Always look, even on green lights

[Punkstig]

So, this happened today, just thought I'd share!


http://youtu.be/qRt9CvkNoVI

[mickvp]

yikes. what a halfwit.

did well to spot that early there, could easily have nudged the side of his nice shiny Merc.

[ChristoT]

So, this happened today, just thought I'd share!


http://youtu.be/qRt9CvkNoVI

What a muppet! That was too close for comfort! 

[caretaker]

i hate the way people just wave as if its ok.

[The Gentleman Biker]

'kin 'ell!

[ChristoT]

As per my comment on the vid - can you make out his reg & report the twat?

[Punkstig]

I was obviously in a good mood, I'd have more than likely u turned and had a word with him otherwise!

[Frosties]

That was well worth a boot in the door Stiggy! Feckin Tw@!

[demic77]

With steely MX boots on...

[Hamos]

He waved his hand at you and avoided eye contact.  That makes it OK.

[fazersharp]

Now then you are right --- never trust a green light or a indicator for that matter.
Ok I dont do london riding ---------------- but it looks to me that you went on an amber and not green and you did shoot off that line too, so no suprise what happened
Sorry

[esetest]

Right or wrong it hurts the same .

[Fuzzy]

That's a hotspot, it happens there all the foccing time. The number of times that must have happened on my commute through there. Glad there was no contact!

PS. At least you didn't get blanked by Warwick Davis again lol 

[slimwilly]

It didnt happen probably because he expected it,,which is the only way a biker WILL stay safe,,always expect that sort of thing,,if it can happen then it will.


Be ready and enjoy your day

[Frosties]

That's a hotspot, it happens there all the foccing time. The number of times that must have happened on my commute through there. Glad there was no contact!

PS. At least you didn't get blanked by Warwick Davis again lol 

Until I read your comment Fuzzy I thought it was just one of those London things that happens anywhere.........but feck me I got it this morning at 6.30am  . Coming up to the lights and slowing (got down to about 10 mph) waiting for a change, they changed and had been on green for a good second or so when I went through at 25mph ish in 2nd. Low and behold a black 7 series wank mobile did the same to me as Stiggy. No time to brake so just swerved hard.


The plus side is those 7 series have 'kin large rear lights so was hard to miss with the toe of my boot and I think it would of been rude not to assist him in developing his future driving skills. Totally shattered the lens and laughed my nuts off on the rest of my trip to work.


Now the tricky bit - there's lots of cameras around so if numb nuts decided to approach the police and the incident was caught on video, what's my stance? Is it, "he ran a red & could've seriously injured me so yep I did it on purpose" orrrrrrrrr " sorry officer but the violent swerve to avoid him made my leg swing out"


Anyone had a similar him/me caught on video where you have deliberately sought revenge and had to state your case?


Any advice appreciated fellas.

[Punkstig]

Ok I dont do london riding ---------------- but it looks to me that you went on an amber and not green and you did shoot off that line too, so no suprise what happened
Sorry

Completely correct about the amber, and you are the first to mention it, however, 'shoot off the line' couldn't be further from fact.
The fish eye lenses distort speed massively, if I had then there's no way I would have stopped before a collision, that being said the light would have been red when the taxi went through let alone this dick afterwards, my light is green before the other guy passes the line, that's what 3 seconds on red for him?

[Punkstig]

Hello officer, I recklessly jumped a red light nearly hospitalising another road user, if it wasn't for his observations you'd be breathalising me right now and a colleague would be calling his family, however there appears to be damage sustained to my rear light cluster and,

And?

[Slaninar]

That's a hotspot, it happens there all the foccing time. The number of times that must have happened on my commute through there. Glad there was no contact!

PS. At least you didn't get blanked by Warwick Davis again lol 

Until I read your comment Fuzzy I thought it was just one of those London things that happens anywhere.........but feck me I got it this morning at 6.30am  . Coming up to the lights and slowing (got down to about 10 mph) waiting for a change, they changed and had been on green for a good second or so when I went through at 25mph ish in 2nd. Low and behold a black 7 series wank mobile did the same to me as Stiggy. No time to brake so just swerved hard.


The plus side is those 7 series have 'kin large rear lights so was hard to miss with the toe of my boot and I think it would of been rude not to assist him in developing his future driving skills. Totally shattered the lens and laughed my nuts off on the rest of my trip to work.


Now the tricky bit - there's lots of cameras around so if numb nuts decided to approach the police and the incident was caught on video, what's my stance? Is it, "he ran a red & could've seriously injured me so yep I did it on purpose" orrrrrrrrr " sorry officer but the violent swerve to avoid him made my leg swing out"


Anyone had a similar him/me caught on video where you have deliberately sought revenge and had to state your case?


Any advice appreciated fellas.

Sorry for making this a smart ass reply, but I can't help it. Here's the thing from my city's perspective:


1) Video evidence is kept for up to a week. No more room on the servers. So if a driver had say 2 people on board and reported me for breaking his stop light, the other two passengers could confirm. If I get the charge after more than a week (which is a reasonable time), video evidence would have been gone by the 7th day and it would be my word against 3 witnesses.


2) It is not your job to teach people to drive. There is the police, you can report. But doing justice on one's own is not very wise if you want to live long and good. In my city people tend to get out of cars with baseball bats, or guns, so getting into arguments, even if you're right and they're wrong is not productive at all. Idiots won't learn, they probably even know they're doing wrong.




I had a situation when I just flipped the bird to a rude driver and he stopped, got out of the car. I thought: what a stupid reason to get beaten, or sued for causing injuries - whatever happens I'm in trouble!


On another occasion, I was on a bicycle and a guy started pushing me off the road with a car (driving parallel with me and then turning towards the kerb slowly). I started banging with my hand on his car, but he didn't stop, so I had to brake, let him go ahead. The idiot didn't know he was doing anything wrong, he was angry for me hitting his car (but this one didn't stop to have a chat).


After those incidents, I always do this:







Just let it go.




Oh, and those lights: even when in a car - I always check for idiots running red light. Those things happen quite often. I either slow down to have a look, or have a bus/lorry by my side covering me.

[fazersharp]

Frosties if I were you I would change your post and just keep this bit         "sorry officer but the violent swerve to avoid him made my leg swing out" you never know who is reading. Also their could of been another driver filming from behind who has a thing against bikers.

PUNKSTIG I was a bit harsh and judgemental, you are clearly a experienced London biker, I take the point about the wide angle, and I suppose my zoom off at the amber light is as much a warning to others as it was comment on the incident, there used to be a tv advert about the dangers of being an amber - gambler. Are those lights set up wrong or somthing at that juction or did the last driver defo go through on a red.

Yoda speaks wise words and I like to use the long solw exagerated shake of the head in those circumstances. 

[Arfa]

Had a scary red light jumper moment a few weeks ago, over on a roundabout coming off A13 up Lodge Avenue, in East London.  Was one of them roundabouts where they have staged lights for each set of roads coming onto roundabout. I was waiting at the lights to go onto roundabout, lights go green, I'm off, but low and behold a huge articulated lorry carried on round the roundabout, through his red light! The lights had gone green so long ago I was far enough ahead to be out of the way, but the cars behind me all had to stick their anchors on to avoid going into the side of this lorry...

Again, this island is a hotspot for red light jumpers. It's not helped by being quite a tight round about, so if you're on the island, you don't see the red lights facing you until you're pretty much at them. This is also in East London/Essex where there is a disproportionately high number of shite drivers, many having bribed their way through their test, are wannabie boy racers or just plain stupid.

So yeah: red, amber, green, look twice then go! The danger is, if you do hare it off and then have to emergency stop, will the chap behind you also haring off be able to do an emergency stop and not mash you into the red light jumper? Better to hold back, before a second, so the guy behind you isn't also doing an emergency stop.

[Dave48]

Red light jumping isn't just confined to the capital. I see more & more drivers doing it in Birmingham/West Mids. where I live & travel daily.
Why is everyone in such a tearing hurry-what is so important that they risk life & limb to "save" a few seconds/minutes?
Was taught years ago by a wise man-check the junction, check the traffic, look & expect the unexpected. Its saved my skin a few times over the years. Green lights are like flashing indicators-they only mean the bulbs wo :eekrk!

[Lawrence]

What a bellend :| not uncommon though, I commute into Central London and lose count of the people jumping red lights each day.

[Frosties]

Hello officer, I recklessly jumped a red light nearly hospitalising another road user, if it wasn't for his observations you'd be breathalising me right now and a colleague would be calling his family, however there appears to be damage sustained to my rear light cluster and,

And?

Like it Stiggy 

That's a hotspot, it happens there all the foccing time. The number of times that must have happened on my commute through there. Glad there was no contact!

PS. At least you didn't get blanked by Warwick Davis again lol 

Sorry for making this a smart ass reply, but I can't help it. Here's the thing from my city's perspective:


1) Video evidence is kept for up to a week. No more room on the servers. So if a driver had say 2 people on board and reported me for breaking his stop light, the other two passengers could confirm. If I get the charge after more than a week (which is a reasonable time), video evidence would have been gone by the 7th day and it would be my word against 3 witnesses.


2) It is not your job to teach people to drive. There is the police, you can report. But doing justice on one's own is not very wise if you want to live long and good. In my city people tend to get out of cars with baseball bats, or guns, so getting into arguments, even if you're right and they're wrong is not productive at all. Idiots won't learn, they probably even know they're doing wrong.




I had a situation when I just flipped the bird to a rude driver and he stopped, got out of the car. I thought: what a stupid reason to get beaten, or sued for causing injuries - whatever happens I'm in trouble!


On another occasion, I was on a bicycle and a guy started pushing me off the road with a car (driving parallel with me and then turning towards the kerb slowly). I started banging with my hand on his car, but he didn't stop, so I had to brake, let him go ahead. The idiot didn't know he was doing anything wrong, he was angry for me hitting his car (but this one didn't stop to have a chat).


After those incidents, I always do this:







Just let it go.




Oh, and those lights: even when in a car - I always check for idiots running red light. Those things happen quite often. I either slow down to have a look, or have a bus/lorry by my side covering me.

Slani - your first reply is top notch and much appreciated fella!


I ride into & across London every day and always check for idiots but this one caught me out, really pissed me off and was by far the worst ever.


Having said that, I can't disagree with your comments and normally do let it go...........now & again, it's just sometimes the red mist gets the better!

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[noggythenog]

A guy just about came close to wiping me out about 5 minutes ago.




I was going round the inside of a standard sized 3 exit roundabout, tonnes of visibility all round...i seen him hoofing it on in the Land Rover as if to slingshot & go off the first exit i had already backed off....he didnt see me until he was already in the middle of the roundabout......if he kept going he woulda been fine but when he finally seen me he shit himself and anchored on......so we both ended up stopped on the roundabout.




I could tell he was gutted...youngish guy & it was a work land rover....he was apologising profusely & i was like shaking my head as if to say look just dont worry about it...get outta my way...he kept apologising...so..well i gave him the thumbs up the poor fucker....i think he learned big time & will be looking out for bikes...he is the type of bloke to take it seriously & have a word with himself & like with stig the responsibility really is on us to be looking out for this type of stuff.




I didnt even get pissed off.........but some snobby arsehole not giving a shit would have been a totally different kettle of fish.......we all make mistakes...but these type arent making mistakes.....it is the way they constantly are....foccin oxygen thiefs.

[Dead Eye]

Glad you kept it shiny side up... even if I can't figure out what actually happened :|