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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: deeteefifty on 11 September 2018, 05:33:18 pm
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This'll be a standard pub quiz question. Can anyone identify the makers of these exhausts. There is a standard silencer on and it's blowing a bit, the previous owner put some exhaust wrap around the silencer front pipe section for the MOT. If I need to get a new silencer I'd prefer to match it to the front pipes if there's no decent original Yamaha ones around.
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could be motad as they are not black widow or delkavic or lextec as their is no webbing at the collector
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Their not Motad, as there's no balance pipes between the down pipes. Older Black widows didn't have springs at the collector but new ones do so my guess is Black widow.
As far as I'am aware all aftermarket end cans with the correct link pipe should slide onto your aftermarket down pipes.
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Thanks daviee and bandit, I'm going cross eyed looking for same type
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They look the same as mine, but i have no idea what they are either :lol
As said though, it's mainly about the link pipe, not all end cans have the same diameter. I have a Quill and a Moto GP can that need different size link pipes to fit the downpipes.
http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,8580.25.html (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,8580.25.html)
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TBH, all downpipes will fit. They are all designed to replace the original downpipes using the standard can.
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They could be the original pipes. They are not Delkevic.
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They could be the original pipes. They are not Delkevic.
Weren't all original pipes black?
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Maybe. I thought the last ones were unpainted stainless but may be wrong. Given the last ones are over 15 years old now it is unlikely to be original.
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Thanks darrsi and bbrown1664. The pipes are all welded with no separate sections, I'll give them a proper clean up to see if there are any faded markings. The outlet diameter is 45mm and they're in sound condition, if the silencer is beyond repair at least I have the outlet size to go off for replacement. The combination of the pipes and silencer has the engine running nice and smooth, very quiet (maybe a bit too quiet) but I wouldn't want to upset the balance for a bit noise.
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deeteefifty, changing the silencer & link pipe won't effect balance only new down pipes will, as for the noise just make sure you by a road legal one with a removable baffle (db eater) which when removed can alter the noise level. (http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/smile.gif)
https://www.blackwidowexhausts.co.uk/fzs-600-304-c.asp (https://www.blackwidowexhausts.co.uk/fzs-600-304-c.asp)
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Ta bandit, and for the link too, their site is giving me silencer overload. :eek
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Ta bandit, and for the link too, their site is giving me silencer overload. :eek
Just remember the shorter the silencer the noisier it will be,more so with the baffle removed, if you like the sound of the standard one get one of about the same length/diameter & when you remove the baffle it won't be to loud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdHxwy6Adt8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdHxwy6Adt8)
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Ta bandit, and for the link too, their site is giving me silencer overload. :eek
Just remember the shorter the silencer the noisier it will be,more so with the baffle removed, if you like the sound of the standard one get one of about the same length/diameter & when you remove the baffle it won't be to loud.
My Moto GP end can is noisy as feck, but legal with the baffle in.
Take the baffle out and the bike runs poorly, and will wake the dead.
I much prefer the subtle rumble of the Quill, but it still has a lovely roar when you give the bike some welly.
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I stuck a Pipe Werx stainless, standard length, on my Foxeye and it looks & sounds superb and that's with the baffle in.
http://www.pipewerx.com/ (http://www.pipewerx.com/)
Good quality product at a fair price.
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Thanks everyone. I got a reply from Black widow exhausts. They said it's not one of theirs as they've always had a seperate link pipe, mine doesn't. A bit more cleaning uncovered what looks like black paint (but could be burnt on oil/muck). Maybe they are originals that have been unblacked🤔
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Thanks everyone. I got a reply from Black widow exhausts. They said it's not one of theirs as they've always had a seperate link pipe, mine doesn't. A bit more cleaning uncovered what looks like black paint (but could be burnt on oil/muck). Maybe they are originals that have been unblacked🤔
No, originals are mild steel, not stainless.
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And originals had the balance pipes between downpipes.
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Maybe. I thought the last ones were unpainted stainless but may be wrong. Given the last ones are over 15 years old now it is unlikely to be original.
Stainless painted black on the Foxeyes.
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Maybe. I thought the last ones were unpainted stainless but may be wrong. Given the last ones are over 15 years old now it is unlikely to be original.
Stainless painted black on the Foxeyes.
Nope steel painted on foxeyes same as boxeye, only stainless on FZ6.
deeteefifty, can you post a picture of the exhaust side view, end can (silencer) to where the pipe goes under the frame, have not seen aftermarket set that doesn't need a link pipe only original which they ain't.
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As requested bandit.
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As requested bandit.
Still no wiser on the the down pipes & black widow are talking out of their a**e , because when you remove the jubilee style black clamp on the original & remove the silencer the link pipe then attaches to that end without the gauze gasket inside & the other connects to the silencer.
Look at this picture, where the black downpipes end is where the link pipe connects & then connects to the silencer the original silencer comes with the link pipe & silencer as one piece, hope this helps.
https://www.gumtree.com/p/yamaha-motorbikes/yamaha-fazer-600-1999-t-reg-not-bandit-hornet-streetfighter-cheap-bike/1274646165 (https://www.gumtree.com/p/yamaha-motorbikes/yamaha-fazer-600-1999-t-reg-not-bandit-hornet-streetfighter-cheap-bike/1274646165)
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Maybe. I thought the last ones were unpainted stainless but may be wrong. Given the last ones are over 15 years old now it is unlikely to be original.
Stainless painted black on the Foxeyes.
Nope steel painted on foxeyes same as boxeye, only stainless on FZ6.
I read it ages ago here in this Bennetts buyers guide in the 'Any Updates?' section. Must be bad info.
https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/bikes/yamaha/yamaha-fzs600-fazer-1998-2003-buyers-guide (https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/bikes/yamaha/yamaha-fzs600-fazer-1998-2003-buyers-guide)
My original downpipes are still like new with all the factory paint still attached.
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Looks like Lextex Stainless Downpipes
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Thanks again everyone. Unfazed it does look close to a Lextek.
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The original downpipes for 98 & 03 share the same part number & same price for new ones, £1,204.68 if Yamaha had later made them in stainless the price would have been nearly half the price of the bike new. (http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/cheesy.gif)
deeteefifty, hope that sorted your queries & you get a new silencer & link pipe sorted soon.
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EEK! How much😮
Thanks again, there's an astonishing amount of shared knowledge on here from you chaps. I'll update my progress when done.
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The original downpipes for 98 & 03 share the same part number & same price for new ones, £1,204.68 if Yamaha had later made them in stainless the price would have been nearly half the price of the bike new. ([url]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/cheesy.gif[/url])
deeteefifty, hope that sorted your queries & you get a new silencer & link pipe sorted soon.
Hmmm, 2002 details have chucked up something interesting.
http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?topic=34.0 (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?topic=34.0)
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Not sure all info is correct,
Exhaust angle lowered to accommodate longer pillion pegs?
Deep Reddish Yellow Cocktail wasn't available in the u.k in 98 only red or black, when I bought mine in 98 a customer paid the dealer to have one sprayed yellow.
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A magnet sticks to my down pipes.
That would confirm that they're plain steel under the paint wouldn't it?.
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Not sure all info is correct,
Exhaust angle lowered to accommodate longer pillion pegs?
Deep Reddish Yellow Cocktail wasn't available in the u.k in 98 only red or black, when I bought mine in 98 a customer paid the dealer to have one sprayed yellow.
Some of these websites are bad for that.
There's a couple that don't give the choice of it being black, and another site doesn't list it as a 2000 SP model which it blatantly is, if i use the reg number. Says it's a 98 i think.
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YamFazFan, lower grade stainless can be magnetic, try some knives and forks, probably should be classed as rust resistant.
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My 03 fazer has stainless downpipes painted black from new. Think it was only last year 03 they did this
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YamFazFan, lower grade stainless can be magnetic, try some knives and forks, probably should be classed as rust resistant.
Thats right about the lower grade stainless sticking to a magnet but sometimes you can tell with a magnet that although it sticks, it is not so strong a stick/grab as plain steel is. Try a definite plain steel straight after to see if there is a difference.
To prove about some stainless being magnet, try some cheap kitchen sinks and you may find that the bowl won't stick but the drainer does.
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Just tried the sink/drainer and a magnet won't stick to any part, but it does grip every piece of cutlery I've tried in the drawer that's marked 'Stainless Steel'.
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:lol
Stainless is heavier than mild steel too. You can go about with a set of scales if it helps.
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Good job Gordon Ramsey isn't due round our kitchen. Can't see the cutlery passing his quality control :lol