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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Snapped exhaust studs and other fun issues
« on: 06 December 2023, 02:50:04 pm »
cheers have seen induction heaters they are very useful but in this application they will case harden the stud and not directly heat the cylinder head.

Err no..............  Case hardening takes several cycles of heating and cooling, plus the carbon content of the steel is a major factor, these are low ish carbon content, basically it will do very little. The use of an induction coil is a good idea, they heat both the stud (to break the corrosion) and the head, they've never failed to work for me if they can be loosened. 

I am mechanical engineer to trade so no issue there but looking at no way in hell can drill out in place access fouls direct line if sight ie drill perfectly flat. Main issue is lack of space and workshop tooling and equipment ie oxyacetylene.

As said before depending on your skill and tools you should be able to drill them out.  I've done, well I've lost count, never as yet had to take the engine out.  Remove the rad at most remove the front end at the head stock at worst.   Drill out the broken off studs, often cheap easyouts don't work.  You need to drill out the whole stud including the thread, retap, make up or have made a threaded stud the size of the hole now in the head.  Screw a length into each hole, using bearing fit, redrill/tap the plugs, fit new studs, make sure you cooper slip the threads.  Job done.  ;)

baffles my why use mild steel in alloy head with tiny m6 threads

Its cheap. 

Yes you can run the engine all day long without the headers, but why?   I wouldn't want to be you neighbours (if you've got any) either  :lol


       

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General / Re: what did you do with your fazer today ?
« on: 05 December 2023, 09:38:42 pm »
Depending on how much you weigh, you're speed, suspension settings, tyre, pressures etc.  If you're still running a standard rear shock and fork without them being resprung and revalved for track work and you're quick.  The suspension will at points be overwhelmed, the tyre will expand due to the suspension being pushed to its limits.  Either will explain the marks.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Snapped exhaust studs and other fun issues
« on: 27 November 2023, 07:27:46 am »
Take the rad off and you should, depending on your tools and skill, be able to drill them out, retap and fit new studs.

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General / Motorcycle Live 23
« on: 20 November 2023, 02:17:56 pm »
The rip off of people at these corporate run events, just keeps getting worse.

Just to visit, not sure if there was any online pre booking for entry tickets before now, but there isn't now, you could get discount which had to be done pre 17 Nov for car parking.  Currently it's £48.95 per person for one day :eek and that just covers parking and entry! On line booking knocks off a huge £1.70 but you get slapped with a £2 online charge for entry and £10 off for parking which had to be done before 17 Nov and presumably bike parking if you can't get into free bike parking. 

Whether it was cheaper a few weeks ago I don't know?

Yes you can get free bike parking, but that's 1st come 1st served how big this is who knows plus £2 kit drop off.  Most I know go in the car save all the kit faf and buy stuff, so taking the bike isn't really an option.   

The feed back from contacts in the trade who are there, is don't bother unless you really must see a new bike that's not as yet in the showroom and can't wait until it is.  Everything else pretty much, you can see/buy/do elsewhere without paying the exertional entry and parking fee.

Don't even go there with the drink and food prices, for what is cheap low end takeaway food. 

Sadly it's all about corporate making as much money as they can.    :evil :evil :evil

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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: New battery goes flat FZ1n
« on: 04 November 2023, 02:42:02 pm »
Sounds like it is not charging. These bike are notorious for the rotor magnets falling and can cause untold damage. The rotor should be changed regardless of condition for safety. Only true way of checking it is to remove the generator cover. You just need to replace the gasket.

The above is very likely.  Simple test, but you need to start the bike, jump start it from another battery, once running check the voltage across the battery at 6500 it should be reading 14v.  Even at idle it should read around 12.8 - 13v, if it isn't there's a changing issue, possibly the magneto or the rectifier.

Is there an alarm fitted, heated grips, or any other extras?  These can fail and drain the battery in hours!

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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Coolant pipes where they enter engine.
« on: 11 October 2023, 12:04:19 pm »

@Gnasher, is there any reason why owners could not coat the bottom of these pipe galleries with grease? As it would both protect the bottoms of the pipes and all the crap that goes in there would stick to the grease etc..


You could, providing it was heat resistant enough. That said any grease/oil would act as a grit/muck trap ie stuff would stick to it.  Just regular flushing with clean water will help prevent major issues.  Its the same with most sparkplug wells grit and muck will get in there and eventhough they have drain holes to allow water to escape grit/muck can't. Periodic flushing/air blasting is the way to go, especially before removing the plugs.

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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Coolant pipes where they enter engine.
« on: 10 October 2023, 04:52:48 pm »
Picture 3 of 11


Okay, now I know what your on about.  These filling with rain (which shouldn't really happen) or washing water will not effect the bikes starting/running unlike the plug wells filling which could.  Therefore they don't need drain holes, any of the above will just evaporate as the engine warms up.   

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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Coolant pipes where they enter engine.
« on: 07 October 2023, 09:16:55 pm »
That just drains the plug recesses. There is no drain for the Coolant pipe area that I could see when checking the valves some time ago.


I'm doing all this from memory can someone give me some pictures of what we're talking about please?

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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Coolant pipes where they enter engine.
« on: 06 October 2023, 11:26:44 am »
There is a drain hole on the side of the engine and this needs cleaing with a coat hanger wire etc. In any event, once the engine gets upto temp the heat should boil off any water in the plug galleries.


 :agree ;)

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Low compression on one cylinder.
« on: 02 October 2023, 10:13:47 am »
Yes you can remove the pistons leaving the crankcase in the frame, that said and has been mentioned above your issue could well be just a sticky ring/s.

The fact you've run the bike, tested it, got low compression on 1 cylinder and I assume re started the engine after topping up the oil and got a higher readings all round.  Suggest it is/was indeed sticky rings and by running the bike has freed them all off giving you healthy readings.

I would give it a good spirited run, revving to 7, 10, etc working towards the red line in the lower gears for about half hour.  Allow it to cool and retest if the numbers hold up, you're not burning/using oil outside the spec, forget about the issue.

I would also mention, Fazers as a rule providing they've been maintained correctly, don't suffer bore/ring issues, if anything it's more likely to be a leaking valve/s. But again as a rule anything below 50k would be unlikely, as the rarely need shim adjustment below that mileage, even above that figure they don't go out much with normal road use.     

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Idles with choke open but stalls on acceleration
« on: 24 September 2023, 03:16:17 pm »
Rigth, except that the seal isn't sold separately and the complete filler cap is around $350  :'(

Try these

https://mtp-racing.com/Fuel-Tank-Cap-7-Holes-MTP6626__Yamaha-FZS-600-N-Fazer-RJ021-022-1998-2001_1
or
https://www.wemoto.com/bikes/yamaha/fzs_600_fazer_sp/01/picture/fuel_cap_with_spare_key

You could also try these, you need to measure the rubber and email them. Like many parts they aren't always model specific in that they use off the shelf stuff and fit the same parts across many models to cut cost.
https://www.ncjetski.co.uk/products/yamahagenuinefuelcapseal-yamahamarine-yagp7u78320100
   
or use a universal and cut it to size, you just need to make sure it's big enough and the same thickness. 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/402352153009?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20201210111314%26meid%3Dcbde3ce84a1a4a2ca0afd1e7bed05454%26pid%3D101195%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D254523940092%26itm%3D402352153009%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D4429486%26algv%3DSimplAMLv11WebTrimmedV3MskuWithLambda85KnnRecallV1V2V4ItemNrtInQueryAndCassiniVisualRankerAndBertRecallWithVMEV3CPCAuto&_trksid=p4429486.c101195.m1851&amdata=cksum%3A402352153009cbde3ce84a1a4a2ca0afd1e7bed05454%7Cenc%3AAQAIAAABUObhgc4Nk8%252BdtAwOww4FKLaj%252FQ5qqgDlQCuqZA43WcPFUWDERCUugbbOk7XQv0JXlBfqCg2xKF3WcPghxGMFw2oSlXvfExEaMYr7I7LmrHcP6czY1wIMt0ORyKiCWt95xldincyyBx3g%252BNDW%252B%252FhWUgTaBhK6xAm%252BJIbCOMehu%252Bdwgrp%252FutCPvyb8KO9h4rrJ0zH9wH4QobXz71MGkE0ROQ1Hp%252FQIAyDYcoPyas31Fsuv%252FllmciFPrIzkYqBWNCaOlryzNJ6lf5z0%252Fm9kz5D7yymukXtC3i3DDxtPo74rqDWM1sOOWuJNnXvNL1cOWxu%252FfHQ7Nly2YFBr4k0CGFy5XUwSBBMOSVDsInvUk7n9PDPSGz0ZDz0k9TnESn%252FeaOdLHPSlfno9o6QmA%252BL47hQ0q4BoAb%252BZUBqKJYExpVSLPrJrvXn50CIVRiEvw4qgkxT%252BGw%253D%253D%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A4429486

It's also possible it's not the rubber but the tank neck that's the issue, either repair it, if possible or replace the tank, for an undamaged one.


 


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General / Re: what did you do with your fazer today ?
« on: 23 September 2023, 08:35:34 am »
A sad day, I still miss mine :(

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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Tyres (that old chestnut)
« on: 21 September 2023, 07:49:49 am »
Michelin Pilot roads, a real world tyre, my customers love them. In my opinion they're the best mix of grip/wear/cost etc.




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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Help: gearbox removal
« on: 20 September 2023, 05:00:10 pm »
Dear experts, I have to take out the gearbox, it seems. The question is: if I take the engine out of the frame, is it possible to remove the lower half of the engine, and take out the gears WITHOUT removing the cylinders, pistons, cyl.head etc.? Thank you in advance.


No.   The bike doesn't have just a gear box, the gear cluster is within the engine casing and there's 2 bolts that sit under the barrel block.  These are either side of the cam chain void and cylinders 2 & 3.


Why do you need to remove the gear cluster?       

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This is a SW Motech adaptor kit for Givi panniers to fit 99 - 07 Hayabusa, it may well fit other bikes.  These are often universal kits and just adjustment or another bracket/s is/are required.  Buyer needs to do their homework if not buying for the above mentioned bike. 

The kit is in used but in very good condition £40 ovno plus postage or collection in the Melton Mowbray area.






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For Sale & Wanted / Givi 40lt Monokey panniers as new not used
« on: 14 September 2023, 04:36:10 pm »
From their very popular Monokey range of luggage, they're 40lt, I think they're the E360Ns which are topcase/panniers.

They are unpacked but never used so as new condition, still got protective cover on the badge, they come with all keys.  These panniers will fit any bike once you've bought the mounting kit for whatever bike.

£140 ovno plus postage or free collection, Melton Mowbray area.







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For Sale & Wanted / Givi 46lt Top Box SOLD
« on: 14 September 2023, 03:47:54 pm »
This is from there very popular Monokey range of boxes and E460, 46lt. Used but in good condition, comes complete with all keys, mounting plate and the power lead for the rear light, which is new and unused.  This top box can fit any bike once you've bought the mounting kit for whatever bike.

£55 ovno plus postage or free collection from Melton Mowbray area.





Mounting plate





Power lead

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For Sale & Wanted / Yoshimura Tri Oval Busa End Cans unboxed
« on: 14 September 2023, 03:06:27 pm »
As mentioned in the Hayabusa 06 post these are the unboxed pair of 2 pairs of end cans.  These were fitted to the bike when her husband bought the bike and replaced with the boxed pair. 

The unboxed set.

There're are small marks and dents on both cans unlike the boxed pair there's no damage to the over banding areas If you know anything about these you'll know they can be completely disassembled and rebuilt.  All the dents could be removed and all parts polished.  Another option it to buy these and the boxed set and build a pair from the 2 sets, job done.  These are straight fit for 99 -07 Busa's they could possibly fit others in the Gixxer range or other bikes with a mounting rings she's looking for £150 plus postage at cost.

If you bought both sets you'd get a good as new pair for less than half the cost of new ;)




Left Can



Right Can



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For Sale & Wanted / Yoshimura Tri Oval Busa End Cans Boxed
« on: 14 September 2023, 02:44:32 pm »
As mentioned in the Hayabusa 06 post these are the the boxed pair of 2 pairs of end cans.  These were fitted to the bike at some point. 

The boxed set.

These are complete with all the packaging and the 2 road baffles.  There're slight marks on both cans and on the RH can what looks like either something has knocked into or the bike scraped into a wall/door way, there is a tightish gate way into her garden were the bike was kept, or it's been knocked over.  If you know anything about these you can obtain the over banding strip from the importer, de-rivet the damaged one, reprofile/polish the end cap, refit the new banding, job done. 

These are straight fit for 99 -07 Busa's they could possibly fit others in the Gixxer range or other bikes with a mounting rings she's looking for £450, plus postage at cost.












Left Can


Right Can





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For Sale & Wanted / Hayabusa 06
« on: 14 September 2023, 01:23:50 pm »
This is the last bike I'm trying to shift for the same customer as the RD400 & Blade, again this was her late husbands bike.  It's taken longer as she was toying with keeping it, but has decided now to let it go. 

It's in fully running order, serviced by me in Aug this year and it runs fine as does it ride.  It's had been stood pretty much for the last 3 yrs other than MOT's and the odd ride, I've put approximately 300miles on it over the last year, sorting it out for her as she was going to keep it.  It's completely standard, except for the polished rims :rolleyes  In good to fair condition for year, rust beginning to appear on the odd fastener/bolt/screw etc mainly due to it being standing under a bike cover in her garden for over 2yrs, all easily sorted. There is corrosion on the exhaust link pipes, the offside is worst.  These are double skin and it's the chrome outer that's starting to go, very common issue, easily replaced.  There are the normal wear and tear blemishes you'd expect for a 17 yr old bike, especially one that's not been garaged all it's life.   

Both tyres are new Michelin Road 5, fitted at it's last MOT in Aug 22, they've covered 379 miles.  Genuine mileage of 10601, which is low for the year.   
It doesn't have a current MOT, last was Aug 22, after having the front callipers rebuilt and painted by the garage who MOT'd it.  Lets just say they worked, just, lacked power and feel and looked terrible.  They'd painted them after rebuilding them with car paint, the wrong colour to boot, the paint then hardened and was jamming the pistons. :rolleyes  These were both stripped at service, the paint removed, rebuilt and new Vernhill lines fitted.  They now work as they should, cosmetically they really need a repaint to return them to as the should look.   She doesn't want to spend any more on this bike and this is left for the next owner if they so which. 

It will either have a new MOT for the new owner or this will be reflected in an agreed selling price, bike is currently SORN.

The bike runs and handles as you'd expect, the motor is really strong again as you'd expect from a Busa, it really is all about the motor, if you've owned/ridden one you'll know hat I mean, they're awesome. This is a turn the key and ride off, just needs MOT, and some TLC. 

It's worth in the region of £4800 ish, to allow for points mentioned above, she's looking for £4000 ovno, she wants in gone.




















These next pictures were taken just after the service and wash down, they show the cheesy rim stickers that are no longer there.









The bike also has 2 sets of Yoshi end cans both used, one set boxed, the other loose.  There's also a complete Givi luggage set, panniers look unused/little used, plus full mounting plates and mounting bars for them.  The boxes and mounting plates will fit any bike the bars possibly not as it's Busa specific.  These will be listed separately but could be sold with the bike if required at extra cost.       

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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Clutch
« on: 12 September 2023, 01:04:37 pm »
If there is a noticeable rattle/rumble when the clutch is pulled, that would suggest basket bearing and/or worn basket.  Could also be push rod assembly wear.     

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General / Re: Which Fazer is the best and why?
« on: 11 September 2023, 01:20:50 pm »
I can t really comment since ive only ever ridden the fz6 s2, but i will throw into the mix that I would never have another carburated motorcycle, both from personal experience and noting the many posts on here regarding carb problems with the fzs600. That alone makes the fz6 s2 a superior machine to the fzs600
Never had an issue on any of my carburetor model bikes. My 600 has 97000miles and the 1000 has 50000miles. The 2 Serows I own have 20000 miles on each also without issue. Any problems I have come across is with is fuel evaporation especially with Ethanol based fuels causing jet clogging. I have seen similar issues with fuel injected bikes with injectors clogging from fuel being left in them for long periods of non use. However it does take longer to cause issue than  carbs as they are less prone to evaporation. Blocked injectors are a bigger pain to sort than blocked jets and more expensive.The only injected bikes I have ridden that I could live with were the FJR1300 and believe it or not the S1000RR.

Pretty much every bike I see/work on that's had/got fuel system issues be they Crab or Injected is down to other issues not the fuel be that E5 or 10.  Crab model bikes imported into the UK above 250cc are as far as I'm aware all injected and have been for approximately 10yrs ish, over 500cc longer.

Every Fazer or any other bike, I've worked on/repaired with blocked jets has been due to, contaminated fuel being put in, rust in the tank, leaking filler cap seals or split fuel pipes, allowing water ingress, the same applies to injections systems.  The issue is the owners not the fuel it's self. 
 


       

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General / Re: Which Fazer is the best and why?
« on: 11 September 2023, 01:01:45 pm »
I will not put e10 in my 25 year old bike i do not care if I am told it is safe and effective  ;)
Any future issues ‐ how can I prove it was the e10 and who is going to compensate me. I will trust my instincts again on this me thinks


You'll have little choice now  :lol

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General / Re: Question about silencers
« on: 11 September 2023, 12:59:42 pm »
This is a subjective subject to a large extent.  Back in the day there was cans stamped as mentioned this can/does still happen, that said many newer (last 15yrs or so) have removal baffles, i.e. when the baffle/s is removed it's not road compliant.  What still further complicates matters is the final say it down to the MOT tester ears :rolleyes .

A basic rule of thumb if it sounds too loud to you, chances are its tooooooo loud ;)


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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Idles with choke open but stalls on acceleration
« on: 07 September 2023, 01:07:54 pm »
Learning: Don't leave the bike in heavy rain for a long period with only a few litres in the tank  :lol


Better still replace the filler cap seal  ;)




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