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Title: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: YamFazFan on 03 January 2018, 06:33:40 pm
Any info here would be much appreciated.

Does anyone know how you remove the shade from the type of ceiling light in the photo please?.

There's no outer shade fixings at all and no evidence of their ever having been any (no screw holes etc..)

The shade will rotate endlessly both clockwise and anticlockwise without coming off.

Both base and shade are plastic.

Thanking you kindly :)
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: celticdog on 03 January 2018, 07:25:54 pm
Well that's got me thinking!


1. try turning the white part anticlockwise but this time with downward pressure, it may need to catch on the thread.
2. Do the same again only in the opposite direction.
3. stick a screwdriver in between the black and white sections and gently try to lever off.
4. Do the same as no 3 again but this time have 2 screwdrivers- on at 3 and one a 9 o clock.
5. try any or all of the above to the black section in case it's like a 'sealed unit' with a lid.
6. Take a hammer to the foccer and buy a new light fitting.
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: Mark YPVS on 03 January 2018, 07:28:36 pm
If the black base is plastic it should lever off but use a electrically insulated screwdriver and isolate the light first  :eek :eek :rollin
Mark :)
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: celticdog on 03 January 2018, 07:34:41 pm
If the black base is plastic it should lever off but use a electrically insulated screwdriver and isolate the light first  :eek :eek :rollin
Mark :)


That's no good is it!?! How can you see what to do without having the light on.  :lol
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: Mark YPVS on 03 January 2018, 07:36:16 pm
If the black base is plastic it should lever off but use a electrically insulated screwdriver and isolate the light first  :eek :eek :rollin
Mark :)


That's no good is it!?! How can you see what to do without having the light on.  :lol


Hahahaha i hadn't thought of that :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: YamFazFan on 03 January 2018, 07:46:13 pm
1. try turning the white part anticlockwise but this time with downward pressure, it may need to catch on the thread.

That was my first thought but no luck there :\
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: Frosties on 03 January 2018, 07:49:47 pm
Well that's got me thinking!


1. try turning the white part anticlockwise but this time with downward pressure, it may need to catch on the thread.
2. Do the same again only in the opposite direction.
3. stick a screwdriver in between the black and white sections and gently try to lever off.
4. Do the same as no 3 again but this time have 2 screwdrivers- on at 3 and one a 9 o clock.
5. try any or all of the above to the black section in case it's like a 'sealed unit' with a lid.
6. Take a hammer to the foccer and buy a new light fitting.


'Cos it's ugly as fook  :lol :lol
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: Hugh Mungus on 03 January 2018, 07:59:09 pm
I would assume that it clips into place OR it might have a couple of slots that need lining up before it can be lowered.


I suggest that you try rotating the shade while feeling for a slight notchy feeling which might indicate a slot having just lined up, then carefully prise it off. When that fails just hit it with the aforementioned hammer and replace with a nice new LED unit.
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: agricola on 03 January 2018, 08:01:14 pm
1 Try turning the black base, it may be screwed onto a holder
2 Look for timing marks on both the black and white sections, if there are, line them up and pull the two apart
3 Wrap the thing in cling film and tap the white glass with a hammer, the film should stop the glass splintering all ove rthe floor and into your eyes, then carefully remove the offending object
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: YamFazFan on 03 January 2018, 08:15:58 pm
I would assume that it clips into place OR it might have a couple of slots that need lining up before it can be lowered.


I suggest that you try rotating the shade while feeling for a slight notchy feeling which might indicate a slot having just lined up, then carefully prise it off.

Tried that too with no luck :\ ( feeling for notches/slots, not prising which I'm reluctant to do until I'm sure I won't break anything)

And before anyone else mentions it again :lol, I can't take a hammer to the offending item as it's not mine.
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: Nemesis on 03 January 2018, 09:24:29 pm
Hammer time :rollin regardless, oops accidentally of course
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: fazersharp on 03 January 2018, 10:20:21 pm
Did you idiots not listen NO Hammer -------- He cant touch it.

Let me explain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo&list=RDotCpCn0l4Wo&t=14 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo&list=RDotCpCn0l4Wo&t=14)
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: Skippernick on 03 January 2018, 10:56:54 pm
I can't take a hammer to the offending item as it's not mine.


Then its not your problem!


Fixed that for you. Thank me later.
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: YamFazFan on 03 January 2018, 11:07:40 pm
Yeah ta for that :rolleyes :lol

Forgot to mention, both the base and shade are plastic.
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: Hugh Mungus on 04 January 2018, 05:27:22 am
I can't take a hammer to the offending item as it's not mine.


Forgot to mention, both the base and shade are plastic.


Two vital bits of info there...


I've had the same sort of problem many years ago and there were 2 or 3 tiny grub screws. If you cannot find a grub screw in the black part that may be holding the white part in then it's going to be a prise off job.
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: red98 on 04 January 2018, 06:48:13 am
Yep , if its made of plastic that is indeed a big clue , at first glance I was thinking glass.....my guess as its plastic is , its probably an inexpensive unit and just clipped together , I would start by running a blade between the two parts , if it is just push fit it wont take much to separate the two halves , will be light weight and wont need much to hold it together.....looks old too me so take it easy when levering , that plastic might have gone brittle with age....
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: YamFazFan on 04 January 2018, 08:10:53 am
Cheers fellas, that sounds likely then.

I've updated the original post to include the plastic info now.

Would it still rotate as it does if it was indeed clipped together do you think?.
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: BBROWN1664 on 04 January 2018, 09:30:03 am


Would it still rotate as it does if it was indeed clipped together do you think?.

Yes

It will either prise off or will need a hammer. Depending how old it is it may break anyway.
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: Oldgit on 04 January 2018, 10:04:22 am
Hammer time--you Can touch this
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: YamFazFan on 04 January 2018, 10:26:59 am


Would it still rotate as it does if it was indeed clipped together do you think?.

Yes

It will either prise off or will need a hammer. Depending how old it is it may break anyway.

Approx 30 years old I'm guessing.

OK thanks to the famous Foccer Font Of Knowledge i now feel empowered😉.

Will report back in due course.

(only seeking to gain access to the light bulb in order to replace).
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: tommyardin on 04 January 2018, 05:38:27 pm



Talking of hammers,


The judge says to a double-homicide defendant, "You're charged with beating your wife to death with a hammer."
A voice at the back of the courtroom yells out, "You Swine."
 
The judge says, "You're also charged with beating your mother-in-law to death with a hammer."
 
The voice in the back of the courtroom yells out, "You Dirty Swine."
 
The judge stops and says to the guy in the back of the courtroom, "Sir, I can understand your anger and frustration at this violent and brutal crime. But no more outbursts from you, or I'll charge you with contempt. Is that understood?"
 
The guy in the back of the court stands up and says, "I'm sorry, Your Honour, but for fifteen years I've lived next door to that bastard, and every time I asked to borrow a hammer, he said he didn't have one." 
:lol
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: Hugh Mungus on 04 January 2018, 08:14:54 pm

Don't know why but part of my reply earlier went into really small writing... Repeated below...

I've had the same sort of problem many years ago and there were 2 or 3 tiny grub screws.
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: mtread on 04 January 2018, 10:45:08 pm
Bloody Hammers. They park the bus all the game, and get a goal with their first shot  :groan
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: darrsi on 05 January 2018, 06:27:44 am

Don't know why but part of my reply earlier went into really small writing... Repeated below...

I've had the same sort of problem many years ago and there were 2 or 3 tiny grub screws.



Yeah, it's still all a bit of a mystery why it still does that, most often when you copy and paste something?
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: HarryHornby on 05 January 2018, 06:39:34 am
Does the black base slide over some sort of clip in the ceiling rather than turning it, try pushing it from various angles.
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: darrsi on 05 January 2018, 06:41:25 am
Does the black base slide over some sort of clip in the ceiling rather than turning it, try pushing it from various angles.


This is like something out of The Crystal Maze  :lol
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: Skippernick on 05 January 2018, 04:53:30 pm
GET THE CRYSTAL!!
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: YamFazFan on 05 January 2018, 06:11:19 pm
Does the black base slide over some sort of clip in the ceiling rather than turning it, try pushing it from various angles.


This is like something out of The Crystal Maze  :lol

 :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: crickleymal on 08 January 2018, 11:57:14 am
Wierdly I've been fascinated by this thread, awaiting the next installment with baited breath. (It's been a slow Christmas)
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: agricola on 08 January 2018, 12:30:03 pm
Is it off yet?
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: Hugh Mungus on 08 January 2018, 08:33:03 pm
Can't have found the correct hammer to use...
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: fazersharp on 08 January 2018, 09:08:45 pm
Does it plug in with a 3.5 jack or phono
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: slappy on 09 January 2018, 08:45:11 am
Does it plug in with a 3.5 jack or phono


 :rollin he has  tried both but still cannot get a picture on it.
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: YamFazFan on 09 January 2018, 11:48:07 am

 :lol
Does it plug in with a 3.5 jack or phono


 :rollin he has  tried both but still cannot get a picture on it.


 :lol :lol :lol


All done. It was clip on type.


Cheers fellas :) .
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: Nemesis on 17 January 2018, 02:59:20 am
Yam where the clips removed with a 2lb lump hammer :lol, thought I could see if this thread could go any further, glad you got it sorted
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: darrsi on 17 January 2018, 06:28:27 am

 :lol
Does it plug in with a 3.5 jack or phono


 :rollin he has  tried both but still cannot get a picture on it.


 :lol :lol :lol


All done. It was clip on type.


Cheers fellas :) .


Not even a bloody photo of the clips???  :groan
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: tommyardin on 17 January 2018, 08:07:36 am
Like Darssi, I feel short changed, let down and discarded, all our thoughts on this topic and waking early in the mornings to rush to our desktops and laptops, some to their smartphones to be told 'it was a clip on type'
Like has been said not even a fucking photo of said clip or clips, that's the thanks we get for all out concerns, worrying and sleepless nights because of this problem, how fucking selfish can the man get.  :lol :rolleyes :eek
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: YamFazFan on 17 January 2018, 08:41:15 am

Like Darssi, I feel short changed, let down and discarded, all our thoughts on this topic and waking early in the mornings to rush to our desktops and laptops, some to their smartphones to be told 'it was a clip on type'
Like has been said not even a fucking photo of said clip or clips, that's the thanks we get for all out concerns, worrying and sleepless nights because of this problem, how fucking selfish can the man get.  :lol :rolleyes :eek


I thought you were meant to be working on that C90? :rolleyes
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: slappy on 17 January 2018, 05:04:09 pm

Like Darssi, I feel short changed, let down and discarded, all our thoughts on this topic and waking early in the mornings to rush to our desktops and laptops, some to their smartphones to be told 'it was a clip on type'
Like has been said not even a fucking photo of said clip or clips, that's the thanks we get for all out concerns, worrying and sleepless nights because of this problem, how fucking selfish can the man get.  :lol :rolleyes :eek


I thought you were meant to be working on that C90? :rolleyes


How can he concentrate on his C90 when he has ceilings light clips on his mind!
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: mtread on 18 January 2018, 11:33:15 am
The old ceiling light clips are now being used to attach the leg shields to the C90....
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: Nemesis on 18 January 2018, 07:34:17 pm
Can we have a pic of the clips :rollin
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: tommyardin on 19 January 2018, 12:42:30 am

Like Darssi, I feel short changed, let down and discarded, all our thoughts on this topic and waking early in the mornings to rush to our desktops and laptops, some to their smartphones to be told 'it was a clip on type'
Like has been said not even a fucking photo of said clip or clips, that's the thanks we get for all out concerns, worrying and sleepless nights because of this problem, how fucking selfish can the man get.  :lol :rolleyes :eek


I thought you were meant to be working on that C90? :rolleyes


I am, C90 completely stripped, swing arm off, front forks off, and the frame and panels all sand blasted, all back to nice clean metal ready for a complete respray, all new cables, front brake, throttle, choke, speedo. New back shocks, new bush set for the link front forks, new battery. Clutch plates and gasket set. New oil sieve/filter, air filter, two new Continental Conti tyres and tubes, all the paint and clear coat, plus the heat resistant engine case spray paint.
Still to purchase brake shoes back and front, hopefully that will be it.
Looking to be riding it in about May.
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: slappy on 19 January 2018, 05:15:37 am

Like Darssi, I feel short changed, let down and discarded, all our thoughts on this topic and waking early in the mornings to rush to our desktops and laptops, some to their smartphones to be told 'it was a clip on type'
Like has been said not even a fucking photo of said clip or clips, that's the thanks we get for all out concerns, worrying and sleepless nights because of this problem, how fucking selfish can the man get.  :lol :rolleyes :eek


I thought you were meant to be working on that C90? :rolleyes


I am, C90 completely stripped, swing arm off, front forks off, and the frame and panels all sand blasted, all back to nice clean metal ready for a complete respray, all new cables, front brake, throttle, choke, speedo. New back shocks, new bush set for the link front forks, new battery. Clutch plates and gasket set. New oil sieve/filter, air filter, two new Continental Conti tyres and tubes, all the paint and clear coat, plus the heat resistant engine case spray paint.
Still to purchase brake shoes back and front, hopefully that will be it.
Looking to be riding it in about May.


Someones been busy! :)
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: YamFazFan on 19 January 2018, 10:05:03 am
Yes you certainly have been!.

Are the parts easy to get?.

I think they stopped selling them here in the emissions cull of 2003 didn't they?

I bet they're still available in other markets though.
Title: Re: Ceiling Light Shade Removal Question
Post by: midden on 21 January 2018, 12:35:03 am

Can we have a pic of the clips :rollin


I'd be interested (really) in seeing the clips as well  :)