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Fazer8 / FZ8 / Re: FZ8 aftermarket cans?
« on: 28 December 2011, 07:52:07 pm »
This?




Looks nice, good price too.

There are more bits and pieces coming out for the bike now.

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Events, Meets, Ride outs etc / Re: nxt years big ride.hmmm
« on: 26 December 2011, 10:58:13 am »
I've been to Germany several times. They are keen bikers and you always get a good welcome at hotels & B&Bs. No skanky flea ridden places either, even cheaper priced places are good and you nearly always get a nice breakfast.

You've got the whole area from SE of Aachen through the Eifel area, down through the Moselle area around Cochem, Saarland, a flat boring bit over the Rhine valley and then you are into the Black Forest all the way down to Lake Constance.

I've been to Sachsenring 3 times and Lausitzring twice and have found some good roads on route. If you pencil off the area bordered by Cologne, Arnsberg, Paderborn, Harz mountains, Efurt, Bamberg, Wurtzburg, Mainz, Koblenz, Bonn, you'll find some nice countryside and good roads. Just stay off the autobahns and major roads unless you need to get somewhere quickly.  Ive passed through several routes through that area on my way to the races.
The area around Munich is very flat and uninspiring on a bike.
I've also been down the CZ border area from Bayreuth to Passau which is good. Last year I went down there and continued to Linz then south through central Austria to Slovenia. The west and south west area in Slovenia I wanted to go to was hit by a storm so I avoided that and went futher south then east. It was ok, but not great. Then back north to Vienna through the eastern side of Austria.
I've also been to Austria before on my way to Brno in CZ and have found the Alpes on the western side around Landeck/Innsbruck/Zell am See to be dramatic in scenery but wet. The rest of the country is still hilly and has better weather. There also seems less traffic on the roads if you stay away from the bigger cities.
Austria is also good for VFM hotels and B&Bs away from the bigger cities which are a bit pricier.

The parts of CZ which border Austria and Germany are also nice areas, the towns tend to have an old historical city and a newer concrete highrise flats town area. Sometimes you arrive at a town through the concrete jungle and think this is a shit place, then go through the old town walls and its a different place completely. Ceske Krumlov in particular is worth visiting.

The Belgium Ardennes area is worth a visit. Some roads are bumpy through.

I've also been through northern Luxembourg a few times. Petrol is cheap as Luxembourgs have low tax on it, 30 cents/litre cheaper. You know when you reach the border as there are 10's of pertrol stations in a row for the Belgium/Germans to cross the border and fill up.

I've always left deciding the actual route to the day before as the weather can be variable. Going to Slovenia last year I went the way I was intended to come back, and came back the way I was going to go, sort of. I've always found hotels en-route rather than pre-book for that reason. The only time I book in advance is for a race meeting. I've got caught out once in the Harz where there was a huge craft fair and everywhere was booked for miles. The 1st hotel I asked at said best go 30k away. Another time in Germany at touristy Altenahr in the Eifel it took a 7 or 8 hotels/pensions to get a place. I usually go outside of school holidays.


Short trip to Belgium Ardennes, Eifel/Westerwald and back through Luxembourg last year in April.
http://www.photobox.co.uk/slideshow?album_id=759028776

Slovenia/Austria/Gemany trip
http://www.photobox.co.uk/slideshow?album_id=803948169

Nurburgring for WSB then a meander to the Black Forest then north to Edersee where the weather forecast looked ok
http://www.photobox.co.uk/slideshow?album_id=891822444

If anones got any info on Slovakia I'd appreciate it. Looking on the map the northern half looks interesting.

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Introduction / Re: FZ8 in Grimsby
« on: 14 December 2011, 09:08:03 pm »
Yes I meant it as a joke if anyone's wondering.


I like the look of the Remus Powercone, it looks cool with clean lines on 1000's Ive seen it on,  but sadly they haven't made a version for the 800.

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Introduction / Re: FZ8 in Grimsby
« on: 14 December 2011, 06:57:56 pm »
Nice choice of bike!

Apparently 50% of Fazer8/FZ8 owners on the forum have fitted one of these and are delighted with the results.



 

Mivv site
http://www.motorcycle-exhausts.co.uk/MiVV_Ghibli_Yamaha_FZ8Fazer_8_201011--product--11651.html

http://www.brspecialtuning.co.uk/MiVV%20exhausts.htm

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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Which can - FZ1?
« on: 12 December 2011, 11:37:48 pm »
The joins on my can are really neatly done. I'll take some pics of mine when the sun comes out on a weekend .... could be a while yet.  With the baffles in it adds a bit of noise without being too loud. Guess thats a subjective thing. Another Fazer8 owner I see down Poole Quay occasionally said he took the baffles out but it was too loud. Seeing the quality and hearing it made my mind up.

Looking at the FZ1 link pipe there is a couple of extra tubes, not sure what thats there for. Exup valve? Dont know.

http://www.mivv.it/risorse/8/206/370/Y023_GHIBLI_SCHEMATIC.pdf


The Fazer8 doesn't have an Exup or those extra bits in the link pipe.


 

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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: Which can - FZ1?
« on: 12 December 2011, 08:27:03 pm »
Have you seen the Mivv Ghibli can, £283. Not exactly stubby, bit look neat,  imo. I've got one on my Fazer8 and I'm impressed by the build quality. Cant grumble about the price either compared to some other cans.

http://www.brspecialtuning.co.uk/MiVV%20exhausts.htm




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General / Re: Halvarssons gear - rate or slate?
« on: 12 December 2011, 08:07:11 pm »
I've used leathers + waterproof oversuit suit for the last 19 years but this year have had a lot of days of showers and go fed up with oversuit on/of/on/off etc.  so splashed out on some Halvarssons gear in October, the Outlast range I think.  Ive only used them in rain once and no leaks, guess I should go out and test them in this shitty weather, but think I'll give it a miss.
They do seem very well made.
The thin thermal lining impressed me,  it was really warm and I was riding with just a t-shirt underneath until recently.
I went down to Magny Cours where it was unseasonably warm 27c. The vents didn't seem to do much, but would work if the waterproof liner was taken out. Although that wouldn't help with the hot showery days.

So far I rate them.

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Fazer8 / FZ8 / Re: 2012 FZ8 in 'Anniversary White'
« on: 12 December 2011, 07:51:03 pm »
I dont understand why they haven't bought out that scheme on the Fazer8. Any Yamaha with the speedblock scheme looks cool.

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Fazer8 / FZ8 / Re: So have yamaha sold any 8's ?
« on: 12 December 2011, 07:49:32 pm »
I bought one as soon as they came out.

I used to have an XJR1300 and Street Triple. I part ex'd both for the Fazer 800 as I wanted a comfy sports tourer with some wind protection. The XJR was good for touring but not too throwabout in the twisties, the Street Triple was the other way. The Fazer8 is a decent compromise between the two.

I've had it since August 2010 and have done 17,000 miles now.  It might not have the same grunt as the XJR as you would expect, but there is plenty. Peak torque is at  8,000 rpm so doesn't need a lot of revs like a lot of sports bike engines.  I'm not too sure where the top end rush is, according to Yamaha's sales blurb there should be one, but there isn't. Between 6-10,000 revs there is enough power to get me where I want to go as quick as I want so not too bothered.

The fairing is nice and wide, wider than the 600/1000 Fazers, and with the touring screen its very good. No flies on my jacket anymore and no buffeting on the helmet. It makes touing a lot more comfortable.

Fuel consumption is good, I get 50-55 mpg on mine, which is around 150-165 miles until the fuel light comes on after 3 gallons used. I quite like the trip which comes on telling you how many miles you've done since the light comes on. The furthest I've been on a tankfull is 195 miles and was pleased to see the petrol station.

The softer suspension is great on bumpy roads, no jolting or out of the seat moments. I prefer to go the scenic routes when touing and have the time so often the road surface is often less than perfect and it works well enough. Whacking the rear pre-load up helps to stop some of the initial soggyness. It would be nice to have fully adjustable suspension, but I probably wouldn't adjust it that far from what it is now for my riding although I think the rear could do with a bit more rebound damping. I've not thought of getting an after market shock as it doesnt really warrant the money. I think it would be fairly shit around a track as the suspension is so soft and the pegs would deck out to early, but I dont do track days any longer so aren't bothered. As long as you are smooth on the throttle and brakes on the road its no problem there either.

It only comes with ABS brakes, if there had been an option of not having ABS I would have taken that. After bedding the pads in I tried them out on a bumpy back road yanking them on as hard as I could. The bike dived down due to the soft forks, the tyres squealed and the bike stopped as quick as I would have liked. After having the bike for so long and riding in some bad weather I think if there is the option of ABS or not I would go for them now.

There are some decent bungy points to tie luggage to. I wish the pillion grab handles were 2 inches longer at the back to tie straps to though. As a recent addition I put a rack and top box on which doesn't exactly enhance the looks but is very handy. Bit of a pisser having to remove a bit of plastic from the seat unit to fit the rack though, very un-Japanese like, but it was an easy task with a hot knife. Only £200 for the Yamaha rack and box was good.

It came with BT021 tyres originally, which are fine sport touring tyres. Bridgestone now have BT023 replacing them and I thought it was a bit cheap of Yamaha not supplying the bike with those. When I replaced the tyres, BT021s were still available at £25 less, so I bought them again.

No real issues with the bike reliability wise. It was a bit slow to start once when left unused for a few weeks. The injection system needs maximum volts, so its now left on the trickle charger all the time when not in use. I also had to top up the coolant with distilled water as it went below the lower limit in a hot Germany. It hasn't lost any more since. No rust anywhere, and the chain and sprockets still look fine, I only have to adjust the chain every 2,000 miles.

Servicing is cheap enough at Poole Motorcycles and they are only a mile away. Valve clearances are at 24,000 miles and wont cost me much. I couldn't believe the price Triumph charge for theirs every 12,000 miles.

The bike came in for a bit of stick in magazine tests for 'only' being a sleeved down 1000 motor, but if you think of it as a non race 750 engine its fine. I was quite glad it shares parts with the FZ1 as in Germany in 2010 I had a dumb 20 mph off on wet tram lines and the start motor cover cracked on the corner of the tram line. As the bike had only been out a couple of months I was worried spare parts may not have been available (I had to wait 4 months for the centre stand when I bought the bike), but a new cover, same as the FZ1, was dispatched and turned up next day.

Downsides are the dip in torque at 5,000 rpm. Its quite noticable, and if you want to overtake quickly at lower speeds you need it at 6000 rpm. If its at 5000 in 4th and it takes a while to pull through to 6000. I guess its all down to reducing emissions/noise to pass the tests.  After having the bike for 15 months I put a Mivv Ghibli end can on, which looks neat, sounds good with baffles in, and it gets rid of the dip in torque. It provides a bit of character, something the bike lacks engine wise.  With the new can fitted, there is little in the way of exhaust, the box containing the catalytic converter is small. Some bikes these days have huge ugly metalwork in the exhaust system.
Shame it doesn't have the torque curve of Suzuki's GSR750.

The seat could be a bit better for long distances. I've had a gel pad put in and now its a little better, 2 - 2 1/2 hours before twitchy bum sets in. What I like about the set is its narrower at the front than the back. Going around the corners if you sit forward on the narrower part it feels better, then for comfort if you are on a straighter road move back a couple of centimetres to the wider more comfortable part.

Price wise is was expensive, but I got a load of extras at cost price, touring screen, alarm, datatag, heated grips and they took my XJR1300 in part-ex and it had 50,000 miles on the clock. I think trying to sell that privately might have been tricky. I see they are a grand cheaper this year.

You dont see too many around in the UK, but in France I noticed quite a few at Magny Cours WSB. They tend to go for the naked versions over there.

Must take one with the can on and loverly top box.



 


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Introduction / Fazer8 owner
« on: 12 December 2011, 07:47:55 pm »
Thought this forum could do with some pro-Fazer8 posts :D

Cheers,

Phil

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