You can steer a bike without bar input
Always carry a bag of KFC when considering riding near or at the limit....
in relation to ships .........maybe bikes are totally different........
ou can steer a bike without bar input (remember the white helmet display team, the fella that climbed a ladder on the back and steered AROUND the arena )...also when you let go of the bars to do up your gloves you can still steer with your foot pressure on the pegs.
I just think some good advice when a fella asks a question is nice, at the moment he is changing all his suspension, trying to keep upright while making sure his tyres are the same diameter right across and have no shiny bits...
Maybe you got a sidecar...or a shit tape measure
Hold on, I am just saying you can steer a bike without the bars, no one said anything about at speed,
Leaning has nothing to do with getting a bike round a corner at speed. It’s all in your hands.
That's a good explanation Grahammmmm...so Leaning is NOT optional. Anyway, calm down UNFAZED, it's not a competition to see who can get round fastest, or leave the most metal/leather on the road. What we seek here is a good approach, on the correct line, in the right gear at a brisk but not excessive pace, followed by a smooth arc around the turn leading into a full power exit on the right side of the road, thereby providing a wholesome feeling of harmony between rider, motorcycle and universe.
I think we have established that changing down and using engine braking on the approach to a bend, and then trail braking into the curve is a good practice...
the problem I find is that u have to quickly switch from front brake to throttle at the apex, which is tricky....some recommend using only two fingers on the brake..but I don't find that easy
I agree with the Dude. I think it’s part of normal cornering. Also, if you come off the brake before the turn, the suspension unloads before loading up as you enter the turn - so less grip and composure. By trail braking you keep the suspension loaded coming gradually off the brake as you tip the bike in with the bars, thus maintaining plenty of grip on the front wheel.
Quote from: Steve3351 on 22 June 2019, 01:05:37 pmI think we have established that changing down and using engine braking on the approach to a bend, and then trail braking into the curve is a good practice...I disagree about "trail braking", especially if the road is wet or potentially slippery. It might be a good technique on a race track, but there you don't have to worry about on-coming traffic...My advice is to get your braking done *before* you turn into the bend and stay away from the front brake, but it's your life and your choice.Quotethe problem I find is that u have to quickly switch from front brake to throttle at the apex, which is tricky....some recommend using only two fingers on the brake..but I don't find that easyIf I'm riding in traffic at low speeds, I'm almost always two-finger braking with my index and middle finger on the brake lever and my ring finger and little finger wrapped around the throttle.What are you finding difficult about it? If it's the reach, try getting yourself a set of adjustable clutch and brake levers from eBay. there's plenty of Chinese ones on there which I and other Foccers use.To set them, what I do is to set my hand for two-finger braking, then adjust them such that, at full squeeze, they don't quite squash my fingers on the throttle.But I wouldn't use two-finger braking on a bend at speed, again, it might work for racing, but it's not so great on the open road...