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Title: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: Jbizzle on 21 September 2017, 01:27:37 pm
Hi all,

Does anyone know of any scrap yards in the UK that specialise in bikes? Preferably the old school type, that let you wander round and have a look at the stock, rather than call up and ask for a specific part/bike.

These days health and safety might have put a stop to it? 

Any input welcome

Cheers,

James
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: BBROWN1664 on 21 September 2017, 03:12:09 pm
There are loads of bike breakers around but I have never seen one where you could wander around unless you count auto-jumbles :pokefun
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: tommyardin on 21 September 2017, 03:29:12 pm
Hi all,

Does anyone know of any scrap yards in the UK that specialise in bikes? Preferably the old school type, that let you wander round and have a look at the stock, rather than call up and ask for a specific part/bike.

These days health and safety might have put a stop to it? 

Any input welcome

Cheers,

James


The days of the wander around scrappies are long gone, no more climbing over cars stacked 3 high to get the window winder handle from that Morris Mariner or dynamo from the Austin Allegro.
Those days you could keep looking until you found the one in best condition, now you have what your given.
Health & Safety huh! I wonder how many people died in scrappies with cars falling on them.  :eek


Grumpy old foccer.
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: F4celess on 21 September 2017, 03:51:54 pm

The days of the wander around scrappies are long gone, no more climbing over cars stacked 3 high to get the window winder handle from that Morris Mariner or dynamo from the Austin Allegro.

...

Grumpy old foccer.

Scrapheap Challenge came to mind reading this (perhaps I have a vivid imagination). Even that just runs repeats nowadays, probably no longer run due to H&S!  :rolleyes
Mmmmm, Lisa Rogers........................................ just a little eye candy, amongst all those grease monkeys!  :lol
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: Disorderlypunk on 21 September 2017, 04:13:18 pm
we still have one or two up my way that allow you to go a wandering (couple of years since last been)
but i did know the lads who worked there so that might have helped me in that respect
-there is nothing like being covered in grease and stopping for a brew and a fag sitting in the back of a limo (im not joking this really happened)


i have never seen anything in the uk for bikes im guessing you mean like in grease 2 (in infamous breakers yard)
it still happens in america where land is cheap but over here bike breakers have to work differently part H+S and part high overheads that need covered
- i think berties bike breakers in chorley you can have a walk around and see what is waiting to be broken up.
best bet is just find one near by and go have a look what they have in
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: fazersharp on 21 September 2017, 04:36:33 pm
Used to love that in the scrappies looking for parts on scrapped cars that wre better than the one I was driving, climbing stacked 3-4 high. Near me there was a whole line of them divided each by a wall, one time we were merrily climbing along the top and without knowing had passed into another yard and down to the ground level but that yard was shut and so the Rottweiler was out loose, luckily we could climb cars quicker than he could
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: darrsi on 21 September 2017, 05:20:15 pm
Plenty of free breakers online to ask for whatever you need, just make sure you say you only want replies by email or every bugger phones you up.
Is there something specific you need, maybe people on here could help?
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: mtread on 21 September 2017, 07:45:45 pm
I remember climbing up to a scrapped Allegro to take off a door handle. Breaking it. Quietly checking nobody had noticed, and moving on to the next scrapped Allegro. Those were the days :-)
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: tommyardin on 21 September 2017, 08:55:07 pm
I remember climbing up to a scrapped Allegro to take off a door handle. Breaking it. Quietly checking nobody had noticed, and moving on to the next scrapped Allegro. Those were the days :-)


Ha ha! been there and also walking off with a pocket full of bulbs, bulb holders and fuses and any other small items that could be concealed easily.   
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: slappy on 21 September 2017, 10:45:07 pm
I remember climbing up to a scrapped Allegro to take off a door handle. Breaking it. Quietly checking nobody had noticed, and moving on to the next scrapped Allegro. Those were the days :-)


Ha ha! been there and also walking off with a pocket full of bulbs, bulb holders and fuses and any other small items that could be concealed easily.


I always used to open the boot and have a rummage, any tools I found used to go in my pockets.
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: Disorderlypunk on 21 September 2017, 11:45:22 pm
we all used to fill our pockets with those little bits and declare the large bits (look after the pennies and the pounds can go on beer)
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: Jbizzle on 22 September 2017, 09:49:04 am
Thanks all!  Nice bit of nostalgia.



It was a long shot these days, i was remembering the days of 20 years ago, as a kid going round the scrappies with my dad, bag of tools and a pocket full of badges i collected off bonnets!


Shame, but as pointed out above, climbing over cars stacked 3 high and swaying in the wind probably wasn't all that safe in hindsight.


I was really looking for a complete USD front end, thinking it would make a great winter project, for me and my old man to get stiuck into.


Has anyone on here has collected all the parts then come to there senses and thought better of it???


Cheers,


James







Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: BBROWN1664 on 22 September 2017, 10:25:30 am
My local car scrap yard still stacks them two high in places but all the expensive, useful parts are removed by their guys before the car reaches the yard.
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: F4celess on 22 September 2017, 10:53:34 am
But those " good ol' days " were before the internet became mainstream. The scrapyards were dependant on that physical presence, where the punter had to rummage around to find what they wanted.

These days, the scrapyard doesn't even need to open it's doors. They can strip, then shift all their wares online (ebay / amazon / gumtree etc).

This actually suits us much better too! We no longer have to spend our Sundays driving from one yard to the next, getting our hands dirty, to find that one gem we were looking for (possibly coming home empty handed). We can compare MANY parts online (on the sites mentioned), then bid to buy what suits us best - pick and choose. It's become a buyers market.
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: Jbizzle on 22 September 2017, 11:04:57 am

You make a fair point F4celess, but it doesn't half take the fun out of it!

But those " good ol' days " were before the internet became mainstream. The scrapyards were dependant on that physical presence, where the punter had to rummage around to find what they wanted.

These days, the scrapyard doesn't even need to open it's doors. They can strip, then shift all their wares online (ebay / amazon / gumtree etc).

This actually suits us much better too! We no longer have to spend our Sundays driving from one yard to the next, getting our hands dirty, to find that one gem we were looking for (possibly coming home empty handed). We can compare MANY parts online (on the sites mentioned), then bid to buy what suits us best - pick and choose. It's become a buyers market.
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: F4celess on 22 September 2017, 11:33:09 am

You make a fair point F4celess, but it doesn't half take the fun out of it!


Do totally agree with this too.

Just like in those days, as kids, we'd be out on the streets with our friends. On our bikes / playing football / making swings&camps in the woods, all day long.
Walk back in the door when it started getting dark....

These days, that just doesn't happen. Times have changed.  :rolleyes
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: tommyardin on 22 September 2017, 12:00:40 pm
Thanks all!  Nice bit of nostalgia.



It was a long shot these days, i was remembering the days of 20 years ago, as a kid going round the scrappies with my dad, bag of tools and a pocket full of badges i collected off bonnets!


Shame, but as pointed out above, climbing over cars stacked 3 high and swaying in the wind probably wasn't all that safe in hindsight.


I was really looking for a complete USD front end, thinking it would make a great winter project, for me and my old man to get stiuck into.


Has anyone on here has collected all the parts then come to there senses and thought better of it???


Cheers,


James


We used to get incomplete USD front ends, back ends and even some on their sides. :lol but no motorcycle parts
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: taylor on 22 September 2017, 05:00:41 pm

a lot of the problem was the oil , diesel , petrol, brake fluid etc,  contamamating the ground.

Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: HarryHornby on 22 September 2017, 06:49:53 pm
Our local scrappys still let you look around.  I went to one the other day looking for a motor for my driver's door electric window, there I was balanced 3 cars high taking a door apart only for it to be the wrong motor, turns out there is a difference between and 3 and 5 door motor for a Ford Fiesta, next came the biggest stroke of luck ever.....


We had been told the car I looked at was the only Mk6 fiesta, then as we were leaving I saw a 3 door (again 3 cars up).  I climbed up, opened the door and it had been totally stripped, my heart sank, then I looked in the driver's footwell and there it was, a motor, nothing else, just the motor I needed!  What's the chances?  £20....... bargain!


It's on the car and works perfectly, love a scrappy!
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: F4celess on 22 September 2017, 10:12:58 pm
Our local scrappys still let you look around.  I went to one the other day looking for a motor for my driver's door electric window, there I was balanced 3 cars high taking a door apart only for it to be the wrong motor, turns out there is a difference between and 3 and 5 door motor for a Ford Fiesta, next came the biggest stroke of luck ever.....


We had been told the car I looked at was the only Mk6 fiesta, then as we were leaving I saw a 3 door (again 3 cars up).  I climbed up, opened the door and it had been totally stripped, my heart sank, then I looked in the driver's footwell and there it was, a motor, nothing else, just the motor I needed!  What's the chances?  £20....... bargain!


It's on the car and works perfectly, love a scrappy!


Sounds a fairytale!
- A scrapyard that still lets you hunt around
- Finding the one part you needed, right there (while everything else was gone), extracted, on the floor.


Hopefully you bought a lottery ticket that evening too? :)
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: Robbie8666 on 25 September 2017, 02:46:01 pm
this place just down the road from me still has them stacked 2 up,
and as its only bit further on to banger racing its popular most days of the week!

but its only cars.. not seen anything for bikes for years!


http://johnorchardscrapmetal.com/end_of_life.html (http://johnorchardscrapmetal.com/end_of_life.html)

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Orchards+scrap+Yard/@50.2314527,-5.1679492,16z/data= (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Orchards+scrap+Yard/@50.2314527,-5.1679492,16z/data=)!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0xc554a8dce022e790!8m2!3d50.2313154!4d-5.1647305
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: Frosties on 25 September 2017, 04:31:42 pm
I remember climbing up to a scrapped Allegro to take off a door handle. Breaking it. Quietly checking nobody had noticed, and moving on to the next scrapped Allegro. Those were the days :-)


Ha ha! been there and also walking off with a pocket full of bulbs, bulb holders and fuses and any other small items that could be concealed easily.


I knew you were a pikey Tomski  :lol
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: Frosties on 25 September 2017, 04:35:50 pm
Not a bad scrappy round my way, cars are on racks up to 5 high - turns a blind eye to you climbing 2 cars high but forklifts higher ones down for you to work on. Still get to rummage & pillage  :thumbup


As for bike yards I've never seen a dedicated one - think it's an online search for "breaking Fazer 600" etc.
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: tommyardin on 25 September 2017, 08:18:27 pm
I remember Terry a mate of mine going into a car scrappie years ago and asking how much it would cost for a silver Ford Corsair passenger side door, the guy said 15 quid Terry said I will take it, the guys said you can't cos I do not have any in stock, but that's how much it would be.


So Terry moved onto the next scrappie at Farnborough and asked the same question and the guys said yep we got two in so you can choose, Terry picked one and the guy said that will be 35 quid.
Terry said WHAT! the scrappie on the Guildford Road said they are only 15 quid, the guy said well go buy one from him then, Terry replied he hasn't got any in stock, the guy replied funny that cos mine are only 15 quid when I don't have any in stock.         
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: Hugh Mungus on 25 September 2017, 08:34:22 pm
I remember climbing up to a scrapped Allegro to take off a door handle. Breaking it. Quietly checking nobody had noticed, and moving on to the next scrapped Allegro. Those were the days :-)

I've owned 2  Allegro's and the one thing that pleases me is the thought that the majority of them have been scraped many years ago.  I too spent many weekends at the scrappies trying to keep my heap of junk going.

There used to be a couple of bike breakers where they had bikes lined up ready for breaking.  I even bought a few to put back on the road but all those places are long gone. Best places are forums or flea Bay.
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: tommyardin on 25 September 2017, 10:52:12 pm
I remember climbing up to a scrapped Allegro to take off a door handle. Breaking it. Quietly checking nobody had noticed, and moving on to the next scrapped Allegro. Those were the days :-)

I've owned 2  Allegro's and the one thing that pleases me is the thought that the majority of them have been scraped many years ago.  I too spent many weekends at the scrappies trying to keep my heap of junk going.

There used to be a couple of bike breakers where they had bikes lined up ready for breaking.  I even bought a few to put back on the road but all those places are long gone. Best places are forums or flea Bay.


Ahh! The good old Austin All Aggro, I owned only one of them, not quite sure how anyone managed to own two of them?
Mine was the colour of baby shit, that nasty fawny beigey colour.
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: mtread on 25 September 2017, 11:55:21 pm
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Ahh! The good old Austin All Aggro, I owned only one of them, not quite sure how anyone managed to own two of them?
Mine was the colour of baby shit, that nasty fawny beigey colour.
Mine was the darker chocolate proper shit brown
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Terry replied he hasn't got any in stock, the guy replied funny that cos mine are only 15 quid when I don't have any in stock.
Tommy, that joke is as old as the hills :-)
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: tommyardin on 26 September 2017, 10:24:21 am
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Ahh! The good old Austin All Aggro, I owned only one of them, not quite sure how anyone managed to own two of them?
Mine was the colour of baby shit, that nasty fawny beigey colour.
Mine was the darker chocolate proper shit brown
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Terry replied he hasn't got any in stock, the guy replied funny that cos mine are only 15 quid when I don't have any in stock.
Tommy, that joke is as old as the hills :-)


I know, but so am I. He he.
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: BBROWN1664 on 26 September 2017, 10:48:31 am
I had all sorts of fun and games with my allegro.
The clutch release bearing needed changing. Trouble was Austin had changed the size and it needed a different release arm. Guess what - Austin had the new bearing but new release arms and no old bearings.

Trip to the scrap yard was needed pulling apart several allagros until I found the right part.
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: mtread on 26 September 2017, 11:46:08 am
My AllAgro had the 1275 A series engine, notorious for leaking exhaust valve seals. All well until you went downhill and the oil sloshed to the front of the engine and entered the cylinders. Plumes of smoke from the exhaust, which ended as soon as you got back on the flat :-)
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: Disorderlypunk on 26 September 2017, 02:31:59 pm
aah the old rubber oil seals have turned into plastic problem
thank god for the A series easy pull apart ability (cant count how many we have rebuilt)
just done same thing to pug 205 rallye, exact same problem with hardened valve stem seals
we found running stop leak can sometimes rejuvinate the rubber if not to far gone but not the best solution
classic engines easy - have flat out refused to do my mates bmw head gasket, to much work to be fun



Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: Hugh Mungus on 26 September 2017, 08:40:11 pm
Ahh! The good old Austin All Aggro, I owned only one of them, not quite sure how anyone managed to own two of them?
Mine was the colour of baby shit, that nasty fawny beigey colour.


To be fair my first All Aggro only cost me £50 with a years MOT on it. It was baby shit brown too. It only lasted about six weeks before it blew up. Went well though. 1750 sport (with square steering wheel...)


As I needed a car rather urgently I ended up buying another one as the Capri I was eyeing up had been sold 10 minutes before I got there. This time I had bought the Vanden Plas 1500 version! Oooh very posh  :rollin  It was actually a nice car. Broke down just about every week for the year I owned it. Drove me crazy with all the things that went wrong with it.


This was the last time it broke down on me. In the friggin middle of no-where with an hours walk to the nearest house with a telephone. I had it repaired and I took it straight to the auctions and got rid!
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4413/36668089403_ebddacc6c1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XSextZ)
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: mtread on 26 September 2017, 11:04:04 pm
To be fair, apart from the downhill smokescreen, my Allegro Estate was quite reliable. Got me and the kids down to Cornwall and back a couple of times. Oh, apart from when the tailgate door handle fell off, door opened, and all my supermarket shopping ended up in the road
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: Disorderlypunk on 26 September 2017, 11:33:06 pm
well OCT 554N must have been crushed as its details are no longer available with dvla
-would have gone picture hunting in the allegro owners club archives if it was still on the road
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: tommyardin on 26 September 2017, 11:47:56 pm
Ahh! The good old Austin All Aggro, I owned only one of them, not quite sure how anyone managed to own two of them?
Mine was the colour of baby shit, that nasty fawny beigey colour.


To be fair my first All Aggro only cost me £50 with a years MOT on it. It was baby shit brown too. It only lasted about six weeks before it blew up. Went well though. 1750 sport (with square steering wheel...)


As I needed a car rather urgently I ended up buying another one as the Capri I was eyeing up had been sold 10 minutes before I got there. This time I had bought the Vanden Plas 1500 version! Oooh very posh  :rollin  It was actually a nice car. Broke down just about every week for the year I owned it. Drove me crazy with all the things that went wrong with it.


This was the last time it broke down on me. In the friggin middle of no-where with an hours walk to the nearest house with a telephone. I had it repaired and I took it straight to the auctions and got rid!
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4413/36668089403_ebddacc6c1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XSextZ)


Ha ha ha!
Love the picture, I had a Morris Miner van years ago, it was my mobile tool shed when I was working away from home in a place call Shepton Mallet near Glastonbury. One Friday as I was coming home the exact same thing happened on a left hand turn (Junction) I was was only doing about 3 or 4 MPH just pulling away, one of the other guys from the site was following me so we loaded all my stuff into his van, ripped the number plates off the old Moggy thou and drove away and left it on the junction. I don't think I will hear anything about it now as that was in 1977.       
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: Hugh Mungus on 27 September 2017, 05:26:02 am
well OCT 554N must have been crushed as its details are no longer available with dvla
-would have gone picture hunting in the allegro owners club archives if it was still on the road


It was GCT554N - I can't imagine that it would still be around but you never know, some fool might have kept it going.
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: mtread on 27 September 2017, 10:17:20 am
Still better than a Morris Marina though.....
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: Dave48 on 27 September 2017, 11:06:02 am
The Morris Minor & Marina had grease nipples fitted to the upper & lower ball joints which if neglected resulted in the collapsed wheel syndrome. Presume the Allegro was the same?
And they wonder why the British car industry ended up like it did!!!
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: Hugh Mungus on 27 September 2017, 02:59:24 pm
I had a Marina too.  The Coupe version I'll have you know!
The All Aggro had a broken stub axle. As I know virtually nothing about cars this may be the same part where the grease nipples are.
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: Disorderlypunk on 27 September 2017, 04:00:00 pm
ahh was hard to read with that lowered stance lol
GCT554N was taken off the road in 1988 by the looks of it
Title: Re: UK Motorcycle Scrap Yards?
Post by: Hugh Mungus on 27 September 2017, 06:15:33 pm
ahh was hard to read with that lowered stance lol
GCT554N was taken off the road in 1988 by the looks of it


Yeah the lowering kit didn't work  ;)


Didn't last for long after I sold it then. The old memory banks are failing me but I think I sold it in 1987.