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Title: E-cigs
Post by: snapper on 09 January 2014, 01:34:59 pm
Ok thinking about trying one of those E-cigs
Anyone out there use , used or have one
If so which one and how do you rate it any to avoid because there rubbish ?
 
 I've looked at loads of web sites but I cant find a comparison web site
 
they all seem to only sell one make ! a few different models maybe
 but that all
 
to be honest any advise would be welcome !
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: Mattsplat on 09 January 2014, 02:03:28 pm
They are not 'giving up' smoking, its just a nicotine replacement.

I'd love to be free of nictotine  :(
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: The Rocketeer on 09 January 2014, 02:05:02 pm
I read the Alan Carr book and havent had a cig for 6 years  8)
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: CRH on 09 January 2014, 02:12:15 pm
hi, snapper,..i use the VIP..ones reason being they the closest to hand rollin fags i could get?..you get atomisers that screw on the ends!!...a pkt of 5 costs around £7.00 off there site on nett?...a starter kit costs in the region of £15..t..20quid....you can get diffrent strengths of atomisers 16mgs and 24mgs"...i find the 16,s suit me best?...they have diffrent types also?..ie,...hand rollin tobac,...ordinary filter type tobac,..etc,..been using one for 2yrs now and they very good!!...the equivelent of five atomisers is approx 200..fags based on approx 40 decent puffs of each!!....cheers clive
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: Mattsplat on 09 January 2014, 02:55:45 pm
CRH, Do you get the same kinda 'hit' as a cigarette?

Im a heavy rolly smoker and the ecigs Ive tried before are like puffing on fresh air, I want that nicotine 'burn'.....
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: DrGadget on 09 January 2014, 03:23:11 pm
I've been using these  http://www.evape.co.uk/ (http://www.evape.co.uk/aspire-ce5-bdc-starter-kit.html) and not had a real cig for almost a year and I used to be on rollups as well
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: Mattsplat on 09 January 2014, 03:31:23 pm
the equivelent of five atomisers is approx 200..fags based on approx 40 decent puffs of each!!....cheers clive

So your getting about 8000 puffs per atomizer?

That cant be right.....

*my bad, thats for 5 atomizers, so thats 1600 puffs per atomizer, still seems a hell of a lot?
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: CRH on 09 January 2014, 03:42:44 pm
CRH, Do you get the same kinda 'hit' as a cigarette?

Im a heavy rolly smoker and the ecigs Ive tried before are like puffing on fresh air, I want that nicotine 'burn'.....
....if you opt out for the strongest ones ..24mgs then yes you will?...i had those to start with then weened myself down to the 16,s...these vip ones are the best ive tried and i went through loads before!!!!...the atomisers are all the same price whichever you have 16,s or 24,s alike?...look on there website?..
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: Mattsplat on 09 January 2014, 03:53:55 pm
CRH, Do you get the same kinda 'hit' as a cigarette?

Im a heavy rolly smoker and the ecigs Ive tried before are like puffing on fresh air, I want that nicotine 'burn'.....
....if you opt out for the strongest ones ..24mgs then yes you will?...i had those to start with then weened myself down to the 16,s...these vip ones are the best ive tried and i went through loads before!!!!...the atomisers are all the same price whichever you have 16,s or 24,s alike?...look on there website?..

Looking on their website and there seem to be two sorts, cigarette looking ones or pipe looking ones.
Which ones do you mean, got a link for me?
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: CRH on 09 January 2014, 04:04:12 pm
you want the fag type"...comes complete with usb charger plugs into comp!!...i think the cheapest starter kit comes with 1 pkt of 5 atomisers!!...just type in VIP electronic ciggs and chk em out?...when you order you can then choose which ones you want?..ie, 16,s or 24,s and what flavour of bacci?....like i said ime using the hand rolling one and have been for 2years plus now?...cant fault it myself?...
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: Mattsplat on 09 January 2014, 04:09:42 pm
These?
http://www.vipelectroniccigarette.co.uk/bundle-kit-tobacco-flavour-p-91.html (http://www.vipelectroniccigarette.co.uk/bundle-kit-tobacco-flavour-p-91.html)

Sorry to sound like a div but Ive wasted money on these before, was like smoking fresh air, so Im keen not to make the same mistake again  ;)
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: locksmith on 09 January 2014, 05:26:01 pm
Just stop smoking, save yourself the aggro :lol
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: snapper on 09 January 2014, 05:37:22 pm
"Just stop smoking, save yourself the aggro (http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/lol.gif)"
 
Locksmith , you can go off people you know ! :pokefun
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: CRH on 09 January 2014, 06:25:00 pm
These?
[url]http://www.vipelectroniccigarette.co.uk/bundle-kit-tobacco-flavour-p-91.html[/url] ([url]http://www.vipelectroniccigarette.co.uk/bundle-kit-tobacco-flavour-p-91.html[/url])

Sorry to sound like a div but Ive wasted money on these before, was like smoking fresh air, so Im keen not to make the same mistake again  ;)
....yep they the ones?...was alot cheaper than that though when i got mine?...email them and ask if any cheaper kits??,,,anyway you want the ..virginia strong 24mgs to start with then in time you should be able to go down to the 16,s..
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: oldmotherfoccer on 09 January 2014, 06:33:00 pm
we sell these on our stall, and most of the vapours are actually nicotine free, the strength is of the liquid if you read them carefully there is no actual nicotine in them bubble gum, root beer, and coffee are the fav flavours at the moment, although a lot of women like the chocolate
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: taylor on 09 January 2014, 07:24:11 pm
all crh said is correct, I had the old model one, gave up 3 years ago I was smoking 30 a day  30 x 11 pound 3300x 3 years , 9900, my maths aint the best, but a aint stupid either it,s a lot of dosh, and I smoked for 35 years. without the e cig I wouldn't have done it, and these new ones look ace, go for it. :D
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: mickvp on 09 January 2014, 07:32:04 pm
It does indeed add up. Even with the "cheap" fags (for e.g. mayfair), at around £7.30 per 20. 20 a day is still £2600 odd a year. thats just shy of 4k if you smoke 30 a day!!

I try to explain this to my missus who smokes and she says of course it sounds like a lot if you add it up like that  :rolleyes :lol
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: midden on 09 January 2014, 08:39:10 pm
I've been using these  [url]http://www.evape.co.uk/[/url] ([url]http://www.evape.co.uk/aspire-ce5-bdc-starter-kit.html[/url]) and not had a real cig for almost a year and I used to be on rollups as well



Few of my mates reckon these are better than the cheap cartridge ecigs. the evape gives more to back of throat for less suck and ofcourse various flavours and nicotene strengths to be had


Not tried myself as I just said foc it and stopped without gimmicks:)


REVIEW OF THE VGO 2 VV ELECTRONIC CIGARETTE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1RLsZafAow#ws)
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: oldmotherfoccer on 10 January 2014, 10:38:35 am
yep they are the ones we sell, 2 in a kit with 1 charger, 2 chambers so you can alternate flavours in a zipped pouch, £22 complete, bottles of flavours are £3 each
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: snapper on 10 January 2014, 11:16:03 am
OMF do you mean the ones in the you tube clip are the ones you sell ? if so do foccers get a special deal ?
 
do you know which flavours have nicotine in ?
 
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: Mattsplat on 10 January 2014, 11:18:20 am
OMF do you mean the ones in the you tube clip are the ones you sell ? if so do foccers get a special deal ?
 
do you know which flavours have nicotine in ?

What he said....

Do you have any 24 liquids?
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: snapper on 11 January 2014, 01:39:33 pm
Guessing Omf has'nt seen our Questions yet Matt so a little bump
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: snapper on 13 January 2014, 05:08:02 pm
another little bump to see if OldMotherFoccer is looking !
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: Liroka on 14 January 2014, 12:31:48 am
A mate of mine swears by his Tornado. I've had a couple of blasts on it and it definitely hits your throat. Plenty flavours too.


http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.co.uk/products/starter-kits-products.html (http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.co.uk/products/starter-kits-products.html)
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: dx408 on 14 January 2014, 08:16:40 am
Very basic you get two types ones that use cartomisers (like a refill tip) and others that use a tank which you fill with a liquid that you then vape (this being the cheaper way of doing it) the tank will require you to change the atomiser dependant on use. They come in many different strengths from 0 mg nicotine upto 54mg
Have been using different ones now for almost 3 years big thing to remember is to take longer slower drags
yes you can get a fag hit off them dependant on what MG you choose (would say 18 or 24 to start)
Lots of flavours to choose from   
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: snapper on 14 January 2014, 08:23:47 am
DX which make and model do you use ?

I'm finding getting unbiased reviews very hard as the reviews all seem to be but the shop selling them and each shop only seems to sell one make .

Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: maddog04 on 14 January 2014, 12:20:00 pm
be careful with the chargers folks, we're starting to get reports through of exploding lithium batteries being overcharged and shooting exploding bits up to 2mtrs and starting house fires :eek
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: snapper on 14 January 2014, 12:59:50 pm
exploding ? flipping heck maddog  not heard that before ?
are these just rumours or confirmed ? 
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: maddog04 on 14 January 2014, 02:55:05 pm
confirmed

its the overcharging of the lithium battery apparently
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: dx408 on 14 January 2014, 03:09:24 pm
I have seen reports about this as well I charge via USB off the computer and have never had a problem just take care in case
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: snapper on 14 January 2014, 03:48:37 pm
I've seen lithium battery's go up before from mobile phones to remote control toys , but this has usually been down to being damaged or water , a lot are now being replaced with some thing called a HiLo battery ( I think) which is meant to be safer but more expensive
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: oldmotherfoccer on 16 January 2014, 11:12:02 am
Quote
OMF do you mean the ones in the you tube clip are the ones you sell ? if so do foccers get a special deal ?
 
do you know which flavours have nicotine in ?

Yup those are the ones we sell, the bubblegum flavour has been thoroughly tested by Deefer even though he hasn't smoked in years but then that is one of the weaker flavours.

Most of the flavours have Nicotine in and most people smoke them without even noticing, you can buy nicotine flavours but they are more expensive and have to come from a registered tobacconist as they are then subject to duty payments. A lot of people sell them by the strength rating on the side but that is the strength of the nicotine flavouring and they do not actually contain nicotine.
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: midden on 16 January 2014, 08:39:31 pm
Quote
OMF do you mean the ones in the you tube clip are the ones you sell ? if so do foccers get a special deal ?
 
do you know which flavours have nicotine in ?

Yup those are the ones we sell, the bubblegum flavour has been thoroughly tested by Deefer even though he hasn't smoked in years but then that is one of the weaker flavours.

Most of the flavours have Nicotine in and most people smoke them without even noticing, you can buy nicotine flavours but they are more expensive and have to come from a registered tobacconist as they are then subject to duty payments. A lot of people sell them by the strength rating on the side but that is the strength of the nicotine flavouring and they do not actually contain nicotine.
So nicotene flavour liquids don't contain nicotine?
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: oldmotherfoccer on 18 January 2014, 10:16:17 pm
if by 24 you mean 24mg, yes some of the flavours will cover that, we have
APPLE               24mg/ml
BLUEBERRY                 24mg/ml
BUBBLE GUM            06mg/ml
CANABIS               00mg/ml
CHOCOLATE            11mg/ml
COFFEE               11mg/ml
COLA               06mg/ml
GRAPE               24mg/ml
LEMON               11mg/ml
MENTHOL               11mg/ml
MELLO MANGO            06mg/ml
ORANGE               11mg/ml
RASPBERRY            11mg/ml
ROOT BEER                      24mg/ml
TUTTI FRUITI            11mg/ml
VANILLA               11mg/ml
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: dx408 on 20 January 2014, 10:49:37 am
At the moment I use a Tabac with a standard 510 battery (510 is the connection not a rating the same as the ego ones) I am on 8mg/ 6mg usually use RY4 (slight caramel flavour) you can buy tobacco flavours almost anywhere such as TECC. totally wicked etc no price difference in any of them http://www.theelectroniccigarette.co.uk/products/e-liquid/pre-mixed/titan-fluid-products.html (http://www.theelectroniccigarette.co.uk/products/e-liquid/pre-mixed/titan-fluid-products.html)
Some people like to stick to a brand (like fags) as they all vary a bit. I find that the higher the nicotine the harsher the draw off them.
I started with Tesco ones with cartomisers then moved on to a microlite from there to a titan tank system (liquid is cheaper than replacement cartomisers and more flavours available) then I went to an Ego-C and now on this thing the Tacac works OK but the atomisers I find do not last as long, as they have a 510 thread I can use my battery's from the Ego and in fact the titan.

It is just the same as fags there are many to choose from each with good and bad points, if you are new to it maybe try either a disposable or one of the cheap ones from Asda or Tesco to see if you get on with them then move onto the better types and experiment with flavours etc 
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: bobdog on 21 January 2014, 01:07:58 pm
i was buying 40 richmond menthol a day at the time £7 for 20 £98 a week £5000 a year!  fucking ridiculous! that £7 is now about £7.60. i stopped the cigs 18months ago, i bought the e.cig kit the e.wicked type for £60 ( some people thought £60 was expensive) just 4 days buying cigs to me . ive never touched a cig since, still on the e.cig, no intention of packing them in to be honest, much better than smoking cigs less harmfull, £6 a week best thing i ever did :) :)
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: kawasutra on 21 January 2014, 02:06:20 pm
yep they are the ones we sell, 2 in a kit with 1 charger, 2 chambers so you can alternate flavours in a zipped pouch, £22 complete, bottles of flavours are £3 each


If you put it on your e shop, I'd e buy it.  :D
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: locksmith on 21 January 2014, 06:39:20 pm
I'm getting confused here (doesn't take much).
So those "flavours" listed with mg amounts, DON'T have any actual nicotine in them???

How many Ex smokers think they are getting a nicotine fix when in fact they are not :lol  proving you really don't need it  8)

Just for the record, I gave up the fags when they went up to a pound a pack!
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: snapper on 21 January 2014, 08:34:22 pm
"a pound a pack" Wow your showing your age there !  :lol

Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: dx408 on 21 January 2014, 09:36:00 pm
I'm getting confused here (doesn't take much).
So those "flavours" listed with mg amounts, DON'T have any actual nicotine in them???

How many Ex smokers think they are getting a nicotine fix when in fact they are not :lol  proving you really don't need it  8)

Just for the record, I gave up the fags when they went up to a pound a pack!

MG rating IS how much nicotine is in the liquid you can get 0MG liquid right up to 54 MG (more if you mix your own) I started on 18MG and am now down to 6/8mg dependant on where I buy it.

The flavour is just that a flavour and MG is the strength

Eshops such as TECC, E-Ciggy and totally wicked sell on line and accept paypal as well as other payment methods.
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: Panthor on 30 January 2014, 04:13:35 pm
Just a word of advice for anyone using ecigs. If you find you have a really red/sore throat after using one, you could well have an allergy/sensitivity to the PG (propylene glycol) in the liquid. I have this and so can only use liquids that are pure VG (vegetable glycerin). These are quite uncommon as most eliquids are made by mixing the 2 together I think usually 70pg/30vg.
I have found 2 places that do pure VG (which also produces a lot more vapour when used), www.nucig.co.uk (http://www.nucig.co.uk) is the best and you can order online, but are more expensive, also I get some from www.easyvape.co.uk (http://www.easyvape.co.uk) but you have to phone them for the pure VG, less choice but cheaper. Hope this helps someone, also if anyone knows anywhere else that does pure VG can they let me know
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: jackojet on 31 January 2014, 06:04:37 am
I have been roll up free (50grams+ a week) habit for over 2 weeks now. Already I feel better, coughing stop and wheezing in the morning.
I use a Shisha time infinity, good battery life, more than a day on one charge. The standard atomizer works well, but you do get a plastic after taste, moved on to a glass tank, much smoother vapour. I use from 16mg, down to 0mg nicotine, mixing as I go. I find fruit flavours really nice, cola, berry blitz and strawberry my favourite.
I find tobacco flavours a bit harsh, had a 24mg golden Virginia and that was vile!
Keeping to fruit flavours helps me keep away from fags.
I'm gradually reducing nicotine, but have the extra strength should I crave more .
Do get a bit light headed and get a bit of tummy ache, if been giving it some, but so much better than coughing until your wretching your guts up :eek .
I also have a Kamry K100 mechanical mod , very funky with blue anodised body, this is a telescopic ecig, has a 2000mAh battery and a special fuse to prevent it blowing up :eek . The vapour off this mod really hits the spot.
As always loads of bids with American twats testing them on you tube,but worth a watch.
 
Anyone see the tonight program on Ecigs.
Watch that and make your own choice. Currently no testing on how much safer than standard death sticks :rolleyes
Title: Re: E-cigs
Post by: fireblake on 31 January 2014, 07:02:10 am
I gave up smoking in 1988 when and my first wife decided to try for a baby. I smoked 40 Marlboro a day and about 60 a day at the weekends. I went to see a hypnotist for 3 occasions and couldn't believe that i dropped from 40 a day to 5 in under 2 weeks. I don't even think it was real hypnotism but gentle relaxation and thought suggestion. The lady doing it made a tape and i would listen to it every evening lying on my bed in the dark. The sessions were £25 a time and I'd actually stopped after the 2nd session.
I started smoking again in '93 after a friend came around who smoked rollies with Liquorice papers. Damn, i went straight onto 20 a day but quit again after 2 weeks when i realised how quickly i was hooked again. I've not touched one since.
My daughter from my first marriage used to smoke but has mostly given up but my 2 sons from my second marriage both smoke, even though their Mother and I have never smoked in their lives. It breaks my heart that they do. I can honestly say that smoking is my biggest regret in life. Except running around with my trousers around my ankles and going gobble gobble every time someone says Holiday Turkey. Click, and you're back in the room.


Mickey