yes!!!!.....happy birthday red...[/color ....leg over tonight then matey?...ps, can i sit on ya shoulders and take pics for ade?
at last back on my 600 fazer problem.....CRH has helped me out with a long list of possible solutions after quizing a mechanic friend....so my thanks go to both of you ......top of the list....BENT VALVE.....so ive done another compression test cylinder 1...................140 psi cylinder 2.....................85 psi cylinder 3.....................61 psi cylinder 4...................143 psithese are average figures as i did the test four times,should be about 160/170 psi ,with 40,000 miles on the clock i was not expecting top pressure, within 10% and i would of been happy,the low readings on cyl 2 + 3 has got me thinking i then disconnected the plug caps in turn to see what these figures mead in real terms.... disconnect plug lead no 1...............little bit flat but idles disconnect plug lead no 2...............flat but wont idle disconnect plug lead no 3...............little bit flat but idles disconnect plug lead no 4...............little bit flat but idles disconnect plug leads 2 + 3............flat but just about idles disconnect plug leads 1 +4.............wont start so iam now thinking HEAD GASKET blown between cylinders 2 and 3 the bike runs fine between 4/8000rpm so parhaps the pressure of the 2 cylinders is masking the damaged gasket at mid range but at higher rpm the pressure is too great and the stutter returns ......sounds a bit mad...but could be [size=78%] i might take the head off and have a look,i can check the valves at the same time and regrind the seats to make it worth while [/size]
Quote from: red98 on 12 August 2012, 03:06:52 pmat last back on my 600 fazer problem.....CRH has helped me out with a long list of possible solutions after quizing a mechanic friend....so my thanks go to both of you ......top of the list....BENT VALVE.....so ive done another compression test cylinder 1...................140 psi cylinder 2.....................85 psi cylinder 3.....................61 psi cylinder 4...................143 psithese are average figures as i did the test four times,should be about 160/170 psi ,with 40,000 miles on the clock i was not expecting top pressure, within 10% and i would of been happy,the low readings on cyl 2 + 3 has got me thinking i then disconnected the plug caps in turn to see what these figures mead in real terms.... disconnect plug lead no 1...............little bit flat but idles disconnect plug lead no 2...............flat but wont idle disconnect plug lead no 3...............little bit flat but idles disconnect plug lead no 4...............little bit flat but idles disconnect plug leads 2 + 3............flat but just about idles disconnect plug leads 1 +4.............wont start so iam now thinking HEAD GASKET blown between cylinders 2 and 3 the bike runs fine between 4/8000rpm so parhaps the pressure of the 2 cylinders is masking the damaged gasket at mid range but at higher rpm the pressure is too great and the stutter returns ......sounds a bit mad...but could be [size=78%] i might take the head off and have a look,i can check the valves at the same time and regrind the seats to make it worth while [/size]good afternoon chaps.........working today but had extended lunch break and done another compression test 1 2 3 4results before valve re-grind 140 85 61 143results after valve re-grind 137 134 132 136happy with those results shame i lost a few psi`s on 1 and 4 but figures very close now still waiting for air filter ,probs be mon or tues now
them readings are pretty good matey!!...nice and even!...right?..told paul you going to use a colour tune?..and he said if you do use one?..(he wouldnt by the way)....to err on the side of rich?..as the fazer motor is designed to run with a richer mixture than most!! he also says that using the colour they show tends to make bike engines run very weak?...and you may experience pinking when you give it some?...he said tend to aim for blue to orange , more the latter!!...specialy as your about to fit a k&N...
yes very wierd why they should be that far out int it?....still like you previously said?..it ran fine for all those years so???????????...defo make a diffrence now you done valves!!...cant wait till you get that fkn filter in it?..there must be hundreds of us on here wanting a result!!!...just think red?..no more stutters?...what the fuck you gonna do with yourself? ....
Quote from: CRH on 08 September 2012, 10:05:56 pmyes very wierd why they should be that far out int it?....still like you previously said?..it ran fine for all those years so???????????...defo make a diffrence now you done valves!!...cant wait till you get that fkn filter in it?..there must be hundreds of us on here wanting a result!!!...just think red?..no more stutters?...what the fuck you gonna do with yourself? ....same as me.......bike had k+n and aftermarket can fitted and ran sweet as a nut for over two years.....then literally overnight developed the dreaded stutter. finally cured ( touch wood ) with some re-jetting !!! whats that all about. crazy shit
its a crazy world .....would be very frustrating when i fix the stutter but dont know the reason ......bit like you re-jetting ade .........think iam getting close now
Quote from: red98 on 08 September 2012, 10:24:53 pmits a crazy world .....would be very frustrating when i fix the stutter but dont know the reason ......bit like you re-jetting ade .........think iam getting close now fixed it for you mate..........keep at it pal...........we`ll all keep throwing any old sh&te on the table until its running right for ya........as you were Clive !
Quote from: ade the blade on 08 September 2012, 10:33:40 pmQuote from: red98 on 08 September 2012, 10:24:53 pmits a crazy world .....would be very frustrating when i fix the stutter but dont know the reason ......bit like you re-jetting ade .........think iam getting close now fixed it for you mate..........keep at it pal...........we`ll all keep throwing any old sh&te on the table until its running right for ya........as you were Clive ! ......Sheep shagger ....
you still not convinced its sorted then ade?
Quote from: Dead Eye on 06 September 2012, 11:50:03 pmYou know, a pub meet might not be a bad idea, should be a good laugh - probably have to do it somewhere quiet and out of the way so as to reduce the likelihood of the locals calling the authorities to throw some of you lot in the looney bin ... you know who you are...as long as it doesn`t have low beams............these slingbacks jack me up at least 6" oh just noticed...HAPPY BURFDAY RED didn`t realise you had a good 30 yrs on me !
You know, a pub meet might not be a bad idea, should be a good laugh - probably have to do it somewhere quiet and out of the way so as to reduce the likelihood of the locals calling the authorities to throw some of you lot in the looney bin ... you know who you are...
ADE?...if red dont kick the fkr?....CAN I PLEASE???????
Quote from: ade the blade on 07 September 2012, 01:41:08 pmQuote from: Dead Eye on 06 September 2012, 11:50:03 pmYou know, a pub meet might not be a bad idea, should be a good laugh - probably have to do it somewhere quiet and out of the way so as to reduce the likelihood of the locals calling the authorities to throw some of you lot in the looney bin ... you know who you are...as long as it doesn`t have low beams............these slingbacks jack me up at least 6" oh just noticed...HAPPY BURFDAY RED didn`t realise you had a good 30 yrs on me !Happy belated Birthday :P Did I miss the cake?Is it also rude to point out that you are in fact 28 years older than me - I like being the young one ^^
Quote from: Dead Eye on 08 September 2012, 11:50:52 pmQuote from: ade the blade on 07 September 2012, 01:41:08 pmQuote from: Dead Eye on 06 September 2012, 11:50:03 pmYou know, a pub meet might not be a bad idea, should be a good laugh - probably have to do it somewhere quiet and out of the way so as to reduce the likelihood of the locals calling the authorities to throw some of you lot in the looney bin ... you know who you are...as long as it doesn`t have low beams............these slingbacks jack me up at least 6" oh just noticed...HAPPY BURFDAY RED didn`t realise you had a good 30 yrs on me !Happy belated Birthday :P Did I miss the cake?Is it also rude to point out that you are in fact 28 years older than me - I like being the young one ^^quite right mate......us sub-30 yr olds must stick together. oh and yes the cake was a bit on the chewy side........sure it had a jam and air filter filling
afternoon all you young foccrs .....iam i the oldest foccer in town ? k+n filter arrived yesterday and looks fantastic will fit tonight and have a play with the colour tune in the meantime ,all you foccers out there start thinking about what iam going to do next if this fails, as i think iam now out of ideas
Quote from: red98 on 11 September 2012, 03:23:23 pmafternoon all you young foccrs .....iam i the oldest foccer in town ? k+n filter arrived yesterday and looks fantastic will fit tonight and have a play with the colour tune in the meantime ,all you foccers out there start thinking about what iam going to do next if this fails, as i think iam now out of ideas .....buy a ..GOOD one of me boyfriend! ....dont worry ime sure it will be fine!!!...got to prove ATB wrong else never live it down ......ps... suzuki bandits are cheap? ...and remember this?...you only as old as you look!!