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Title: Spark plugs
Post by: paul1962 on 06 November 2016, 11:33:29 am
Now forgive this question but never had a Fazer before my last bike was a Blackbird, but do you need to remove the tank on the fazer to get the plugs out to check them

and /or change the air filter

still waiting for my Haynes to come in the post

Thanks guys

Paul
Title: Re: Spark plugs
Post by: darrsi on 06 November 2016, 12:01:08 pm
I use a proper spark plug socket with a universal joint attached to the ratchet to give a bit more flexibility in movement.
I've just been outside trimming the ends of my HT leads funnily enough.


I know with earlier models, including mine, the tank has to come off to remove the air filter, but i'm not sure about your model, in the back of mind i remember reading you could avoid that with 02/03 models but i could be wrong so someone will no doubt give you a more solid answer very shortly. 
Title: Re: Spark plugs
Post by: darrsi on 06 November 2016, 12:02:58 pm
Maybe you do have to remove the tank then!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnDPwJxfN00 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnDPwJxfN00)
Title: Re: Spark plugs
Post by: red98 on 06 November 2016, 12:48:57 pm
No need to remove the tank....best tool to use is the one in the bikes tool kit under the seat.....made for the job   :thumbup
Title: Re: Spark plugs
Post by: misterjayb1 on 06 November 2016, 12:58:09 pm
To remove the air filter, yes.. The plugs, no
Title: Re: Spark plugs
Post by: fazersharp on 06 November 2016, 03:16:00 pm
Before you remove the plugs get a brush and also hoover out any crap that may be down the hole otherwise it will fall down into your head when you take the plug out
Title: Re: Spark plugs
Post by: crickleymal on 06 November 2016, 08:07:19 pm
He's right. The amount of crap that's fallen into my head over the years is unbelievable.
Title: Re: Spark plugs
Post by: YamFazFan on 06 November 2016, 08:55:37 pm
Before you remove the plugs get a brush and also hoover out any crap that may be down the hole otherwise it will fall down into your head when you take the plug out

That's a top tip.

I've always wondered however, how often that gets done in motorcycle workshops where probably most bikes have their plugs changed?
Title: Re: Spark plugs
Post by: Jules-C on 06 November 2016, 09:19:25 pm
Motorbike workshops will have compressed airline on hand and a quick blast of air after plug caps removed should blow anything out.  If you don't think they'll be doing that I wouldn't take my bike to them
Title: Re: Spark plugs
Post by: YamFazFan on 06 November 2016, 11:14:33 pm
Motorbike workshops will have compressed airline on hand and a quick blast of air after plug caps removed should blow anything out.  If you don't think they'll be doing that I wouldn't take my bike to them

Good point. I guess it should be standard procedure?.

I've never asked before a service if they do that though.
Title: Re: Spark plugs
Post by: tommyardin on 07 November 2016, 10:56:32 pm
He's right. The amount of crap that's fallen into my head over the years is unbelievable.


It's the amount of crap that has come out of my head over the years that is a bit worrying  :lol
Title: Re: Spark plugs
Post by: celticdog on 08 November 2016, 07:30:53 am
Go for the CR8E plugs, that's the best type for cold starting. Iriduim well that's another question!
Title: Re: Spark plugs
Post by: fazersharp on 08 November 2016, 01:04:10 pm
You don't need to be going to a bike workshop to change your sparkplugs, unless its a brand new bike for the warranty.
The car on the other hand - I dont even know where they are, I cant see them.   
Title: Re: Spark plugs
Post by: darrsi on 08 November 2016, 01:49:17 pm
Go for the CR8E plugs, that's the best type for cold starting. Iriduim well that's another question!


Ask me the question, i have them?
Title: Re: Spark plugs
Post by: paul1962 on 08 November 2016, 04:05:26 pm
Well thanks guys for all the comments will check them at the weekend now with the proper tool from the tool kits

Paul  :)
Title: Re: Spark plugs
Post by: celticdog on 08 November 2016, 09:02:15 pm
Glad you've got the info you need Paul  :)


Go for the CR8E plugs, that's the best type for cold starting. Iriduim well that's another question!


Ask me the question, i have them?


Ah go on then .  .  . What's the score with these unobtanium plugs darrsi?- Any pros and cons are much appreciated  :D

Title: Re: Spark plugs
Post by: fazersharp on 08 November 2016, 11:45:10 pm
Glad you've got the info you need Paul  :)


Go for the CR8E plugs, that's the best type for cold starting. Iriduim well that's another question!


Ask me the question, i have them?


Ah go on then .  .  . What's the score with these unobtanium plugs darrsi?- Any pros and cons are much appreciated  :D


I think the main difference is that they last much longer that normal but unless you are doing massive miles then the price difference is not worth while
Title: Re: Spark plugs
Post by: midden on 08 November 2016, 11:59:43 pm
FYI you can download the workshop manual  from the download section.
Title: Re: Spark plugs
Post by: darrsi on 09 November 2016, 01:56:44 pm
Glad you've got the info you need Paul  :)


Go for the CR8E plugs, that's the best type for cold starting. Iriduim well that's another question!


Ask me the question, i have them?


Ah go on then .  .  . What's the score with these unobtanium plugs darrsi?- Any pros and cons are much appreciated  :D


I think the main difference is that they last much longer that normal but unless you are doing massive miles then the price difference is not worth while


They would be worth the while eventually becausr you would get your moneys worth, and if you properly shop around they're really not as expensive as you'd think.
I only bought new ones recently to eliminate them from my starting issues, but i've cleaned up the old ones and kept hold of them 'cos there'll be plenty more life in them.
Title: Re: Spark plugs
Post by: fazersharp on 09 November 2016, 02:41:27 pm
Glad you've got the info you need Paul  :)


Go for the CR8E plugs, that's the best type for cold starting. Iriduim well that's another question!


Ask me the question, i have them?


Ah go on then .  .  . What's the score with these unobtanium plugs darrsi?- Any pros and cons are much appreciated  :D


I think the main difference is that they last much longer that normal but unless you are doing massive miles then the price difference is not worth while


They would be worth the while eventually becausr you would get your moneys worth, and if you properly shop around they're really not as expensive as you'd think.
I only bought new ones recently to eliminate them from my starting issues, but i've cleaned up the old ones and kept hold of them 'cos there'll be plenty more life in them.
But there is no performance benefit ---is there ?
Title: Re: Spark plugs
Post by: darrsi on 09 November 2016, 03:12:01 pm
Glad you've got the info you need Paul  :)


Go for the CR8E plugs, that's the best type for cold starting. Iriduim well that's another question!



Ask me the question, i have them?



Ah go on then .  .  . What's the score with these unobtanium plugs darrsi?- Any pros and cons are much appreciated  :D



I think the main difference is that they last much longer that normal but unless you are doing massive miles then the price difference is not worth while



They would be worth the while eventually becausr you would get your moneys worth, and if you properly shop around they're really not as expensive as you'd think.
I only bought new ones recently to eliminate them from my starting issues, but i've cleaned up the old ones and kept hold of them 'cos there'll be plenty more life in them.

But there is no performance benefit ---is there ?


Not really, it's more about longevity.

http://www.sparkplugs.co.uk/iridium-spark-plugs (http://www.sparkplugs.co.uk/iridium-spark-plugs)