Also this must be the first occasion that hundreds of new drivers have driven on snow. A skid-pan lesson could be incorporated leading up to the test. I think they do this in one or some Scandinavian countries.
BBC news outside broadcast today showed convoys of vehicles all travelling too close and none with lights on even though it was blizzard conditions.All too busy prodding their satnavs and checking their mobiles.
Quote from: DILLIGAFF on 01 March 2018, 11:22:44 amBBC news outside broadcast today showed convoys of vehicles all travelling too close and none with lights on even though it was blizzard conditions.All too busy prodding their satnavs and checking their mobiles.Cars were flying down my side road yesterday about 30mph, but the whole road is black ice. Due to positioning of the road it stays in the shade until mid afternoon then a couple of hours later it's dark so unless the temperature rises it just stays put, but gets topped up by any more snow.
Quote from: darrsi on 01 March 2018, 11:41:05 amQuote from: DILLIGAFF on 01 March 2018, 11:22:44 amBBC news outside broadcast today showed convoys of vehicles all travelling too close and none with lights on even though it was blizzard conditions.All too busy prodding their satnavs and checking their mobiles.Cars were flying down my side road yesterday about 30mph, but the whole road is black ice. Due to positioning of the road it stays in the shade until mid afternoon then a couple of hours later it's dark so unless the temperature rises it just stays put, but gets topped up by any more snow.BMW's?. Most of the occasions where I see this sort of thing it's BMW drivers.
Quote from: YamFazFan on 01 March 2018, 07:09:50 pmQuote from: darrsi on 01 March 2018, 11:41:05 amQuote from: DILLIGAFF on 01 March 2018, 11:22:44 amBBC news outside broadcast today showed convoys of vehicles all travelling too close and none with lights on even though it was blizzard conditions.All too busy prodding their satnavs and checking their mobiles.Cars were flying down my side road yesterday about 30mph, but the whole road is black ice. Due to positioning of the road it stays in the shade until mid afternoon then a couple of hours later it's dark so unless the temperature rises it just stays put, but gets topped up by any more snow.BMW's?. Most of the occasions where I see this sort of thing it's BMW drivers.No matter what the occasion or weather, if bad driving is involved a BMW will pop up somewhere.
Can't see the link to that video
Quote from: darrsi on 01 March 2018, 08:08:31 pmQuote from: YamFazFan on 01 March 2018, 07:09:50 pmQuote from: darrsi on 01 March 2018, 11:41:05 amQuote from: DILLIGAFF on 01 March 2018, 11:22:44 amBBC news outside broadcast today showed convoys of vehicles all travelling too close and none with lights on even though it was blizzard conditions.All too busy prodding their satnavs and checking their mobiles.Cars were flying down my side road yesterday about 30mph, but the whole road is black ice. Due to positioning of the road it stays in the shade until mid afternoon then a couple of hours later it's dark so unless the temperature rises it just stays put, but gets topped up by any more snow.BMW's?. Most of the occasions where I see this sort of thing it's BMW drivers.No matter what the occasion or weather, if bad driving is involved a BMW will pop up somewhere. Are they still all rear wheel drive?.Not such a superior driving machine on these icy roads lolIt's not the rear wheel drive thing trust me - I drive a 2003 2.5 V6 Jag - rear wheel drive automatic. Today I watched in my mirror as a '67' plated front wheel drive Merc struggled to get away from the lights behind me It's not what you've got - but what you do with it!
Not UK, and definitely speeded up, you can tell easily from the people walking about.Still it shows people just don't know how to drive in adverse conditions.
Agreed - biggest problem is not the snow itself, but drivers who don't know how to "drive" in it.We have the perfect storm of people who drive too fast, and too close, for the conditions, but EQUALLY, the people who are too timid and drive too slowly for the conditions. I've seen countless "drivers" going down a dip in the road (on a straight road) and braking in snow, then not having enough momentum to get up the other (up) side of the dip and then spinning the wheels because they start to slow down.Most of the issues where I live (at the bottom of a hill) are people who approach the hill too slowly, with no momentum and then wonder why they can't get up the hill. So far, I've never gotten stuck - I approach with a decent speed and then run up on minimal throttle/accelerator, with basically no wheelspin.On the motorway, I'm as careful as the next driver - some might say I drive too fast (but I don't) but I always leave enough room between myself and the Vehicle ahead. I also practice smooth steering input, minimal braking and light acceleration, using the gears by matching rpms to the engines speed & my road speed - something which recent drivers seem not to be taught about. Both our sons were "taught" that it's more fuel efficient to depress the clutch and use the brakes to lose speed (especially a low speeds), which goes against everything I was taught about accelerator control - apparently it's part of the "environmentally friendly" approach to driving that's taught these days.The Safety crowd and their "slower is better" mantra have won the day and are preventing newer drivers from learning to use, and using, APPROPRIATE speed (neither too fast, nor too slow). - hence likely causing more accid nuts than they prevent !!!!
[It seems new drivers are now being taught not to change down and use the braking effect of the engine to slow down, but to dip the clutch and slow to a stop using breaks alone,