Until they can create an EV that charges in minutes and goes at least 200miles from that charge, they'll never get people to adopt it. Also there's the actual issue with where to charge it.
If they fixed that side of thing I'm sure they would be many more people to start buying them rather than trying (as usual) to lecture and guilt them into it by harping on about saving the planet
Internal combustion engines are so efficient and reliable these days.
the UK energy grid DOES NOT have the capacity[/u][/b] to supply the demand let alone the cabling or infrastructure to service the demand.
Fortunately, there are no plans to make electric motorcycles compulsory.
https://www.nationalgrid.com/stories/journey-to-net-zero/5-myths-about-electric-vehicles-bustedNow, whilst you may argue that they have a vested interest in saying that, ask yourself, *where* are the "The National Grid Can't Cope" stories coming from?
Since when did the NG group become electric car experts, I thought their job was electricity transmission.
How do they/we explane the constant and regular brownouts?
Brown outs or black outs are part of the reason for rolling out smart meters because with them they can cut power to single streets at a time
Smart meters are evil snooping devices that collect your data.
Quote from: fazersharp on 03 March 2021, 06:57:50 pmBrown outs or black outs are part of the reason for rolling out smart meters because with them they can cut power to single streets at a time Do you actually have any citatations of examples of this having happened?
Quote from: Grahamm on 04 March 2021, 12:58:11 amQuote from: fazersharp on 03 March 2021, 06:57:50 pmBrown outs or black outs are part of the reason for rolling out smart meters because with them they can cut power to single streets at a time Do you actually have any citatations of examples of this having happened?The technology can do it - I am not aware it has been used yet but the capability is there should the need arise.
Quote As to smart meters allowing them to vary prices during peaks, again we've had that for years. It's called Economy 7. That is fixed 7 hours at night on your tariff. I am talking instant and variable hiking the price up at any time. Sharp Hall used to be on economy 7 but you pay a far higher standing charge than a normal 24 hour rate. Was alright for a while but didnt pay off in the end as they krept the standing charge up.
As to smart meters allowing them to vary prices during peaks, again we've had that for years. It's called Economy 7.
As to smart meters allowing them to vary prices during peaks, again we've had that for years. It's called Economy 7. And it makes sense. Most electricity generation is 24/7 such as wind, hydro and nuclear. So when demand drops, daytime industry stops using it, we turn off our electric kettles and TVs, it makes sense to encourage off peak usage by lowering prices.
Quote from: mtread on 04 March 2021, 03:18:36 pmAs to smart meters allowing them to vary prices during peaks, again we've had that for years. It's called Economy 7. And it makes sense. Most electricity generation is 24/7 such as wind, hydro and nuclear. So when demand drops, daytime industry stops using it, we turn off our electric kettles and TVs, it makes sense to encourage off peak usage by lowering prices. In France they have a system that will be bought in over here at some point relating to the Red White and Blue days. On certain days through the year you are charged a higher rate (red days) or a lower rate (blue days) than your normal rates. They also have an equivalent of Economy 7 for overnight cheap rate too. With their equivalent of the smart meter (The Linky meter) it enables them to bill you for exactly what you have used during the cheap rate (or Read/White/Blue days).Red/White/Blue is used to enchorage you to use less when they know demand will be high. For example, on days they expect high demand from industry meaning less power is available on the grid for consumers or when consumer demand will be higher. They also have the red days on different days of the year in different areas depending on demand.
Quote from: mtread on 04 March 2021, 03:18:36 pmQuote As to smart meters allowing them to vary prices during peaks, again we've had that for years. It's called Economy 7. That is fixed 7 hours at night on your tariff. I am talking instant and variable hiking the price up at any time. Sharp Hall used to be on economy 7 but you pay a far higher standing charge than a normal 24 hour rate. Was alright for a while but didnt pay off in the end as they krept the standing charge up. Agreed. We took my mother in law off E7 for the same reason. Heads you win, tails you lose.
Quote Brown outs or black outs are part of the reason for rolling out smart meters because with them they can cut power to single streets at a timeThey can do that already. It's called Powergen digging up the road As to smart meters allowing them to vary prices during peaks, again we've had that for years. It's called Economy 7. And it makes sense. Most electricity generation is 24/7 such as wind, hydro and nuclear. So when demand drops, daytime industry stops using it, we turn off our electric kettles and TVs, it makes sense to encourage off peak usage by lowering prices.
Quote from: mtread on 04 March 2021, 03:18:36 pmQuote Brown outs or black outs are part of the reason for rolling out smart meters because with them they can cut power to single streets at a timeThey can do that already. It's called Powergen digging up the road As to smart meters allowing them to vary prices during peaks, again we've had that for years. It's called Economy 7. And it makes sense. Most electricity generation is 24/7 such as wind, hydro and nuclear. So when demand drops, daytime industry stops using it, we turn off our electric kettles and TVs, it makes sense to encourage off peak usage by lowering prices.Wind? 24/7? What planet are you on? Our local coal fired has to fire up when the wind drops, and has done regularly this year
The total coal-free period lasted 67 days, 22 hours and 55 minutes, and ended on Tuesday night when the Drax power station in north Yorkshire brought one of its coal units online for maintenance, during which time it added some power to the national grid.