Date: 19-04-24  Time: 20:09 pm

Author Topic: Suppressor caps  (Read 1813 times)

Valley boi

  • Cager in Training
  • Posts: 17
    • Main bike:
      FZS600 00-01
    • View Profile
Suppressor caps
« on: 20 March 2021, 04:26:09 pm »
Just giving the bike a clean while it was ticking over and heard arcing so checked the leads/plugs and noticed arcing between the bottom of the caps to the head but the rubbers are a good tight fit over the plugs. All 4 are the same, any info be good as got mot soon. Cheers

BBROWN1664

  • Administrator
  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 13,072
  • Should get out more!
    • Main bike:
      FZS600 00-01
    • - Tracer 900
    • View Profile
    • My website
Re: Suppressor caps
« Reply #1 on: 20 March 2021, 05:49:43 pm »
It shouldnt be an MOT failure but does sound like your caps are focced. Get some new caps and trim 5mm of the leads when you fit them.
Another ex-Fazer rider that is a foccer again

Valley boi

  • Cager in Training
  • Posts: 17
    • Main bike:
      FZS600 00-01
    • View Profile
Re: Suppressor caps
« Reply #2 on: 20 March 2021, 06:16:31 pm »
Which are the best caps to get ?

darrsi

  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 10,650
    • Main bike:
      FZS600 00-01
    • View Profile
Re: Suppressor caps
« Reply #3 on: 20 March 2021, 06:22:42 pm »
Ebay NGK SDO5F


Tried and tested, and a damn site cheaper than OEM.
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.

darrsi

  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 10,650
    • Main bike:
      FZS600 00-01
    • View Profile
Re: Suppressor caps
« Reply #4 on: 20 March 2021, 06:29:03 pm »
Your choice, go for OEM if you want  :lol
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.

Valley boi

  • Cager in Training
  • Posts: 17
    • Main bike:
      FZS600 00-01
    • View Profile
Re: Suppressor caps
« Reply #5 on: 20 March 2021, 06:40:12 pm »
They look like the ones on the bike already 😳

darrsi

  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 10,650
    • Main bike:
      FZS600 00-01
    • View Profile
Re: Suppressor caps
« Reply #6 on: 20 March 2021, 07:53:46 pm »
They look like the ones on the bike already 😳


They are, they're OEM ones.


Lots of us use the NGK type, and they work just fine.


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4x-NGK-Resistor-Spark-Plug-Cap-SD05F-black-8022-/232610727266?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292
« Last Edit: 20 March 2021, 07:54:53 pm by darrsi »
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.

Valley boi

  • Cager in Training
  • Posts: 17
    • Main bike:
      FZS600 00-01
    • View Profile
Re: Suppressor caps
« Reply #7 on: 21 March 2021, 09:51:54 am »
Right I Just bought them, what about plugs.

darrsi

  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 10,650
    • Main bike:
      FZS600 00-01
    • View Profile
Re: Suppressor caps
« Reply #8 on: 21 March 2021, 10:31:46 am »

You're gonna have to ignore the price, and remember how much you just saved on the caps. From experience i can promise you this is the way to go. They are generally more throttle responsive and will probably outlive the bike.

https://www.gsparkplug.com/1x-ngk-iridium-ix-spark-plug-cr8eix-4218.html
« Last Edit: 21 March 2021, 10:36:12 am by darrsi »
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.

darrsi

  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 10,650
    • Main bike:
      FZS600 00-01
    • View Profile
Re: Suppressor caps
« Reply #9 on: 21 March 2021, 10:32:43 am »
Don't buy plugs from Ebay, i learned that lesson the hard way.
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.

Gnasher

  • Foc-u Brake Doctor
  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 5,605
    • Main bike:
      FZS600 98-99
    • - ZX10R, XJR1300, X10, GSF1000GT
    • View Profile
Re: Suppressor caps
« Reply #10 on: 21 March 2021, 12:24:33 pm »

You're gonna have to ignore the price, and remember how much you just saved on the caps. From experience i can promise you this is the way to go. They are generally more throttle responsive and will probably outlive the bike.

https://www.gsparkplug.com/1x-ngk-iridium-ix-spark-plug-cr8eix-4218.html

They do absolutely nothing for performance, this debate was put to bed years ago. 

Platinum and Iridium plugs were developed to increase plug service life, to keep pace with advances in engine materials and oil tech, pushing service intervals of cars to 20k plus mileages.   They do that by being harder, they resist wear from spark erosion much better than nickel alloy which is what standard or what's referred to as copper core.  But copper core perform better than either Platinum or Iridium they just don't last as long and as they fail the start to misfire more.  Plugs with dual or multi electrodes were developed for the same reasons, i.e. service life, Platinum and Iridium perform better, the latter being better the the former of the two. 

Yes they will last longer no they won't increase throttle response, its placebo effect.  All that is happening is the old plugs were starting to breakdown (misfiring) changing them with standard plus will give you the same result.   
Later

Gnasher

  • Foc-u Brake Doctor
  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 5,605
    • Main bike:
      FZS600 98-99
    • - ZX10R, XJR1300, X10, GSF1000GT
    • View Profile
Re: Suppressor caps
« Reply #11 on: 21 March 2021, 12:27:36 pm »
Don't buy plugs from Ebay, i learned that lesson the hard way.


Why not?  There are many dealers/sellers on ebay who deliver an excellent service. 
Later

Valley boi

  • Cager in Training
  • Posts: 17
    • Main bike:
      FZS600 00-01
    • View Profile
Re: Suppressor caps
« Reply #12 on: 21 March 2021, 06:29:09 pm »
Just bought some oem plugs, that's what yamaha recomend so I'll give them a go.

darrsi

  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 10,650
    • Main bike:
      FZS600 00-01
    • View Profile
Re: Suppressor caps
« Reply #13 on: 21 March 2021, 07:48:13 pm »

You're gonna have to ignore the price, and remember how much you just saved on the caps. From experience i can promise you this is the way to go. They are generally more throttle responsive and will probably outlive the bike.

https://www.gsparkplug.com/1x-ngk-iridium-ix-spark-plug-cr8eix-4218.html

They do absolutely nothing for performance, this debate was put to bed years ago. 

Platinum and Iridium plugs were developed to increase plug service life, to keep pace with advances in engine materials and oil tech, pushing service intervals of cars to 20k plus mileages.   They do that by being harder, they resist wear from spark erosion much better than nickel alloy which is what standard or what's referred to as copper core.  But copper core perform better than either Platinum or Iridium they just don't last as long and as they fail the start to misfire more.  Plugs with dual or multi electrodes were developed for the same reasons, i.e. service life, Platinum and Iridium perform better, the latter being better the the former of the two. 

Yes they will last longer no they won't increase throttle response, its placebo effect.  All that is happening is the old plugs were starting to breakdown (misfiring) changing them with standard plus will give you the same result.


Throttle response felt better to me, and that's really all that matters.
And you've gone to all that trouble saying Iridium aren't better but then in the same breath explain how standard one's fail?  :lol
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.

darrsi

  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 10,650
    • Main bike:
      FZS600 00-01
    • View Profile
Re: Suppressor caps
« Reply #14 on: 21 March 2021, 07:50:17 pm »
Don't buy plugs from Ebay, i learned that lesson the hard way.


Why not?  There are many dealers/sellers on ebay who deliver an excellent service.


Because I bought moody ones from there that failed after one month.
The company I suggested are not only totally legit but are normally a better price anyway.
« Last Edit: 21 March 2021, 07:51:47 pm by darrsi »
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.