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Handlebar wobble at speed
« on: 30 November 2016, 10:27:33 pm »
Even though I have devileyam R6 shock fitted I am getting a wobble from the handle bars while accelerating at high speed.

Is there a relatively simple way to reduce or better, cure this without going down the steering damper route..?

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Re: Handlebar wobble at speed
« Reply #1 on: 30 November 2016, 11:05:50 pm »
More info -
  • Moving the handlebars from left to right - smooth, One finger from left to right with zero distortion.
  • Tyres - I have a set of Pilot Road 2's on the bike since the summer, around about 2,000 miles done on them.
  • Forks - completely rebuilt back in the summer.
  • Weight - well I weigh about 93kg withpout gear, no topbox.
  • I don't take my hands off the bars, but it does it hands on or off.

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Re: Handlebar wobble at speed
« Reply #2 on: 30 November 2016, 11:51:12 pm »
Have you dropped the yokes down the forks or if so how much ? I got similar on my foxeye 600 when I fitted a jack up kit and dropped the yokes , I raised the forks back to normal and it cured it. Not sure if it is correct but I was told that dropping yokes quickens the steering but reduces high speed stability.

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Re: Handlebar wobble at speed
« Reply #3 on: 01 December 2016, 08:11:59 am »
Forks have not been dropped through.

Pilot road 2's are good tyres but I wonder if they are part responsible for the wobble...

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Re: Handlebar wobble at speed
« Reply #4 on: 01 December 2016, 08:22:31 am »
Had the same wobble on maximum acceleration  ;)    turned out to be swing arm bearings.....hows your tyre pressures ?
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Re: Handlebar wobble at speed
« Reply #5 on: 01 December 2016, 06:59:13 pm »
If yokes at normal height the only other things I could think of might be , wheel bearings , wheel balance and as previously said tyre pressures

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Re: Handlebar wobble at speed
« Reply #6 on: 06 December 2016, 10:47:49 pm »
Checked TP's and they were both below normal, corrected that and the wobble is mostly cured. I can still make it 'wibble' at speed or under acceleration, and I am fairly sure the swing arm bears are fine (there were last MOT and the bike hasnt done much miles since then.

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Re: Handlebar wobble at speed
« Reply #7 on: 07 December 2016, 06:38:53 am »
How many miles since last checking the pressures ?  Could be unusual tyre wear due to incorrect pressures....I would run it as it is for a couple of hundred miles until the tyres are wearing normally. .....strange things tyres
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Re: Handlebar wobble at speed
« Reply #8 on: 07 December 2016, 09:36:03 am »
are the balance weights still on? i lost one of mine once with a pressure washer

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Re: Handlebar wobble at speed
« Reply #9 on: 08 December 2016, 09:34:20 pm »
How many miles since last checking the pressures ?  Could be unusual tyre wear due to incorrect pressures....I would run it as it is for a couple of hundred miles until the tyres are wearing normally. .....strange things tyres
I normally check once a week, but forgot

None of the FZS1000's I have owned have never what I would call rock sold full stable at speed or under high speed acceleration, and this was confirmed when I bought a 1200 bandit. which is like a tank when it comes to high speed stability and wind protection when compared to the FZS.

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Re: Handlebar wobble at speed
« Reply #10 on: 08 December 2016, 09:49:30 pm »
try this ==under hard acceleration the rear is loaded hence the swinging arm bearing post which is a good line to follow mots look for excess play only small play is undetected till loaded

also try going up 1 click on preload this will make the rear harder and place load on the front

worth a go
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Re: Handlebar wobble at speed
« Reply #11 on: 09 December 2016, 08:44:49 pm »
  • swinging arm bearing play is undetected till loaded
  • also try going up 1 click on preload this will make the rear harder and place load on the front
  • Good info, will get a new set of bearings and swap them out asap. Will 3rd party be good, or better to go genuine..?
  • Will do, thanks for the tip fella. (@all, this info is relevant & usefull because I have one of DY's R6 shocks on the bike atm.)
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Re: Handlebar wobble at speed
« Reply #12 on: 09 December 2016, 08:56:41 pm »
i have used the ones from simply bearings of ebay but try the preload as its free to do before buying bearings
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Re: Handlebar wobble at speed
« Reply #13 on: 09 December 2016, 10:27:59 pm »
i have used the ones from simply bearings of ebay but try the preload as its free to do before buying bearings
Ta and will do.