QuoteHow do we even begin to fight hatred being bred by family like that?By slitting their throats?
How do we even begin to fight hatred being bred by family like that?
QuoteWell finally, a sensible decision by a government body for a change.Shamima Begum has UK citizenship 'revoked' I think the truth is that this is what they are trying to do. I cannot see it standing up in court. I further suspect this is political populism. A stunt. The government is trying to do something it can’t do, and frankly should not be doing, just to play to popular opinion – and you guys are lapping up it, just like you lapped up BREXIT.Meanwhile the reality is that if the international community reneges on it’s obligations, as quite a number of you here seem to wish, it means that there is a strong possibility the Kurdish forces whom are holding these people will do what they can to can to unofficially return them to their respective countries etc etc They do not have the resources for trials or to jail them, I don’t think even the finances to deport them (which they would happily do), so I suspect they will move them on one way or another. These people are not the responsibility of the Kurds.Our government appears to be happy to let ISIS go free.
Well finally, a sensible decision by a government body for a change.Shamima Begum has UK citizenship 'revoked'
I guess one thing to remember is that Shamina was being questioned and making the statements she did whilst still under the watchful eye of the Jihads.I think if she had said that she now realises her mistakes and that the jihads are wrong and that she now condemns them for their actions and is now remorseful for her own actions, I think she would not have seen the night out in one piece, she was answering the questions in a manner that gave her and her children born or unborn the greatest chance of survival.Seems to me she is doomed whatever she said, I know that she made her choices and that no one forced her initially to make those choices, but she was only a 15 year old kid. And no I don't really know what to think, all I do know is that there are innocent children in the equation, possibly the age of some of our Grandchildren.
Quote from: VNA on 19 February 2019, 08:44:03 pmQuoteWell finally, a sensible decision by a government body for a change.Shamima Begum has UK citizenship 'revoked' I think the truth is that this is what they are trying to do. I cannot see it standing up in court. I further suspect this is political populism. A stunt. The government is trying to do something it can’t do, and frankly should not be doing, just to play to popular opinion – and you guys are lapping up it, just like you lapped up BREXIT.Meanwhile the reality is that if the international community reneges on it’s obligations, as quite a number of you here seem to wish, it means that there is a strong possibility the Kurdish forces whom are holding these people will do what they can to can to unofficially return them to their respective countries etc etc They do not have the resources for trials or to jail them, I don’t think even the finances to deport them (which they would happily do), so I suspect they will move them on one way or another. These people are not the responsibility of the Kurds.Our government appears to be happy to let ISIS go free."...just to play to popular opinion..."Bit like winning, or acting on a majority vote you mean?
QuoteYour liberal left policies and thinking gain ground every year, especially with the middle class young at the universities.What the fuck are you on about Ogri?As I have repeatedly stated this will be about due process and the rule of law. Though sadly will now take some time, with much money wasted.It is as simple as that.As for my opinion. Sajid Javid is just partaking in shameful populist posturing.
Your liberal left policies and thinking gain ground every year, especially with the middle class young at the universities.
Quote during ww2 we interred every german living here, to guarantee as much as possible the safety of the indigenous populationYou're missing the point. We didn't deport British Nazi sympathisers.
during ww2 we interred every german living here, to guarantee as much as possible the safety of the indigenous population
Ive already said that several hundred fighters have been allowed to return here, but we only remove the citizenship from one stupid young woman. Id would have taken it of all of em and stopped them from returning to their lives on benefits here. As theyre already here, them perhaps a camp set up in the Scottish highlands where they can all be kept isolated. Hopefully, many would die of the cold and damp.
Good idea - what about an island somewhere -------Skytanamobay. Instead of orange boiler suites we can make them wear kilts, feed them haggis - halal of course (which it probably already is) and have them woken up at the crack o doon by bagpipes.Problem solved as there is no jihadi that would want to come back and face that.
Quote from: fazersharp on 20 February 2019, 10:59:08 amGood idea - what about an island somewhere -------Skytanamobay. Instead of orange boiler suites we can make them wear kilts, feed them haggis - halal of course (which it probably already is) and have them woken up at the crack o doon by bagpipes.Problem solved as there is no jihadi that would want to come back and face that. don't forget the bacon sandwiches
Syria returners illustrative exampleIn 2015, a British woman travels to join Daesh. In 2017 the individual flees Daesh-held territory with a new born baby and they make their way to Turkey. On arrival in Turkey the mother and the child are detained for entering the country illegally.Following the mother’s detention the British authorities are notified. DNA testing of the child is conducted to establish their entitlement to a British passport. Given that the mother has lived in Daesh-held territory, the Home Secretary and a judge approve the use of a Temporary Exclusion Order (TEO) to manage her return to the UK. The TEO allows us to specify the route of return to the UK and to impose obligations upon the individual once they return to help protect members of the public from a risk of terrorism.The mother and her child are subsequently deported to the UK from Turkey via the route specified by the TEO. On arrival in the UK the police launch an investigation into the woman’s activities in Syria to determine whether any crimes have been committed. If there is evidence that a crime has been committed then the mother will be charged and the Crown Prosecution Service will conduct criminal proceedings. If there is no evidence of criminality, the mother is assisted in reintegrating into society, for example, by requiring her to attend a series of sessions with a specially trained de-radicalisation mentor. In the meantime the mother is also obliged – as part of her TEO – to report regularly to a police station and to notify the Home Office of any change of address. The local authority is involved to ensure that the child is not at immediate risk and appropriate measures are put in place to help safeguard the child’s welfare.
during ww2 we interred every german living here, to guarantee as much as possible the safety of the indigenous population. During the Iraq war kebab shops in Peterborough were freely advertising for freedom fighters to kill the british infidel. Your liberal left policies and thinking gain ground every year, especially with the middle class young at the universities. Your winning, and have been ever since the left took over the teaching profession. You will get there. This will be a country of apologists and people who despise its history and heritage. Everybody will eventually think like you, that this country belongs to whoever wants to come here, not those whose ancestors fought to protect it for us who believe differently. This country that I know and love will be gone forever. I know that..its inevitable. I just hope its not until im long gone
Just pointing out summat mate..as a mature student at Uni im surrounded by ardent left wing tutors and students every day.
Justice has been served! Quite chuffed with Britain at the moment! [
Your winning, and have been ever since the left took over the teaching profession. You will get there.
Everybody will eventually think like you, that this country belongs to whoever wants to come here, not those whose ancestors fought to protect it for us who believe differently.
darrsi like it 'boom boom'
It's all academic now, she'll be let back in fairly soon.I expect we'll see her on Good Morning Britain talking to Peers Morgan six months down the line.
Quote from: celticdog on 20 February 2019, 10:09:31 pmIt's all academic now, she'll be let back in fairly soon.I expect we'll see her on Good Morning Britain talking to Peers Morgan six months down the line.I'm A Celebrity, Get Me Out Of Here