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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Stretched chain and long miles?
« on: 21 July 2012, 09:35:32 am »

 :thumbup Glad to hear it survived the trip OK, but yes... 12,000 is a very poor lifetime for a chain.
A decent one with a regular supply of lubrication should last 2 to 3 times that distance.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Help wanted with intermittent starting issue
« on: 20 July 2012, 09:53:57 pm »
Glad to hear it's going well, though feeling a little guilty at suggesting a purchase that may have been unnecessary. Kind of assumed some WD40 (or whatever brand of water displacement fluid you prefer) would have been sprayed at the likely problem areas already!
At least you found the caps at a lower price than I paid. :)

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Your Suggestions and How you can help / Re: how about............
« on: 20 July 2012, 12:45:46 pm »
It probably wouldn't make any difference, they'll just clutter up the 'General' or model-specific areas with the advert instead.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Brake disc bolts
« on: 19 July 2012, 07:35:58 pm »
When I changed my rear disc last year I had similar difficulties undoing the bolts. The screwlock Yamaha used on assembly seems to gain strength with time... I'd had minimal difficulty with the front discs, but have needed to change those every 3 or 4 years so the bolts hadn't had so much time to bond to the hub.


Cooking the rear wheel to about 50ºC softened the compound sufficiently on 4 of the bolts. The last two were really stubborn, I ended up taking U-channels of 3mm scrap steel with a 12mm hole near the end and welding them to the bolt heads. The higher temperature and extra torque I could apply was enough to shift them.





I was a bit concerned that the high temperature could have weakened the alloy, but was able to torque the replacement bolts up OK without the threads stripping so figured that the heat that did reach the alloy was conducted away fast enough to avoid damage.


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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: project shoestring...............
« on: 19 July 2012, 02:42:25 pm »
Ye gods!
Where did you find oil at that price? :eek

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General / Re: Riding in the wet
« on: 19 July 2012, 02:39:58 pm »
(Apologies if I'm teaching you to suck eggs with that last suggestion, but some folks aren't aware of the value of the rear brake other than as "the one that can't throw you over the handlebars". ;) )

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General / Re: Riding in the wet
« on: 19 July 2012, 02:31:54 pm »
Jamie, it may be that your bike isn't as well fettled as it could be if you're suffering from a snatchy throttle response.
Are the carbs balanced?
Check you don't have excess slack in the throttle cables.
Make sure the chain is correctly adjusted and the cush drive rubbers aren't knackered.
Is it misfiring?
If they're all OK then one technique you may find useful for smoother riding is to drag the back brake slightly when cornering. Not to slow you down, just enough to keep the top run of the chain taut... that way, when you start to open the throttle, there isn't any slack to take up before the power arrives at the rear wheel.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Brake disc bolts
« on: 19 July 2012, 12:09:09 pm »
I would (and do) use A4 s/s bolts on the rear and would feel less comfortable about using them on the front.
Temperature considerations are not the issue: the rear does only a fraction of the work of the fronts so the slightly better conduction to the bolts is not a significant factor.
Shear strength is what matters. Most readily available s/s bolts have a thread that extends all the way up to the head of the bolt whereas the OEM bolts have a plain shank of a depth that matches the disc thickness. So the replacement bolts are effectively a smaller diameter.
Back-of-an-envelope calculations suggest that there is still a big safety margin for the rear, particularly since braking forces there are relatively small compared to the fronts. Even so, and despite the fact that the braking loads are shared across the two front discs, I'd err on the side of caution and stick to OEM bolts at that end.
http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,2361.msg18102.html

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Help wanted with intermittent starting issue
« on: 18 July 2012, 04:45:58 pm »
As this started after a soaking it sounds very much like an electrical issue.
A lot of these intermittent misfire/starting problems vanish after a change of plug caps so I'd recommend you try that before anything else. Get some NGKs, part number SD05F. They're straight, not 90º like the OEM ones, but they're a sensible price. Cut 4 or 5 mm off the ends of the leads before screwing them on to ensure decent contact.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Stretched chain and long miles?
« on: 14 July 2012, 07:25:22 pm »
Obviously it's preferable to replace before the trip, but if you can ride with a gentle right hand, particularly in lower gears, and keep the speed down to legal levels you'll probably be OK.
As V. Bodysnatcher says, modern chains are pretty tough: I've done a far greater distance than you're planning on a chain which actually had a broken side-plate! (In my defence, I had inspected it several times to investigate the slight rhythmic clunk I could feel before the crack became wide enough to see.)

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General / Re: Photography Competition - July
« on: 14 July 2012, 12:05:59 am »
I found a drawer-full of these little combination locks at work... the problem with open-plan offices is everything of value needs to be secured to something big, so we get through a lot of 'em. Thought they'd make a suitable shot for this month's topic.



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General / Re: What's in your garden.................
« on: 11 July 2012, 11:50:07 pm »
Got home a bit late for wildlife spotting.
I certainly didn't spot the large snail my boot discovered as I walked up the garden path. :lol

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General / Re: Hi-Fi question?
« on: 11 July 2012, 01:42:53 pm »
If the existing speakers are OK and you have a DVD player, how about an AV receiver? It'll do your TV sound, CDs can be played in most DVD players, FM radio is built in so you'd just need to add a DAB tuner.
Richer Sounds always used to be a good place to look for bargains, don't know if that's still the case.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Best way to locate a coolant leak?
« on: 10 July 2012, 02:23:49 pm »
You don't need any fancy equipment to check this. If the leak does only occur under pressure, then running the engine until it's hot will achieve that.
I'd look closely around the radiator as a first place to check, it's wafer thin aluminium and subject to corrosion and impacts.
But, as Darrsi says, top up the coolant level before investigating.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Too good to be true?! First bike a'hoy!
« on: 10 July 2012, 09:08:45 am »
I think i'm right in saying the cam chain normally goes around the 30k mark, so i'd hazard a guess that a 35k bike will need it changing!
News to me. :eek
(First engine 114k,  current engine approx 60k, never touched the camchain on either.)

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I'm not a heating engineer, but wouldn't expect the level check valve to cut off flow to the pump. It's purpose is simply to isolate the transparent column when not in use.
This sounds more like an airlock at the pump or a faulty pump.
Is the level of oil above that of the pump? If not it may need some sort of priming procedure.

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General / Re: Just done something monumentally stupid
« on: 08 July 2012, 05:12:35 pm »
Hope you've not come back in to update us on the story and left it running out there again. :rollin


Wondering about the cause of the incident: does the fan come on OK when the coolant is hot?

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: front sprocket cover gasket
« on: 07 July 2012, 05:44:43 pm »
Just clean up the surfaces and bolt it back together, the gasket doesn't do anything useful.
You may find the clutch needs a slight adjustment as without the gasket the pushrod will be closer to the actuating mechanism on the sprocket cover.

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General / Re: What Fazer did you spot today?
« on: 07 July 2012, 11:55:38 am »
Anyone actually recognised another FOC'er?
I sometimes park my tatty old thing next to a smart silver FZS600 (02 plate with the foc-u URL) in the bike shelter at TVC. Looks a well sorted machine... Technoflex rear shock, blue spot rear caliper... but I've not met the owner.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: 98 fazer 600 engine temp?
« on: 06 July 2012, 08:45:34 pm »
Most people find the over-temperature light only ever comes on when riding in heavy rain: not 'cos the engine's too hot, but the sensor terminal isn't well insulated so gives misleading results when wet.
Additionally, the sensor is mounted in the wrong place: it's not measuring engine temperature but that of the coolant. The most common reason for a Fazer to overheat is loss of coolant (usually due to a leaking radiator). The thermostat housing (where the sensor is) is at the top of the coolant circuit so stays cool as the engine cooks.
So the light on the console is best regarded as a guide to the weather, it's feck all use for anything else. :D

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General / Re: New to bikes need advice
« on: 05 July 2012, 12:18:40 am »
Not at all. Provided there's evidence that the bike's been cared for (has had regular oil changes, valves clearances checked at some point and isn't making clattering noises) there is no need to regard that sort of mileage as a problem. Fazer engines should be good for at least twice that distance.
Most people do avoid higher mileage machines so you ought to be able to negotiate the seller down to a good price.  ;)

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General / Re: It's finally happened :(
« on: 04 July 2012, 09:07:34 pm »
Nah, mine lay on the floor, flapped about a bit then got squished by a bus following me.
:rollin :rollin :rollin
I'm sure we all appreciate your efforts to help the evolution of pigeons with road sense.


I've been lucky, the largest direct hit I've had was a collared dove (about half the weight of a pigeon) on the chin of my helmet at 40mph. Nasty jolt to the neck, that.
A pheasant hit the handlebar when I was on my GPZ305 many years ago and that very nearly had me in the ditch...  fortunately, the only damage was a crack on the fairing, but at least I got a meal out of the bird. :lol
Swans have a habit of flying across the M3 at Teddington at a very low altitude, that makes me kinda nervous... those things are fecking big!

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: broken bleed nipple?
« on: 01 July 2012, 11:09:37 pm »
Sorry to hear that Tonie.
You can pick up a stainless steel engine bolt kit for about £12 on eBay, bleed nipples are a few quid each.
Assuming said numty hasn't done a similar trick with the banjo and brake mounting bolts you should be able to bleed the back brake by taking it off and angling it to get the bubbles to the inlet, then squeezing the pistons in to push the air up to the banjo at the top of the master cylinder where you can let it out... fiddly job, but it does work.

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General / Re: *** June photo comp - VOTE ***
« on: 01 July 2012, 06:32:48 pm »
Voted... and found it a hard choice. There were six contributors I'd have liked to give points to this month. :)

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: h1 bulb to a h4 or h7 bulb
« on: 01 July 2012, 09:46:50 am »
One project I started a while back was to fit an H4 in place of the existing H1. I've not got round to completing it yet, but the difficult bits are done.
Enlarging the hole in the reflector to accommodate the bigger bulb base is a slow job, the weird high temperature plastic it's made from is loaded with silica or something that destroys drill bits and hacksaw blades in seconds. Having got a hole into which the bulb will fit, you then need to fabricate a back plate to provide a clamp for the bulb. All a bit of a faff, but the light output is a huge improvement over the original set-up and dipped beam looks almost as well controlled.
Having said that, most people just seem to opt for various aftermarket HID systems despite the fact  that they ought to fail the new MOT test.

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