Author Topic: GSXR750... (Read 16512 times)

simonm · « **Reply #50 on:** 03 November 2015, 09:30:44 pm »

What a hilarious question :-).

Why not compare chalk and cheese ?

Gonna go touring in Europe, then a Fazer is the answer.

Want to go hell for leather on the track or twisties then the GSXR 750 is just a stunningly superb piece of kit.

I'll give the Suzuki stick with every breath I draw purely because it is about as chav bling as you get ....BUT.... what an awesome piece of kit. Superb handling, superb engine.

If you do get one, the newer the better, the old K1/W versions had gearboxes made out of chocolate. It's an immense amount of power for a 750 so look after it. If anything goes wrong expect it to be expensive.

Anyone who wants to disagree..... you're welcome to your educate opinion over my hearsay any day of the week.

noggythenog · « **Reply #51 on:** 04 November 2015, 09:06:27 am »

Interesting point from Joe about rear sets.........i had them on my FZ1 & there was no ammount of adjusting that would make them comfortable.......but this was on an upright bike.

Guessing that Anutz is reasonably tall, above 5 foot 10.........then leg position may also play a part in deciding.

I suppose that with lying down you can then extend the legs backwards and perhaps there is a sportsbike out there that has a long hirizontal reach to the pegs.......mentioned this a few times before but i sat on an R1 once......i think it was only a few years old.....again i was surprised as to look at i thought theres no way that will be comfy but because i was lying down my feet on the rearsets felt quite natural as if i could happily lie there like a wild cat lying on a branch.

But yeh if i was looking for a sports bike i think thats what id do...measure the horizontal distance to the pegs.....they all have to have a certain distance vertically to stop grounding but nobody seems to mention the horizontal distance.

anutz · « **Reply #52 on:** 04 November 2015, 09:30:35 am »

Quote from: noggythenog on 04 November 2015, 09:06:27 am

Interesting point from Joe about rear sets.........i had them on my FZ1 & there was no ammount of adjusting that would make them comfortable.......but this was on an upright bike.

Guessing that Anutz is reasonably tall, above 5 foot 10.........then leg position may also play a part in deciding.

I suppose that with lying down you can then extend the legs backwards and perhaps there is a sportsbike out there that has a long hirizontal reach to the pegs.......mentioned this a few times before but i sat on an R1 once......i think it was only a few years old.....again i was surprised as to look at i thought theres no way that will be comfy but because i was lying down my feet on the rearsets felt quite natural as if i could happily lie there like a wild cat lying on a branch.

But yeh if i was looking for a sports bike i think thats what id do...measure the horizontal distance to the pegs.....they all have to have a certain distance vertically to stop grounding but nobody seems to mention the horizontal distance.

you flatter me noggy, i am 5 ft 9, and about as wide

, i also seem to have short legs and a long body, so i look very strange...almost ape like

noggythenog · « **Reply #53 on:** 04 November 2015, 09:37:36 am »

Quote from: anutz on 04 November 2015, 09:30:35 am

Quote from: noggythenog on 04 November 2015, 09:06:27 am
Interesting point from Joe about rear sets.........i had them on my FZ1 & there was no ammount of adjusting that would make them comfortable.......but this was on an upright bike.

Guessing that Anutz is reasonably tall, above 5 foot 10.........then leg position may also play a part in deciding.

I suppose that with lying down you can then extend the legs backwards and perhaps there is a sportsbike out there that has a long hirizontal reach to the pegs.......mentioned this a few times before but i sat on an R1 once......i think it was only a few years old.....again i was surprised as to look at i thought theres no way that will be comfy but because i was lying down my feet on the rearsets felt quite natural as if i could happily lie there like a wild cat lying on a branch.

But yeh if i was looking for a sports bike i think thats what id do...measure the horizontal distance to the pegs.....they all have to have a certain distance vertically to stop grounding but nobody seems to mention the horizontal distance.

you flatter me noggy, i am 5 ft 9, and about as wide , i also seem to have short legs and a long body, so i look very strange...almost ape like

Thats alright mate........im a ferengi

Deefer666 · « **Reply #54 on:** 04 November 2015, 11:00:07 am »

Quote

'll give the Suzuki stick with every breath I draw purely because it is about as chav bling as you get ....BUT.... what an awesome piece of kit. Superb handling, superb engine.

Nah that's why they created the R6/R1.... to keep the chavs and the wankers off of gixxers

noggythenog · « **Reply #55 on:** 04 November 2015, 04:21:46 pm »

.....bit more classy....what id have...although im not classy

.

anutz · « **Reply #56 on:** 23 November 2015, 12:48:57 pm »

So i have one!!!!!

So far its extremely comfy just sitting on it and moving it around, but will need a ride.

Insuring it now!

JoeRock · « **Reply #57 on:** 23 November 2015, 01:27:06 pm »

Quote from: noggythenog on 04 November 2015, 09:06:27 am

Interesting point from Joe about rear sets.........i had them on my FZ1 & there was no ammount of adjusting that would make them comfortable.......but this was on an upright bike.

Guessing that Anutz is reasonably tall, above 5 foot 10.........then leg position may also play a part in deciding.

I suppose that with lying down you can then extend the legs backwards and perhaps there is a sportsbike out there that has a long hirizontal reach to the pegs.......mentioned this a few times before but i sat on an R1 once......i think it was only a few years old.....again i was surprised as to look at i thought theres no way that will be comfy but because i was lying down my feet on the rearsets felt quite natural as if i could happily lie there like a wild cat lying on a branch.

But yeh if i was looking for a sports bike i think thats what id do...measure the horizontal distance to the pegs.....they all have to have a certain distance vertically to stop grounding but nobody seems to mention the horizontal distance.

Other option Noggy - you can get jack up plates (poor mans rearsets) for nearly every bike off eBay. Just flip them to the other side and they're now down and back instead of up and forward. Quite a lot of the older guys have done that on the ZX9R forum so they can keep riding them at 70+!

sinto · « **Reply #58 on:** 23 November 2015, 07:48:19 pm »

Quote from: anutz on 23 November 2015, 12:48:57 pm

So i have one!!!!!

So far its extremely comfy just sitting on it and moving it around, but will need a ride.

Insuring it now!

Looks mint anutz, cracking find I think

But I would say, get your leathers on and give it a whirl and report back with your big grin on your face

anutz · « **Reply #59 on:** 23 November 2015, 07:52:36 pm »

its in very nice condition, very happy with it, need to get some drier weather, but i have been around the block on it a few times and it handles very nicely, i really like the riding position, but can understand why some do not.

noggythenog · « **Reply #60 on:** 23 November 2015, 10:35:42 pm »

Very nice Anutz, nice colour scheme

call me sensible but id be inclined to say just leave her until next season....you know you have her now and can look forward to all the hooning around with hot tyres and zero ice and grit and shit to spoil your fun.

I hate seeing other folk getting a new bike...makes me want to try something else damnit

Exupnut · « **Reply #61 on:** 23 November 2015, 10:40:00 pm »

Fuk me.....here we go ......

brewking · « **Reply #62 on:** 26 November 2015, 07:50:32 am »

I have a 1999 blue and white 750 SRAD and it is amazing. It is a different riding position but comfy for a sports bike. Way more power and speed, enough of a difference to justify having both. Feels special every time I ride it. Belly resting on the tank keeps weight off the wrists.

I am putting it up for sale so pm me if you are interested in trying it.

brewking · « **Reply #63 on:** 26 November 2015, 07:56:43 am »

Down to personal preference but I prefer it to the newer models as it has more character. It is also a low cost bike to own and maintain.

I suggest you test ride a few, new and old. Also watch baron von grumble riding an old lady on you tube.

anutz · « **Reply #64 on:** 26 November 2015, 03:47:38 pm »

So just been out for a 50 mile tootle, first real ride on it....just been up and down the road the past week as its been so bad weather wise.

First impressions, love the position for now, been out for 45 minutes and my back is fine ( i have a bad back, all sorts cracked and slipped ), did not have an issue with excess weight on my wrists, and no numbness in my hands, legs did a lot of the gripping on the massive tank etc...accessing the controls is easy enough and its really nice to be able to see whats behind me in the mirrors, they are very well positioned once adjusted.
Generally its so much easier than the FZS600 to ride. Throttle is easy to control, the power it has is lovely, its not flipping the front up all the time but am sure it will if you want it to, i over took some cars on a stretch of road i use a lot and it was so much more re-assured than the FZS 600, simply roll it on and its pulling...

took a few corners for me to learn how it wants to tip in and how different it feels from the FZS600 but after that its very easy to control and feel more stable on it than the FZS600, but then they are 2 totally different bikes, did open it up on one stretch that is basically a long left and then long right hander and i found myself naturally lying on the tank and in a more racey position, took no effort to get it to flick from side to side, before i knew it, i was through the bends.

It has an ohlins steering damper and ohlins read shock as well as uprated springs so its not stock for reference, i need to see how they are set but for now they seem to suit me fine.

But at least if anyone else is wondering so far, the FZS600 was my first bike after passing my tests ( i did it at 20 and never got a bike till this last Jan, i.e. 10 years since passing ) and the GSXR750 so far is by no means too much to handle, i had the concern any sports bike would be a handful, but for now its done as i asked and behaved nicely in town etc...

More to follow when i get on some proper roads, i suspect that will be an eye opener!

joebloggs · « **Reply #65 on:** 26 November 2015, 05:48:49 pm »

Quote from: anutz on 26 November 2015, 03:47:38 pm

But at least if anyone else is wondering so far, the FZS600 was my first bike after passing my tests ( i did it at 20 and never got a bike till this last Jan, i.e. 10 years since passing ) and the GSXR750 so far is by no means too much to handle, i had the concern any sports bike would be a handful, but for now its done as i asked and behaved nicely in town etc...

More to follow when i get on some proper roads, i suspect that will be an eye opener!

I don't think its the low speed acceleration that really makes that much difference between anything over 600cc its the way the more powerful bikes just keep going, 110, 120, 130, 140 etc almost as fast as you can say it and the speed at which you suddenly find yourself approaching your favorite bend is what makes the difference, first time I really opened up my ZX9 on one of my local roads I ended up slower through the corners simply because I over braked, my GPZ would be lucky to hit the ton between these to corners, on the 9 it would be closer to 150, mental.

Wait till next year bud, your going to love it

One down side which nobodies mentioned is the cost of keeping one of these in tires, if you use it in anger, you could be looking at sub 2000 miles out of a rear and I've never got much more out of a front.

Nice looking bike though

anutz · « **Reply #66 on:** 26 November 2015, 05:57:50 pm »

cannot wait till next year when its nicer weather.....as you say, suspect i will love it...been very restricted today as you can image, nice greasy patches every where, but when i got the chance it was a pleasure and so easy to get going...

agreed it just seems to pull and want to keep pulling, very nice....

i do ride pretty aggressive on the FZS600, and expect i may do so on this, so will keep an eye on the tyres...

noggythenog · « **Reply #67 on:** 11 December 2015, 08:34:17 pm »

Any updates anutz????

anutz · « **Reply #68 on:** 11 December 2015, 09:58:00 pm »

Hi noggy...

So not been out on it too much due to the weather BUT have managed a few quick runs on some faster and twisty roads, and its extremely easy to get into the corners and flick around, compared to the FZS 600 on the same roads, and gagging to get it out on the runs i usually do when the suns out, have been out in the damp and rain a bit as well but i do tend to wait for nicer days before i hit the country roads i usually enjoy.

Have been playing with the adjustable steering damper that was fitted, never had one to mess around with before and think i have found a good setting for me, surprised just how much resistance you can set dampers up with but sure there is a good reason when you are at higher speeds such as on a track, something i will try next year at Croft hopefully.

Main thing is still really liking the position as well, have done about 60 minutes so far in one go and actually had less issues than i would have had on the FZS600, legs doing a lot more work than the arms. No problems with cramp in my legs or my wrists, i sometimes used to get issues on the FZS 600 with both, and i think it was much easier to get thrown about on the FZS 600 under acceleration. The position really does want to pull you into leaning off the bike as well or moving around a lot more which i suppose is to be expected with the clipons. All in all feels much more natural way to ride a bike as opposed to up-right and its not caused my back any issues at all, in fact has taken some pressure off it.

One thing someone mentioned in the threard earlier was at certain speeds the air holds you up, and i found that on some of the fast roads, at reasonable speeds 40-50+ it was surprising how you end up having your weight taken by the air but not being pushed off the bike....

So in general going well, no nasty surprises, now we just need to weather to behave, it has not got a snorkel or skiis sadly

Hopefully i will be able to have a Christmas day ride like a few friends did last Christmas day to work on their bikes, where as i walked, hopefully not this year!

Anutz!

anutz · « **Reply #69 on:** 21 December 2015, 08:17:54 am »

Had a lovely day yesterday, cracking weather in the North East, went out on all my usual roads and really got to open the bike up, gobsmakked at how it flatters me lol, left friends for dead in some cases which the FZS could not do, and really nailed every corner, very confidence inspiring bike.

No real negatives at the moment and my initial worries of the change in type of bike have been settled....

anutz · « **Reply #70 on:** 23 May 2016, 02:55:10 pm »

Thought i would add an update...

So, have done around 5000 miles on the GSXR and i have enjoyed it, its fast, precise and very involving, but i also think that for me is what makes it a little too focused/aggressive for the road riding i do....

When i ride the GSXR its all about intensity, but the FZS600 has a lot of fun and practicality for me, and ...may be stating the obvious, and they are bikes built for different purposes...worth while experience and glad i bought it..

I will be keeping it, for the odd ride, and maybe try some track days...currently now considering a FZS1000.....or another naked 1000

Anutz

flakey · « **Reply #71 on:** 23 May 2016, 06:07:20 pm »

ive owned both, the gsxr will feel like its pulling your arms off when on full chat and just seems to rev forever, doing 140mph is piss easy and becomes a everyday occurance, brakes are stunning, I had to sell mine before it killed me and then bought a fzs600 to help me slow down, gsxr750 is lovely and smooth and extremely fast and a much better bike than I am rider

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1049605711718970&l=9be0a13e0f
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noggythenog · « **Reply #72 on:** 23 May 2016, 06:50:56 pm »

Good to hear updates....what about the comfort Anutz???

anutz · « **Reply #73 on:** 23 May 2016, 08:50:56 pm »

Quote from: noggythenog on 23 May 2016, 06:50:56 pm

Good to hear updates....what about the comfort Anutz???

so this is an interesting one..

On one hand i have had no issues with my back or neck, which i expected would drive me insane, after lots of long rides, no pain....with the issues i have in my lower back, sponylolithesis, i would have expected issues, but if anything the position for me allowed less pressure on the back, and lots of work done by the legs. It took some getting used to, but the benefits were obvious when at speed and cornering....low speed movement for me was an total pain in the ass, but its not means for that.

The only issue i had was that the operation of the throttle caused some weakness in my right pinky, and other fingers, Ulnar Nerve Entrapment is what i am told its called, and it can usually happen as the nerve gets pinched at the elbow or in the wrist, so i think, and my physio agrees, its in the wrist....i would feel such a stretch in the outside of my wrist and the fingers would be a little weak, the outside palm numb....

Literally after a week or two of consistent riding when i was on holidays, lots of 2-3 hour stints, flared it up, seems ok now but any more than an 1.5 hours and its niggles me, so i take a break, but its also less of an issue now i am relaxed on the bike and have got to grips with it, also i try to grip the throttle lower down my palm so less extension at the wrist is needed to open the throttle up...

So....good points, i.e. forces you into a position and angle to go "with" it...and before you know if you have finished the corners at speed.....very much feel like you are part of the bike....

bad, some issues with the throttle angle, at least in my case, but am sure all riders, in particular on a sports bike do have some niggles they work around.

will add more updates as i am sure i will have more mind changes....will add some more comments on Flakeys responses as its also a consideration

Anutz!

anutz · « **Reply #74 on:** 23 May 2016, 08:57:12 pm »

Quote from: flakey on 23 May 2016, 06:07:20 pm

ive owned both, the gsxr will feel like its pulling your arms off when on full chat and just seems to rev forever, doing 140mph is piss easy and becomes a everyday occurance, brakes are stunning, I had to sell mine before it killed me and then bought a fzs600 to help me slow down, gsxr750 is lovely and smooth and extremely fast and a much better bike than I am rider

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1049605711718970&l=9be0a13e0f
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i think the GSXR has made me aware of what bikes can do, and also improved my confidence and riding skills, but as you note, its willingness to perform effortlessly at speed is a consideration, its true its all in the wrist but reality is when you are on machines and in cars that have this type of power, things can get out of control very quickly even with best intentions. The FZS600 is slower as we all know, and riding them back to back shows it up, but then it still puts a smile on my face and i relax more when i am riding it than the GSXR....very glad i have it however for now, but just need to consider what is more sensible, i think i have had my "fix" of sports bikes for now and over the past 8 months has satisfied that curiosity......at least until the sun shines and i hear a sports bike fly down the bottom road!

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Anutz