Quote We never had either of those before the EUAre you just making this stuff up We never had 'Strictly Come Dancing' before the EU either.......
We never had either of those before the EU
Just to make one thing clear, VAT is not an EU invention. It existed before the EU, and many Non-EU countries have also adopted VAT systems.
Funny how all these predictions of the UK being this much or that much worse off have suddenly hit the headlines today. BofE for instance. And this would be the same BofE that didn't predict the 2008 financial crash? Governments own figures project for 15 years. So I guess in 1993, they should have been able to predict the 2008 financial crash too? In 15 years, I wonder if there'll even be an EU.
Or we could have the (failed 7 times) non MP bore Farage
Quote from: mtread on 29 November 2018, 10:19:29 amWe never had 'Strictly Come Dancing' before the EU either.......Sadly not
We never had 'Strictly Come Dancing' before the EU either.......
What they don't realise is that it doesn't matter because those who voted leave either didnt believe the project fear and even if they did they don't care and see it as a risk or price worth paying in the long run.
Quote from: mtread on 28 November 2018, 11:46:44 PM[/size]Just to make one thing clear, VAT is not an EU invention. It existed before the EU, and many Non-EU countries have also adopted VAT systems. Google tells me this. Was VAT introduced by the EU? VAT was originally a French idea, started in the 1950s. Britain introduced it as part of its condition of joining the European Economic Community. All countries joining the EEC had to replace their indirect taxes with the VAT.
Or we could have the (failed 7 times) non MP bore Farage Look at some utube of Sir Nigel Farage in action in the European parliament, and the way they treat him is pretty much how they feel about the UK.
the bottom line is those of us who voted to leave got shafted. if the country and the government had held their nerve and got a good deal, it would have been fine. but you have to hand it to the remainers (including Teresa may), they played a blinder. Make such a piss poor jo of it all that we either come out worse or have another referendum which obviously will now go the way of remain, given that we know no one in power will fight for what we actually wanted. Add in weve been humiliated by the EU, and had two years of being slated for our racism/xenophobia/stupidity etc and its a remainers victory over democracy. and you know what? mttreadand vna are right. I was stupid. For ever believing there was a chance the powers that be would see it through properly. oh well hey. I for one will never vote again, nor care whos in power both here and amongst our EU overlords.
. Useless Carney with his failed forward guidance proves he knows nothing
the bottom line is those of us who voted to leave got shafted.if the country and the government had held their nerve and got a good deal, it would have been fine.but you have to hand it to the remainers (including Teresa may), they played a blinder.Make such a piss poor jo of it all that we either come out worse or have another referendum which obviously will now go the way of remain, given that we know no one in power will fight for what we actually wanted. Add in weve been humiliated by the EU, and had two years of being slated for our racism/xenophobia/stupidity etc and its a remainers victory over democracy.and you know what? mttreadand vna are right. I was stupid. For ever believing there was a chance the powers that be would see it through properly. oh well hey.I for one will never vote again, nor care whos in power both here and amongst our EU overlords.
Keep your chin up. I had a little wobble a couple of weeks ago, but I got over it thank goodness. Although in my defence I had imbibed a few too many light ales at the time .I admit the situation doesn't look good, but it's not all over yet, as much as they'd like it to be.
Fazersharp, sorry bud I'm quoting you quoting YamFazFan but addressing yourself Doh Doh Doh! Sorry.
With the pound crashing you could potentially see the cost of motorcycle such as Yamaha’s MT10, £9999.00 before the BREXT referendum, easily end up costing 14 or 15K.
VNA you must be so conflicted because on one hand you are using brexit as a leverage tool to back up your fight for scotish independence, so if we brexit you can carry on using the "England dragging scotland out of the EU" chestnut. Yet you are backing remain and if you win that one then you put yourself one more step away from scottish independence. No wonder you are Virtually Nearly always Angry.
No wonder you are Virtually Nearly always Angry.
Quote . Useless Carney with his failed forward guidance proves he knows nothing You mean Mark Carney who graduated from Harvard with a degree with high honours in economics, before postgraduate studies at Oxford where he received masters and doctoral degrees. Then of course Goldman Sachs and the Bank of Canada before his current job. Where are the Leave 'experts' coming up with convincing forecasts and figures?
So........ where's the Leave experts and their forecasts then?