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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: DangerNoodle on 22 January 2017, 09:20:33 pm
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I'm planning on buying new rubber pretty soon and I was wondering what everyone here tends to go for? I'm currently considering Dunlop Roadsmart 3's since they seem to have very good reviews. Also does anyone use a non stock profile for their tyres?
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I'm planning on buying new rubber pretty soon and I was wondering what everyone here tends to go for? I'm currently considering Dunlop Roadsmart 3's since they seem to have very good reviews. Also does anyone use a non stock profile for their tyres?
If your buying new rubbers Durex is the way to go :lol
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I'm planning on buying new rubber pretty soon and I was wondering what everyone here tends to go for? I'm currently considering Dunlop Roadsmart 3's since they seem to have very good reviews. Also does anyone use a non stock profile for their tyres?
If your buying new rubbers Durex is the way to go :lol
That's latex, mate ;)
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Hiya fella,
You;re not getting many replies because "which tyres" has been battered to death on this site. You will find lots of results if you use the "search" tab at the top.
For what it's worth, I'm with Michelin PR3....... or you can run a PR3 front and PR4 rear (no 110 section PR4 available) - can't fault them and won't be swayed to anything else as a 365 rider.
Good luck :thumbup
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:agree
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pr2s no complaints
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Bridgestones - cant even remember what they are 021s 023s ?
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Metzler SportsTec M7RR :D
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Anyone tried Shinko tyres?
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Anyone tried Shinko tyres?
Nope and won't - unless i find a need to do 7000 miles in a straight line on a cruiser or genuinely go off road. Just my 2p....
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Anyone tried Shinko tyres?
Nope and won't - unless i find a need to do 7000 miles in a straight line on a cruiser or genuinely go off road. Just my 2p....
Yep I think you're right Frosties, you can pick them up cheap tho'. So what's the best budget tyre? Has anyone tried Maxxis?
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Anyone tried Shinko tyres?
Nope and won't - unless i find a need to do 7000 miles in a straight line on a cruiser or genuinely go off road. Just my 2p....
Yep I think you're right Frosties, you can pick them up cheap tho'. So what's the best budget tyre? Has anyone tried Maxxis?
Maxxis are OK judging from the couple I've had on previous bikes. Actually I do tend to 7000 miles in a straight line so maybe I'll investigate Shinkos.
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I've got a set of Bridgestone T30 Evo's on just now and they're really nice. I prefer them to the Bridgestone 021's I had on before.
Chris
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I've got a set of Bridgestone T30 Evo's on just now and they're really nice. I prefer them to the Bridgestone 021's I had on before.
Chris
I have the T30 on the rear and a BT023 on the front and i really like the combination.
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I've never been brave enough to mix and match! haha!
I honestly picked the T30 because I preferred the look of the tread pattern but also the reviews it was getting.
Chris
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I've never been brave enough to mix and match! haha!
I honestly picked the T30 because I preferred the look of the tread pattern but also the reviews it was getting.
Chris
Funnily enough i don't remember ever having tyres that were paired before in years of riding?
I've read reviews before where one has been good but the other not so good so i've always bought front at back at different times.
The T30 was the most decent tyre available when i had a puncture one day, and i got a bit mugged off when buying it but had no choice although i'm glad i bought it as i've found it good in all weathers, and the front BT023 has a deeper tread than normal which i really like as well.
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I too don't think I have ever had a matching set. I don't do the miles to wear them down quick enough and whenever I have needed one - say for the front they have dropped the model of my back so I get the latest one for the front and by the time I am ready for the back they have replaced the model of the front I had.
Every time they bring a new one out its their "best yet" more grip more wear, are they really all that different to the ones that were about 2 years ago that were then "the best yet"
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I was pretty tempted by the S20 but felt it was maybe on the sportier side for the kind of riding I do... Having said that I might try them next. It's quite rare that I ride in anything other than nice weather and sunday blasts so will see what's available when I replace the T30.
Chris
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I'm sticking with the tyres I've got now. (which hasn't changed in 8 "which tyres?" threads)
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I did a bit of googling and those Shinko tyres don't seem to be significantly cheaper than anything else, you could get a Pirelli for roughly the same price.
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I did a bit of googling and those Shinko tyres don't seem to be significantly cheaper than anything else, you could get a Pirelli for roughly the same price.
Hi Malc, I think your right, I don't think Shinko is a budget brand.
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Heidenau K60 tyres :D
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BT21's, just like it left the factory on. Over 15 years and two Fazers I've seen the need to use anything else.
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Tried Roadsmarts but had problems with losing pressure despite changing valves, perhaps I just had a bad pair......but replaced them with Pirelli angel GTs no problems with good grip and neutral 'drop in' on turning and plenty grip also good 2 up in my experience if that helps...
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Like others I've now took the plunge and when for roadsmarts, I'll see how they compare to the usual bridgestones.
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Tried Roadsmarts but had problems with losing pressure despite changing valves, perhaps I just had a bad pair......but replaced them with Pirelli angel GTs no problems with good grip and neutral 'drop in' on turning and plenty grip also good 2 up in my experience if that helps...
I did't think you could get Pirelli angel GT in a 110/70/17?
I need a pair of new tyres, i am going with Michelin PR3 and need a good supplier. Where is best to get them? online or garage/shop?
How much should i be paying to replace/fit on my FZS600
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Tyreleader-- just bought PR3 Front and PR4 rear for £178 delivered
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Tyreleader-- just bought PR3 Front and PR4 rear for £178 delivered
If you're taking them to your local for fitting then allow say £20/wheel for fitting. Still cheaper than buying from a garage.
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Has anyone fitted their own tyres,is it as easy as shown on certain websites with the right tools?. (http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/smile.gif)
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Has anyone fitted their own tyres,is it as easy as shown on certain websites with the right tools?. ([url]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/smile.gif[/url])
I fitted a front last time it needed doing. It was a bit of a struggle since I'm a bit weedy, but managed it with just levers, rim protectors and a bench vice.
I've not yet figured out how to do the rear... I need to figure out how to break the bead on the old tyre since it's too fat to fit in the vice.
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Has anyone fitted their own tyres,is it as easy as shown on certain websites with the right tools?. ([url]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/smile.gif[/url])
I fitted a front last time it needed doing. It was a bit of a struggle since I'm a bit weedy, but managed it with just levers, rim protectors and a bench vice.
I've not yet figured out how to do the rear... I need to figure out how to break the bead on the old tyre since it's too fat to fit in the vice.
There are plenty of clues on YouTube on how to break the bead, some good, some a bit iffy, but they all work.
I've never changed my own tyres, i prefer to have it done using all the correct and easy to use tools at my mechanics, then have it properly balanced as well.
It's not that expensive if you take the loose wheel in, and i know the job's been done properly for peace of mind.
Which is a bit strange as my dad and both brothers were all tyre fitters back in the day, so i've watched their methods of changing tyres on all sorts of vehicles over the years. :smash
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I too don't think I have ever had a matching set. I don't do the miles to wear them down quick enough and whenever I have needed one - say for the front they have dropped the model of my back so I get the latest one for the front and by the time I am ready for the back they have replaced the model of the front I had.
Every time they bring a new one out its their "best yet" more grip more wear, are they really all that different to the ones that were about 2 years ago were "the best yet"
Same as that, is the latest model of this or that tyre that much better than its predecessor?
Darren my mechanic that does my MOT and tyres rides an FZS600 Boxeye himself, he and his brother are the owners of their company. Plug coming up,
A Force Motorcycles of Aldershot 01252 334151.I would recommend these guys to anyone.
Now if a guy that has access to any make or model of tyre on the market fits Bridgestone Battlax BT021 sport tourers to his Fazer well that's a good enough recommendation for me.
Another plug for A Force Motorcycles, when I first bought my Fazer about 4 years or so ago the front tyre keep losing about 10 PSI pressure over a week or so period and try as I could I could not find where it was leaking. Mrs was out one day and bath half full of warm water (Well you don't want cold fingers) front wheel off the bike and in the tub, ahh! there it is a small stream of bubble coming from between the valve and the rim.
I rang up a local motorcycle shop (Who will remain nameless, cos it's only fair) to be told that they were happy to take a look and remedy the fault, great, then I was given a date about 5 weeks ahead as an appointment, click wurrrr.
Chatting to a friend of a mate of mine he said 'give A Force a bell' I did and Darren said bring it over this afternoon, but we close at 5-30.
I was back home quick, front wheel off the bike, me and wheel in my van blasting off in Aldershot direction, shit I did not have their address on me or my phone Oh! bollocks. I pulled up outside the workshop at 5-20 something, Darren was so helpful, I was red faced hot and flustered :o and thoroughly pissed off with myself for my own stupidity in the rush.
Well I was very, very impressed with the attention to detail that he poured out on my tyre and wheel, firstly cleaning the rim and confirmed the problem.
Tyre off, really taking care to look after the rim, cleaned the inside of the rim removing a tiny bit of oxidisation from in there, sprayed it with something to help stop it from reforming, new valve in, cleaned the rim of the tyre inspected the tread surface and popped it back on the wheel, balanced the wheel and added weight after cleaning the weight area with a spirit cleaner that evaporated instantly.
Now other places I have been to in the past have had signs up 'NO CUSTOMERS ALLOWED IN THE WORKSHOP AREA' these guys welcome you to come and watch.
I asked what the damage was (Financially) and was told no charge, I asked why? to be told that 'When you want work done or tyres in the future you will remember that we looked after you) What do you say, this guy did the repair the same afternoon of my initial call and was not going to charge me, not even for the new valve he fitted. I insisted he had a tenner for a couple of pints. Guess where I go for my tyres and MOT's?
I made one fatal error that day, the Mrs bellowed what the hell have you been doing in the bath. Tide mark of brake dust and general road grime around the bath :'(
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Thanks Tommy, I'll give them a try since I'm not far away. :)
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I'm planning on buying new rubber pretty soon and I was wondering what everyone here tends to go for? I'm currently considering Dunlop Roadsmart 3's since they seem to have very good reviews. Also does anyone use a non stock profile for their tyres?
If your buying new rubbers Durex is the way to go :lol
That's latex, mate ;)
The ones Tommy have are so old they are probably rubber and silver in colour :lol :lol :lol
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I'm planning on buying new rubber pretty soon and I was wondering what everyone here tends to go for? I'm currently considering Dunlop Roadsmart 3's since they seem to have very good reviews. Also does anyone use a non stock profile for their tyres?
If your buying new rubbers Durex is the way to go :lol
That's latex, mate ;)
The ones Tommy have are so old they are probably rubber and silver in colour :lol :lol :lol
I will have you know they were brand new when I bought them, mind you that was 50 years ago in Latchfords men's hairdressers in Haslmere Surrey, Something for the weekend Sir. I thought that I might have a use for them, but there they are still in the silver foil packet, never opened :'(
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Thanks Tommy, I'll give them a try since I'm not far away. :)
Cool they are two nice guys that run a small honest business that try their very best to be helpful.
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I'm planning on buying new rubber pretty soon and I was wondering what everyone here tends to go for? I'm currently considering Dunlop Roadsmart 3's since they seem to have very good reviews. Also does anyone use a non stock profile for their tyres?
If your buying new rubbers Durex is the way to go :lol
That's latex, mate ;)
The ones Tommy have are so old they are probably rubber and silver in colour :lol :lol :lol
I will have you know they were brand new when I bought them, mind you that was 50 years ago in Latchfords men's hairdressers in Haslmere Surrey, Something for the weekend Sir. I thought that I might have a use for them, but there they are still in the silver foil packet, never opened :'(
:rollin :rollin :rollin
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Don't laugh to much I have developed the muscles in my right wrist to a fantastic level :eek
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Hi peeps, picking up my new (to me) bike today. The shop has fitted a new pair of Dunlop Qualifiers and I was wondering what, if any experience anyone on here had had with them. I'm thinking I may have them removed and stick a set of RoadSmarts on, and see what I can get for the 70 mile worn, Qualifiers on Ebay or whatever, but if they're any good I may keep them on. Any advice would be welcome. Thanks.
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Hi peeps, picking up my new (to me) bike today. The shop has fitted a new pair of Dunlop Qualifiers and I was wondering what, if any experience anyone on here had had with them. I'm thinking I may have them removed and stick a set of RoadSmarts on, and see what I can get for the 70 mile worn, Qualifiers on Ebay or whatever, but if they're any good I may keep them on. Any advice would be welcome. Thanks.
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Never heard anyone talk about them, in fact i've never even heard of them before!
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Hi Darssi, they're the sportsmax D209. They just got me back 70 miles and kept me shiny side up on my new baby :D I think I'll probably keep 'em on for a few hundred miles and see how I feel after that, they seemed ok today.
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Ok - very very new to motorbikes (passed test last week) and even newer to my Fazer. Have Bridgestone Battleaxe T30s on my bike but have a puncture on the front. I find the bike handles quite skittish over lines in the road when overtaking etc and have been advised it might be because of my tyres being more 'v' shaped than 'u' shaped. Does this make sense for these tyres? What's a more 'u' shaped tyre that I could replace it with? Sorry for possible a really stupid question
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just put Michelin Pilot Road 3F 4R combination on my Fazer, after set of worn Bridgestones, and they have transformed the handling.
Seems a few others have noticed the strange V shape wear pattern on T30s.
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just put Michelin Pilot Road 3F 4R combination on my Fazer, after set of worn Bridgestones, and they have transformed the handling.
Seems a few others have noticed the strange V shape wear pattern on T30s.
PR3 + PR4 is a great combo.
The Bridgestone \_/ shape tyre is very typical of all Bridgestones Ive had 21's 23's etc.
Ok - very very new to motorbikes (passed test last week) and even newer to my Fazer. Have Bridgestone Battleaxe T30s on my bike but have a puncture on the front. I find the bike handles quite skittish over lines in the road when overtaking etc and have been advised it might be because of my tyres being more 'v' shaped than 'u' shaped. Does this make sense for these tyres? What's a more 'u' shaped tyre that I could replace it with? Sorry for possible a really stupid question
Not a stupid question Ben - if it's all new then we all start somewhere. All tyres start as a 'u' shape but for some reason Bridgestones seem more susceptible than others. When the tyre turns this shape then yup it will be very skittish over white lines and reluctant to turn into a bend. Only solution is replacement. What to replace with (manufacturer and model of tyre) is a very subjective matter based on the typical journey (commute or fun), dry weather riding only or 365 days etc and how the rider rides......aggressive or just from A to B. Factor in some unannounced financial constraints and the tyre choice moves again. All depends on above Ben.
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Sorry Darrsi, I spelt your name wrong earlier :rolleyes
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i have T30's on my 600 and they feel great once well warmed up up but i agree they do wear in a strange way , Maybe have a harder compound centre???? or just spend too much time leaned over :b
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Cheers guys. Appreciate the info. I'm looking for a general commuter tyre at the moment and will build up to a more fun tyre when I've got used to riding a bit more. I can feel the V shape in the trye and it's bloody scary for a newbie wobbling over white lines! I'm heading to get the tryes changed tomorrow and hopefully that'll gives so what would your advice be for a rookie rider commuter tyre?
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Just to add to that - I would like a 365 day a year tyre but would imagine I'll do a whole lot more miles over the next 8 or so months than over the winter month's, so would choose a great summer trye that can be used a bit in the winter over a pretty good all rounder if that makes sense?
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Hiya Ben, in that case my advice and Joey (experienced rider) + others would recommend the Michelin PR3 Front and back as a matched pair. An improvement on this would be a Michelin PR3 Front and a Michelin PR4 rear (dual compound = harder centre section for lifespan). Online tyre suppliers will have them with you by say Tuesday if bought tomorrow so worth checking price at Tyreleader (other sites available - but Joey did the research for the combo pack). Ask your local supplier/fitter their price for the tyres and fitting as separate prices then use Joey's Tyrleader price as leverage ;) [/size]
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Tyreleader-- just bought PR3 Front and PR4 rear for £178 delivered
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Cheers Frosties. That's the combo I'm seeing fairly regularly mentioned as a good pair. I'll take a look at the site and get some ordered.
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Good luck Ben - don't forget if you do get some tyres fitted tomorrow to scrub the tyres in. Typically this is done via heat so go for a 25 mile ride. Take it easy when leaving the tyre place and add heat by half acceleration and moderate braking. After that you can add some weaving (totally legal) and then gradually increase your lean angle through the bends + increase the acceleration and braking. I can scrub tyres within 5 miles but I'm allowing for a new rider - no offence intended, just safety in mind.
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Very good point - I wouldn't have thought of that! I'll come back the long way from the trye place. Thanks again.
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I run the PR3 front and PR4 rear also and find it an excellent allrounder :thumbup Good grip and long lasting, which for me that means about 4 to 5000 miles :(
Vinny B, don't go wasting money taking off the qualifiers, they are sports tyres in the same league as the Dunlop Sportsmarts and a very very good tyre. They are a little softer than the RoadSmart or Michelins PR3/PR4 and won't last as long, don't go mad on them for the first few 100 miles as they take a while to bed in and then have fun :)
I have run Qualifiers and was very happy with them, but they wore out in less than 3000 miles, I suppose riding the crap out of it probably didn't help :lol
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Vinny B
Forgot to add, the qualifiers run a slightly higher pressure than standard
2.5 bar (36Psi) front and 2.8bar (40Psi) rear
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Thanks for that unfazed, I'll check the pressures to see what they're running at. How are they in the wet? I try not to make a habit of riding in the rain but sometimes... well we are in England aren't we? :)
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Just got back from getting the tryes fitted and have PR3 front a d PR4 back. Still in the scrubbing in phase, but wow what a difference! Like night and day. The fitter did say there was some squaring off which would cause the wobble over lines and during slow cornering on my old T30s. Think I'm going to love these new tyres!
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Just got back from getting the tryes fitted and have PR3 front a d PR4 back. Still in the scrubbing in phase, but wow what a difference! Like night and day. The fitter did say there was some squaring off which would cause the wobble over lines and during slow cornering on my old T30s. Think I'm going to love these new tyres!
Nice one Ben....and you kept it shiny side up :lol . Hope you secured a good deal for this great tyre combo and used the online price to batter them. Now you're into the "WHAT PRESSURE" phase :D . Your fitter should have set the front to 36psi and the rear to 40psi which is what most of us run with.....naturally these vary from rider to rider and again are subjective to you, your weight, riding style etc but is a good starting point. Keep us informed fella :thumbup .
There's also loads of info on here regarding "WHICH BRAKE PADS", "ARE BRAIDED BRAKE HOSES ANY GOOD", "SUSPENSION ADJUSTMENT" etc....happy reading, 'cos all the answers you need are available on this great site.
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I run my PR3 front at 33 and found the 36 psi is a bit hard for the front.
Michelin recommend standard pressures for the PR3 and PR4
Fitted a new PR4 rear today, centre more worn than sides for a change due to winter and town riding, just need to balance it now and refit the wheel.
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Thanks for that unfazed, I'll check the pressures to see what they're running at. How are they in the wet? I try not to make a habit of riding in the rain but sometimes... well we are in England aren't we? :)
Never had an issues with them in the wet, but they are slower to heat up compared to PRs, once hot they were great, I have Sportec M7RR on the 1000 at present and they are the same slower than the PRs to heat up but great when warmed up.
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Thanks unfazed. I'll keep 'em on then. It looks like the Pilot Roads are the tyre of choice on the 600. I had the Roadsmarts on the R1150R to replace the BT021s I had fitted before. I loved the Roadsmarts but they were on a heavier bike than the Fazer. Plenty of time to decide now though :)
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Metzler SportsTec M7RR :D
I'm thinking along the line of these metzlers on my fazer..pr3s at the moment and i'm not feeling involved enough..can you recomend em?
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Hi Snoopgreen. Yes i can. It has a wonderfuld grip. I have been out rideing 350 km the last 3 days. The roads are a little slippy and lots of mud and stones on the small roads from the farmers. But the Metzler seems never to give up. When i hit a stone i a turn and the tyre hops, it stops hopping right away, and the turn continues without any drama. Because of the profile, the bike "falls" into turns/corners and i have to use more speed / power to get the bike back up, than i am used to with other tyres. It is a tyre u can use on a track day too. I have used my M7RR for 8.000 km and i think there is another 8.000 km left. It is a wonderfull tyre on the twisties. :D
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Ben Congrats on the tyre choice the PR3/4 combo is working brilliantly for me. As a 60 odd yr old biker returning after 15 years I thought all I would need are flat Harley style tyres lol.
But the confidence the Michelin's give me, makes me think that if it wasn't for the crash bars on my Fazer I could possibly get rid of the 15mm chicken strip on the rear? :rollin