Date: 18-05-24  Time: 21:36 pm

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Starting / Electircal issue.
« on: 03 July 2013, 03:22:53 pm »
Went out to fill up and ended up with a knackered bike.

Filled up. Parked up. Went to start it again (might have confused it with the alarm). The hazards came on. Tried the hazard switched, no joy.

Switched off, armed the alarm, disarmed and it started OK, but the hazards stayed on - all the way home.  :o

Recycled and got the hazards oiff but now it won't start and i just get a clicking from under the seat.

I've removed all the relays and the ECU.

And this is after fully charging the battery at the weekend.

Boo hoo.  :'(

Please help ?

DBo.

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Re: Starting / Electircal issue.
« Reply #1 on: 03 July 2013, 03:47:55 pm »
At the risk of replying to my own post....

Been on charge for 30 mins and now starts OK.

Maybe 3 starts in less than an hour has tired the battery ?

DBo.

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Re: Starting / Electircal issue.
« Reply #2 on: 03 July 2013, 06:18:46 pm »
Maybe you have a tired battery! ;)
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Re: Starting / Electircal issue.
« Reply #3 on: 03 July 2013, 06:31:45 pm »
I think you need a new battery....


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Re: Starting / Electircal issue.
« Reply #4 on: 03 July 2013, 08:05:26 pm »
I put some fresh electricity in it!  :D

Maybe it is on its way out.

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Re: Starting / Electircal issue.
« Reply #5 on: 04 July 2013, 12:05:41 am »
I put some fresh electricity in it!  :D

Maybe it is on its way out.


There you go then.


If you left it long enough to NEED a re-charge then the capacity of the battery to hold charge is reduced.


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If your battery was needing attention last weekend then that's the first place to look IMHO.


The clicking is the solenoid which is the main switch between the battery and the starter (not enough juice to open the circuit fully) - with the ignition on, short across the two terminals with a screwdriver CAREFULLY! Sparks!!!!


If you get the same click your battery is focced. If it spins the starter then it's the starter circuit between the bars and solenoid.


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PS Just a thought but if you took the battery terminals off to charge the battery, are you sure they are on tight now.....? May have vibrated loose - same issue, not enough juice flowing to trigger the soleniod.
« Last Edit: 04 July 2013, 12:08:45 am by The Male Whale »
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Re: Starting / Electrical issue.
« Reply #6 on: 04 July 2013, 09:31:11 am »
Thanks Whale. Sound advice.

I put it on charge as it had sat for a couple of weeks and the alarm runs the battery down. I think the starting cycles (x3) in a short time did for it, but I'm confused why the hazards got stuck on.

I use a charger/conditioner with the terminals permanently attached and tucked under the side cover. I'll keep an eye on it for now and if it happens again I will get a shiny new battery. Worked on a car I had before now.

Cheers, DBo.

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Re: Starting / Electircal issue.
« Reply #7 on: 05 July 2013, 10:26:50 am »
Battery on the way out I reckon; a knackered battery can cause strange symptoms on many bikes.

In a year and a half, I've never charged the battery on my 600, even when it's been stood for weeks on end (with the immobiliser drawing on it).
Many people leave a battery on an Optimate or similar believing the battery will last almost forever; it's not something I would personally do.

A "load-test" (ask your workshop) will highlight any weaknesses in your battery pretty quickly.

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Re: Starting / Electircal issue.
« Reply #8 on: 05 July 2013, 10:54:51 am »
i have had just clicking and killed 2 batteries including a brand new one trying to start it. have also had it just turning over and not firing. i read somewhere about cleaning the ignition switch i did that and it worked fine. just as another possibility for you. an easy check that does not cost :)
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