Author Topic: Horsemeat: two facts, a logical conclusion and a question (Read 4764 times)

Farjo · « **on:** 15 February 2013, 12:42:18 pm »

Fact 1: horsemeat has been used instead of beef because it's so much cheaper.

Fact 2: people have been eating 100% horsemeat burgers and haven't noticed the difference.

Logical conclusion: horsemeat tastes the same as beef but costs less.

Question: would you eat burgers / meat that were clearly labeled as horsemeat (and were properly slaughtered, bute free etc) if the saving had been passed on in the price?

Lawrence · « **Reply #1 on:** 15 February 2013, 12:47:32 pm »

Yes.

I've had nice horse burgers in France before now. I've also had it raw when I was last in Japan

Fazerider · « **Reply #2 on:** 15 February 2013, 12:48:43 pm »

I've no problem with eating horsemeat, I suppose most people in the UK recoil from the idea because they think of horses as pets.

alexanderfitu · « **Reply #3 on:** 15 February 2013, 01:01:25 pm »

Yes, I wouldnt either, as long as it isnt bad for me and tastes good, then why waste it.

Farjo · « **Reply #4 on:** 15 February 2013, 01:02:14 pm »

I'm veggie, but I think I'd rather eat horse as cows are scruffier

DryRob · « **Reply #5 on:** 15 February 2013, 01:05:15 pm »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21455419

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Chief medical officer Prof Dame Sally Davies said an individual would have to consume vast quantities of horsemeat containing bute to be at risk.
She said: "A person would have to eat 500-600, 100% horsemeat burgers a day to get close to consuming a human's daily dose. [The drug] passes through the system fairly quickly, so it is unlikely to build up in our bodies."

I don't see bute as a problem and I think other intensively farmed animals are treated with antibiotics/steroids anyway and I don't worry about that. I'd eat it if I liked the taste regardless of price. I read somewhere that the only reason horse isn't already farmed is because of lower yields than beef and the emotional connection people have.

DryRob · « **Reply #6 on:** 15 February 2013, 01:08:48 pm »

and to be honest you probably don't taste much of the "meat" in processed meals anyway

phil on a fazer · « **Reply #7 on:** 15 February 2013, 01:13:57 pm »

Quote from: Lawrence on 15 February 2013, 12:47:32 pm

Yes.

I've had nice horse burgers in France before now. I've also had it raw when I was last in Japan

same here...except for the Japan bit

Buzz · « **Reply #8 on:** 15 February 2013, 01:17:54 pm »

People just have a weird cultural perception of what a diet should entail..

You look at a prawn and think "mmmm, lovely" but a cricket on a stick makes your stomach turn.

Food is food, if it contains the nutrients required for a healthy diet and it's raised in a way that meets your ethical/moral standards then get on and eat it.

"Horses for courses" they say...I just wonder if they're talking about breakfast lunch or dinner?

goldfazer · « **Reply #9 on:** 15 February 2013, 01:34:08 pm »

No problems here. Meat is meat - and horse is quite low in fat as well

caretaker · « **Reply #10 on:** 15 February 2013, 01:35:54 pm »

i'm sorry farjo, but cows are nicer than horses and have more character.

Farjo · « **Reply #11 on:** 15 February 2013, 01:47:41 pm »

When I were a kid we got taken to some urban farm and spent a few hours with the 'farmer'. He had chickens, cows, cats and dogs (and probably many others that I don't now remember). At the end we asked "What's your favorite animal" expecting him to say the dogs or maybe the cats, but he said the cows because they had the most personality.

Lazarus · « **Reply #12 on:** 15 February 2013, 02:17:42 pm »

wouldnt baulk at horsemeat - had it before (as well as kangaroo)

but we still need to eat cows - where else does the leather come from ;0

Buzz · « **Reply #13 on:** 15 February 2013, 02:37:37 pm »

Granted you get a bit more leather from a cow, but you can make it from Goats, lambs, sharks, kangaroos, ostriches, snakes and crocodiles to name a few.

I've got a pigskin leather bike seat (push not motor)!

richfzs · « **Reply #14 on:** 15 February 2013, 02:46:47 pm »

You can make leather from pretty much any mammal, I believe.

Including humans, albeit thin in our case.

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BBROWN1664 · « **Reply #15 on:** 15 February 2013, 03:38:19 pm »

If they simply stuck a label on the boxes to say "may contain horsemeat" they would probably have still sold the burgers etc rather than binning them.

I have eaten it before and will eat it again.

jon · « **Reply #16 on:** 15 February 2013, 04:06:44 pm »

I am absolutely astounded that they are still banging on about this so called 'news' scandal.
Every time I turn on the telly there is another gobshite explaining the facts as if they are talking to a class of 3 year olds. We get it. Cheap food (and expensive food too if its processed shite) contains a load of rubbish. Everyone knows it and it is NOT news!

Having worked in the food industry I am well aware of the sorts of meat that goes into sausages, the dodgy bits that go into nuggets and the feathers that go into cheap bread, to name but a few.

I eat extremely healthily, dont drink, dont smoke and train hard, but if I Feel like having a burger once in a while then I Have one and I really couldnt give a tiny rats fart what it contains as long as it tastes nice, one burger a month or a portion of nuggets aint gonna kill me, its the idiots that live on them that need to worry. After all its not rocket science to look at what you are putting on your plate is it?

nippykarl · « **Reply #17 on:** 15 February 2013, 04:37:47 pm »

I wondered why I was hung like a horse now I know its all the burgers over the years, as usual its about money lots of people have made lots of it over the years laughing all the way to the bank, and why do the pikeys have fields full of old nags that only one or to get used on the little race traps they have, anyway burger van here I come tomorrow Mmmm horsey sweet horsey.

DryRob · « **Reply #18 on:** 15 February 2013, 04:59:57 pm »

Quote from: BBROWN1664 on 15 February 2013, 03:38:19 pm

If they simply stuck a label on the boxes to say "may contain horsemeat" they would probably have still sold the burgers etc rather than binning them.

I have eaten it before and will eat it again.

Who said they won't do this and sell them somewhere else?

stevierst · « **Reply #19 on:** 15 February 2013, 07:08:06 pm »

Horse meat is generally better quality than beef, but I wouldn't really eat it as me and my family keep horses. Its more the disconnection from them being pets really.
I also keep chickens, but I love a tikka masala. Wierd :-\

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badger · « **Reply #20 on:** 15 February 2013, 07:23:17 pm »

i'm not a fussy eater and would probably try horse out of curiosity if I saw it on a menu somewhere? I was at the Melton Mowbray market on tuesday and a couple of stalls had kangaroo, ostrich burgers etc and no one was jumping up and down and stoning the stall owners! What I cant comprehend is how horse meat is cheaper than beef? are there horse farms where they are bred like cows for their meat?
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stevierst · « **Reply #21 on:** 15 February 2013, 07:29:45 pm »

Yep, there are horsemeat farms in Europe, just like there are dog farms that breed them for meat somewhere in China or somewhere like that.

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Looney tune · « **Reply #22 on:** 15 February 2013, 07:37:07 pm »

So if some of you were left with only horse meat to survive on you would starve to death ? Bollocks.

fazed · « **Reply #23 on:** 15 February 2013, 08:14:48 pm »

Would it bother me to eat horse meat no - like others I have had it before & it was fine.
What I don't like is being lied to and possibly having horse that was not suitable for human consumption or destined as petfood & paying beef price for it! No one should put up with being ripped off and lied to by suppliers who claim quality but sell by lying or negligence and packaging what is probably crap! You wonder whether this horse thing is just the tip of the iceberg!

BBROWN1664 · « **Reply #24 on:** 15 February 2013, 08:22:59 pm »

The reason horse is cheaper than beef is that horse is generally sold for scrap value rather than the cost it took to produce.