Price opinions?

[Dudeofrude]

So I've decided I'm ready to move on from my Fz1n 😕. I've had it nearly 5 years now and although it's great in many ways I'm just ready so something that's a lot less showy and with slightly more practicality. Anyway I've been in touch with a few dealers about part ex deal but they are all coming back with ridiculous low ball offers (as expected) so I'm think of selling privately instead I'm just not sure on what it's going to be worth?

I think realistically thinking i would want it to go for £3500? I see some go for much more but also newer ones go for less. My main problem is the amount of sorted extra bits on it but I know that's only important to somebody looking for this particular set up. I'll list everything to do with it here and see what you all think

Yamaha FZ1-N, 2007, 16700 miles


Bodywork:

• 3 Keys
• Abarth Assetto Corse Paint Job  - w/colour matched Aftermarket Bellypan.
• Genuine Yamaha LED indicators
• Carbon fibre rear hugger
• Rear Seat Cowl
• LED Tail Light with built in Indicators

Chassis:

• Rizoma Risers, Drag bars, Lux Grips & Bar ends
• Pazzo Levers
• Wezmoto Stainless Braided hoses
• Hyperpro Steering Damper
• Abarth Scorpion Radiator Grill
• Lars Airbox Mod
• Carbon Fibre Heel Plates
• Aftermarket Brake Discs (I forget the brand)
• Hyperpro Progressive Spring fitted to original rear shock
• Resprung and recently serviced front forks
• Gold VXM heavy duty DID chain with black stainless rear sprocket
• 16T (-1) Silent JT front sprocket
• Gilles gold chain adjusters

Engine:

• Power commander 3 with custom map
• Piper X air filter
• De-catted headers/downpipe
• Mivv Gp Carbon endcan
• O2 sensor eliminator
• Exup servo eliminator
• Updated Rotor and Stator

I think that's about everything 🙈😅 and like I say I know the vast majority of that will not count for anything with a dealer🙄. But what do we think? Am I being realistic at £3.5k ?


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[Gnasher]

Sorry to say this mate but you're discovering what many others have before you and didn't realise.   The more you change/bling up a bike from standard the less it's worth. 

The biggest depreciation element is colour/paint to bodywork, tank, frame, wheels, coloured break lines etc, then comes anything that's non standard and isn't a direct replacement, screens, exhausts, end cans etc.  Things that are good but don't add value like suspension up grades, yes it's an Ohlins shock or Ktech front revalve/cartridge but the bike must have suspension, the fact it's now fitted with 3k worth of AM won't add 3k to the bike.  The other big blind hole is tuning, PC, Power plus etc, they don't add value.   

The colour of yours appeals to you and possibly to some others, but not the masses, so it could potentially sit in their showroom for months even years! 

I always tell my customers to keep all standard parts and avoid colour changes.  If they really want to change the colour get a second set of body work/tank and change that, keeping the originals.  Come sell on time put the bike back to standard and sell off the painted parts for crash repairs etc. 

Racers have been doing just that for years

Put it back standard as far as you can, if you want a trade in.   You'd be better off trying to find the other person via a private sale, who likes/wants the colour.

What you thinking of going on to?     

[b1k3rdude]

You would easily get £3.5k for a stock bike, let alone all the accessories. The bike as is imho is a £4k+ bike all day long. Due to the pandemic bike prices specially on the FZ1 are much higher than they should be. Look at the 15k mileage price point on the following page -

- https://www.thebikemarket.co.uk/yamaha/fz-fazer/fz1

So if you have any of the original stock items (like Gnasher suggested) I would personally put those back on and sell all the accessories separately. I say this as a lot of the items you have put on there are worth hard cash  -

Bodywork:

• Carbon fibre rear hugger

Chassis:

• Rizoma Risers, Drag bars, Lux Grips & Bar ends
• Pazzo Levers
• Abarth Scorpion Radiator Grill
• Carbon Fibre Heel Plates
• Gilles gold chain adjusters

Engine:

• Power commander 3 with custom map
• Mivv Gp Carbon endcan
• O2 sensor eliminator
• Exup servo eliminator
• Updated Rotor and Stator

All of the above are sought after items, eg PowerCommander.

[Dudeofrude]

Sorry to say this mate but you're discovering what many others have before you and didn't realise.   The more you change/bling up a bike from standard the less it's worth. 

The biggest depreciation element is colour/paint to bodywork, tank, frame, wheels, coloured break lines etc, then comes anything that's non standard and isn't a direct replacement, screens, exhausts, end cans etc.  Things that are good but don't add value like suspension up grades, yes it's an Ohlins shock or Ktech front revalve/cartridge but the bike must have suspension, the fact it's now fitted with 3k worth of AM won't add 3k to the bike.  The other big blind hole is tuning, PC, Power plus etc, they don't add value.   

The colour of yours appeals to you and possibly to some others, but not the masses, so it could potentially sit in their showroom for months even years! 

I always tell my customers to keep all standard parts and avoid colour changes.  If they really want to change the colour get a second set of body work/tank and change that, keeping the originals.  Come sell on time put the bike back to standard and sell off the painted parts for crash repairs etc. 

Racers have been doing just that for years

Put it back standard as far as you can, if you want a trade in.   You'd be better off trying to find the other person via a private sale, who likes/wants the colour.

What you thinking of going on to?   

Yeah I'm aware that's the case and tbh I'm not bothered by it, I knew I woukdnt keep it for life and I knew every penny spent would be more or less going down the drain in the long run BUT I enjoyed it for what it was along the way. As stupid as it sounds I enjoyed the fact it stands out and at meets/shows it would always get a lot of attention.
Now I'm getting past all that and want something that actually going to suit my needs a little more. Mainly something with heated grips and a tank range of more than 2 miles 🤣

As for my next bike I'm about 80% sure I want a Kawasaki z1000sx. It seems to tick all the boxes. It's got a decent amount of usable power, wind protection, the ability to attach panniers that don't look too ugly. There are other added bonuses too like rider modes, ABS etc etc that I'm not fussed about but it's not a bad thing to have.
It will also be nice to go back to a bike that is 'standard', Save a few tweaks like heated grips and endcans etc

Thats my No.1 atm (and the bike I'm trying to part ex toward)
But other options in my price range/taste are

Versys 1000
MT-09 Tracer
VFR1200 (with the semi auto gearbox)
BMW S1000R
Aprilia Tuono (dream bike but no local dealer support 😕)

There is also a stunning MV Augusta Brutale 800rr for sale near me that I have been drooling over but I don't think it's enough of a different bike to the FZ1 to warrant buying it haha

But anyway back to the title.... do you think £3500 is a fair price for mine if sold privately?

[Dudeofrude]

You would easily get £3.5k for a stock bike, let alone all the accessories. The bike as is imho is a £4k+ bike all day long. Due to the pandemic bike prices specially on the FZ1 are much higher than they should be. Look at the 15k mileage price point on the following page -

- https://www.thebikemarket.co.uk/yamaha/fz-fazer/fz1

So if you have any of the original stock items (like Gnasher suggested) I would personally put those back on and sell all the accessories separately. I say this as a lot of the items you have put on there are worth hard cash  -

Bodywork:

• Carbon fibre rear hugger

Chassis:

• Rizoma Risers, Drag bars, Lux Grips & Bar ends
• Pazzo Levers
• Abarth Scorpion Radiator Grill
• Carbon Fibre Heel Plates
• Gilles gold chain adjusters

Engine:

• Power commander 3 with custom map
• Mivv Gp Carbon endcan
• O2 sensor eliminator
• Exup servo eliminator
• Updated Rotor and Stator

All of the above are sought after items, eg PowerCommander.

Sorry you must have replied while I was writing my response to Gnasher haha

Thanks for the link, that's the kind of thing I was trying to find.
As for the extras, sadly I don't have much of the original stuff anymore. If I part ex it to a dealer then I will take off as much as I can to sell but if I sell privately I would just leave it all on as part of the price. I did consider removing things like the power commander but I feel that's slightly dishonest to the next owner as the bike would run like shit given the other mods to the air and exhaust system etc
At least if it went to a dealer the next owner would be able to take that up with them haha

[b1k3rdude]

• Versys 1000
• MT-09 Tracer
• VFR1200 (with the semi auto gearbox)
• BMW S1000R
• Aprilia Tuono (dream bike but no local dealer support 😕)
• There is also a stunning MV Augusta Brutale 800rr

But anyway back to the title.... do you think £3500 is a fair price for mine if sold privately?

• Very nice bike (I test rode one), but this uses the same engine as the SX so to avoid gearbox issue, go for 2017 or newer. The screen is awesome, I was able to ride with the visor up the whole time. Also you will need legs longer than 31" (me) as its a stupid tall bike.
• Also a nice bike, and like the Versys it has a center stand. Suspension would need tweaking as I had it run wide in corners (but I had only ridden it for 1hr)
• I considered this also, but the maintenance costs for it and ridiculous and it has a short tank range.
• no idea on this one, or the Tuono or the Brutale - they ALL look stupid expensive (10k+)

lastly the price, 3.5 all day long, but I would suggest £4k atm due to the increased prices and all that bling. I say this because I paid £3650 for a 2007 with 35k that has some accessories on it back in Dec 2020.

[Dudeofrude]

• Versys 1000
• MT-09 Tracer
• VFR1200 (with the semi auto gearbox)
• BMW S1000R
• Aprilia Tuono (dream bike but no local dealer support 😕)
• There is also a stunning MV Augusta Brutale 800rr

But anyway back to the title.... do you think £3500 is a fair price for mine if sold privately?

• Very nice bike (I test rode one), but this uses the same engine as the SX so to avoid gearbox issue, go for 2017 or newer. The screen is awesome, I was able to ride with the visor up the whole time. Also you will need legs longer than 31" (me) as its a stupid tall bike.
• Also a nice bike, and like the Versys it has a center stand. Suspension would need tweaking as I had it run wide in corners (but I had only ridden it for 1hr)
• I considered this also, but the maintenance costs for it and ridiculous and it has a short tank range.
• no idea on this one, or the Tuono or the Brutale - they ALL look stupid expensive (10k+)

lastly the price, 3.5 all day long, but I would suggest £4k atm due to the increased prices and all that bling. I say this because I paid £3650 for a 2007 with 35k that has some accessories on it back in Dec 2020.

Thanks for the input 👍🏻

Most I've been offered by a dealer so far is £2850 off a £6500 Z1000sx. If they would budge to £3.5k I'd go for it but will have to wait and see

[b1k3rdude]

Most I've been offered by a dealer so far is £2850 off a £6500 Z1000sx. If they would budge to £3.5k I'd go for it but will have to wait and see

Regarding the SX, I test one of those also, loved it (the one I rode had a non-std seat and better than OEM tyres on it). And again I suggest 2017 or newer only due to gearbox issue and the SX has no center-stand (thats where the Versys beats it)

[albuquerqueturkey]

I picked my tidy low mileage 2008 up last spring for £3500, i got the seller down from £4k so I think you are in the right ballpark.


A few years ago (pre divorce) it was a toss up between a tracer and tiger sport 1050. I went for the tiger sport and loved it, took me from Banbury to Marseille in two days. Would have another no problem. I didn't ride the tracer but thought it seemed a bit small in the flesh.

[Dudeofrude]

Well they've upped it to £2950 which I suppose is not too bad for a dealer 🤔 they also have a Z1000sx in Red (which is soooo much nicer than green haha) so decisions decisions (+ negotiations with the wife 🙈)