Author Topic: what did you do with your fazer today ? (Read 1605249 times)

Rospa was interesting, missed out on a gold, just,,,

I filtered to the front of a set of lights in front of a white van in a 30 section and the examiner said I could have put my self at risk if the van decided to race me, he siad he's seen it bofore

Ok, this one I can agree with, the recommendation I got from my IAM Observer was to filter to between the second and first vehicles so you don't risk someone trying to play "first away from the lights" with you.

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and also braking down from a 70 to a 30 instead of using the engine. This contradicted what an IAM guy told me to do on an IDCAM a year ago so a bit annoyed at that.

That does sound iffy.

I was advised that using acceleration sense (just slowing using the throttle) was ok for speed changes of not much more than 10mph eg going from 40mph to 30mph, but for more than that, the rule is "gears to go, brakes to slow" because it's cheaper to replace brake pads than a gear box, also, of course, using the brakes means you show a brake light to let anyone behind you know you're slowing.

Unfortunately RoSPA and IAM have slightly different group ethos, RoSPA being more about prioritising safety, so you have to play by their rules

Still, a RoSPA Silver is pretty damn good!

Hedgetrimmer · « **Reply #1532 on:** 17 November 2013, 05:21:13 pm »

Quote from: devilsyam on 17 November 2013, 04:14:31 pm

claeaned em 2 of 3 then it rained so number three stayed dirty

Greedy bugger!

Kosmic Kartman · « **Reply #1533 on:** 17 November 2013, 05:37:32 pm »

Moved it from one side of the garage to the other so I could get my long arm hedge trimmer and leaf blower out.

red98 · « **Reply #1534 on:** 17 November 2013, 05:40:20 pm »

garage clear up for me....think ive found room for one more bike

Hedgetrimmer · « **Reply #1535 on:** 17 November 2013, 05:44:44 pm »

Quote from: red98 on 17 November 2013, 05:40:20 pm

garage clear up for me....think ive found room for one more bike

Another greedy bugger...

apage16 · « **Reply #1536 on:** 17 November 2013, 08:49:37 pm »

Had to make a little improvement to my projector light units (one had come loose). So decided to jazz up the side lights while the front was off.

I fitted a couple of SMD LED strips. I reckon it looks the biz.

Details

NB The strips are inside the headlight, pointing backwards.

The middle one is a DRL thats been on for ages!

Kind of makes it looks like a face?...

unfazed · « **Reply #1537 on:** 17 November 2013, 09:28:39 pm »

Changed the rear tyre on the Gen 1 and discovered a dodgy right side bearing; a job for tomorrow after work.

mickvp · « **Reply #1538 on:** 17 November 2013, 09:45:04 pm »

Quote from: apage16 on 17 November 2013, 08:49:37 pm

Kind of makes it looks like a face?...

I thought that too. reminds me of:

mr self destruct · « **Reply #1539 on:** 17 November 2013, 09:56:37 pm »

Quote from: unfazed on 16 November 2013, 12:16:32 am

Quote from: fazersharp on 15 November 2013, 09:01:50 pm
On the engine braking thing ---doesn't anyone "blip the throttle while you are changing down when the clutch is in as that adds speed to the engine and reduces the braking a little and makes the whole thing of changing down a lot smother and means somtimes you dont even have to use the brakes
Bliping the throttle is vital to smooth gear changes, and like Nick Crisp have being doing it all my riding career and was one of the things I have always taught beginners, unless of course you have all the MotoGP electronics and seamless boxes.
I have met quite a few in recent years who have complained of not being able to down change smoothly and discussing it over a few beers realised they did not blip the throttle and had never even heard of it. The instructors they had did not teach it after trying it they do not understand why the instructors did not teach it.
Doddsie, if blipping the throttle is not making your gear changes smoother it may be that you are over doing it.
As you say Midden, emergency braking is different, mostly because you may not have the time to drop down the box.

Got to admit at no point was I ever taught this by any of my instructors. I was taught when slowing down to slightly let out the clutch to bring the engine speed up to the transmission between each gear change. The first I heard of it was a couple of weeks ago when I watched twist Of The Wrist on youtube thanks to a link on here.

Been practising it today, and when I get it right it is a lot smoother, but fuck me it's hard to get right!

I either don't blip enough and it makes no difference, or blip too much and surge forward when I let the clutch out.
I'll get it eventually though.....

Hedgetrimmer · « **Reply #1540 on:** 17 November 2013, 10:01:57 pm »

It's funny, but when I was learning to ride, mostly after I got rid of my L-plates, everyone in my peer group blipped the throttle on down-changes. I think at first, everyone just thought it sounded sorta cool. Then it became habit. I don't think any of us were ever taught to do it. I don't think that at the time we realised it had a practical application.

fazersharp · « **Reply #1541 on:** 17 November 2013, 10:06:14 pm »

Keep practising---I do it without thinking now

jason1 · « **Reply #1542 on:** 17 November 2013, 10:27:29 pm »

Do the same and got used to it without any probs . Admit it does sound nice but main bonus you get a smoother ride .

apage16 · « **Reply #1543 on:** 17 November 2013, 11:09:32 pm »

I just let the clutch in smoothly. Though I do blip when people are around and I want their attention!

unfazed · « **Reply #1544 on:** 17 November 2013, 11:45:27 pm »

The best way for beginners to practice the blipping is on an open quiteish road drop from 6th to 5th, then do it from 6th to 5th and 5th to 4th.
After a while it becomes second nature. The biggest problem most beginners have is over blipping. Usually you need less than a 1000 revs of a blip on the fazers. The high reving sports bikes need a little more, but most of them would have a slightly faster throttle which makes it easier and the lower reving bikes like twins a little less.
Like Nick Crisp I learned from peers, but in a time long before L plates and instructors

Apage16, the disadvantage of letting the clutch in smoothly is that your gear change is slower which slows you down on a hi speed spirited ride

fireblake · « **Reply #1545 on:** 18 November 2013, 11:32:34 am »

Another tip is to see how much the revs drop when changing up, usually 500 revs or so. therefore if you blip the throttle to between 500-1000 revs on a down change that should be sufficient.
I always change down as i slow, and sometimes the gearbox may over work if i'm being competitive on my ride out but I've never got to a junction and not been totally ready to pull out. This is probably why I've not had any more training. I don't think i'm doing anything wrong(I know i'm not) And I've never had a gearbox problem with any of the 20 or so bikes I've owned.
I can think of only 1 time where I've made a balls up by filtering to the front and that was next to a big Mercedes ML 350 and he totally gunned it from the lights and i was faster but then went across him to join the motorway. He justifiably used his very loud horn and very bright lights. My fault but i now look at what car is at the front and his road positioning. Still learning after 32 years of doing it.

Mickey

Punkstig · « **Reply #1546 on:** 18 November 2013, 11:52:35 am »

I may need a little more wind tunnel testing before releasing my fairing to the public, I'm thinking £50 a set as a competitive pricing, any colour/ pattern will be available, however you won't have a choice on colour/ pattern as it depends what's in the local skip or what 'for sale' signs are close to my flat at time of ordering!
Early orders will include cheap eBay cable ties in the fitting kit!

fazersharp · « **Reply #1547 on:** 18 November 2013, 11:53:32 am »

Idon't think its a good idea to be telling (not as experienced ) riders 500revs / 1000revs as on top of everything else they are going to be looking down at the counter, and after all they are changing down to turn? enter a roundabout?. Just "blip" the throttle is all they need to know and practice will perfect how much is needed in all instances

fireblake · « **Reply #1548 on:** 18 November 2013, 06:35:07 pm »

Quote from: fazersharp on 18 November 2013, 11:53:32 am

Idon't think its a good idea to be telling (not as experienced ) riders 500revs / 1000revs as on top of everything else they are going to be looking down at the counter, and after all they are changing down to turn? enter a roundabout?. Just "blip" the throttle is all they need to know and practice will perfect how much is needed in all instances

Fair enough

Mickey

unfazed · « **Reply #1549 on:** 18 November 2013, 06:55:26 pm »

Quote from: fazersharp on 18 November 2013, 11:53:32 am

Idon't think its a good idea to be telling (not as experienced ) riders 500revs / 1000revs as on top of everything else they are going to be looking down at the counter, and after all they are changing down to turn? enter a roundabout?. Just "blip" the throttle is all they need to know and practice will perfect how much is needed in all instances

I think you missed the point, the 500/1000revs were an example of how little you need to twist the throttle to get the desired effect.