myself. however if anyone has any pearls of wisdom feel free to pass them on. I am in no rush as the bike is not my primary mode of transport but having it sorted for the better weather is my goal.

Apologies to jonjenk it was far from my intention to hijack your thread chap.

Tulumbe · « **Reply #19 on:** 13 March 2013, 12:13:28 pm »

Sorry if I'd missed it, but how the fuel consumption is reflected on bike Ivanised, is there any change?

Falcon 269 · « **Reply #20 on:** 13 March 2013, 05:24:14 pm »

The basic Slip-On kit doesn't adversely affect fuel consumption and some owners even do marginally better than before because the motor drives better low down, so they hold a higher gear.

With the Full Monty installation, you're looking at around 136 - 138bhp at the rear wheel, a big gain over a typical stock 122bhp or so. You can't get that sort of extra ooomph without burning more fuel, though.

That said, if you are moderate with the throttle, you won't notice a major reduction in mpg.

FuZzBoM · « **Reply #21 on:** 13 March 2013, 10:27:31 pm »

Just reading the instructions over and the 1st note states (stock air filter only) would it have any adverse effects me running my pipercross filter?

sadlonelygit · « **Reply #22 on:** 13 March 2013, 10:43:47 pm »

AyJay · « **Reply #23 on:** 13 March 2013, 11:48:30 pm »

Quote from: FuZzBoM on 10 March 2013, 11:49:37 pm

however if anyone has any pearls of wisdom feel free to pass them on. I am in no rush as the bike is not my primary mode of transport but having it sorted for the better weather is my goal.

Yes. Getting the carburetors in and out is a painful and troubling experience, but taking the carbs apart and fitting the kit is surprisingly easy. But Fazer's are a doddle to work on generally, so lock the garage door and you'll be fine.

Pat's FZ1 site has an excellent guide to getting the carbs out and there is a YouTube video on Ivanising, but I'm damned if I can find it at the moment. Shows setting the float chambers really clearly.

FuZzBoM · « **Reply #24 on:** 14 March 2013, 07:30:56 am »

Out of interest can anyone confirm the contents of the box? in the sellers picture on eBay it shows 4 small washers. when I have received the kit it only has 1 in there??? Checked Jiffy bag but nothing in there. thanks again.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=171001867372