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General => General => Topic started by: ddtwelve on 16 March 2012, 07:44:51 pm
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im so pissed off the other day went to the esso station just outside doncaster on the wakey road just after picking fiance from work 1020pm got to forecourt lifted nozzle off then a snotty little kid over tannoy can you take your helmet off, so the nearly new missus with flip lid went upto window with lid up asking why , and the git said for his own safety arrr, then he said we ' both 'had to take are helmet off the previous week i had no problems at that time except the women casheir locked the door which didnt bother me, so fuming wanting to rip the kids head off put nozzel back and went to station a mile up the road with a women casheir who wasent bothered :lol (but petrol was 3p a liter more
anyone had any problems like this
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To be honest, If I was alone in a petrol station at 10.30 at night I'd say the same thing.
My local Esso has a lids off policy so I don't use it.
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i cant see the problem with his safety the door locked and him sat behind inch thick bullet proof glass, poor me in the cold just got nice and warm having to get cold again
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My regular filling station at Sainsbury's implemented a similar policy a few years ago after a spate of shop robberies by people wearing crash helmets to hide their faces.
I found it a nuisance, wrote to their head office explaining why and pointed out that a notice on the door wasn't likely to stop helmeted thugs entering the shop to rob them anyway. I also suggested that they could let bikers pay at the "night pay" window. They wrote back saying they'd think about it and a few weeks later dropped the policy.
It may be that Esso have had a lot of petrol thefts and don't have ANPR cameras in which case they probably won't respond to protests about the inconvenience to bikers. They're not obliged to sell you petrol if they don't want to and the profit on 18 litres of fuel isn't something they'll lose any sleep over. At least with a supermarket chain you can threaten to do your grocery shopping elsewhere too!
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Where a Burka under your helmet next time you go in there. That'll fok em right up.
:lol
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Where a Burka under your helmet next time you go in there. That'll fok em right up.
:lol
:rollin
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SHHHH, all the stations round here used to have the no lids policy. but over the last year they seem to have relaxed it and i havent been challanged for ages.
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I always take mine off anyway (one reason I prefer a safety-buckle strap to D-rings). Don't really see the big deal :\
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Flip-Up Lid, no problem
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are lass had a flip up and the @xxx kid asked us both to take our lids off wont be going there again
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I normaly wear a balaclava under the lid, or at least a neck snood over head and mouth.
oddly when i filled up the other day in kent i took lid off and payed with the balaclava on lol, not a word was said. but the attendant did seem a little shakey :P
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I had the same thing happen to me a few years ago, that was an Esso station too.
I took my lid off and he had to serve me, even though I was wearing a balaclava and made him look a tit in front of half a dozen customers :D
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There are too many coincidences in my life at the moment, you posting that ghostbiker at the same time is just the latest in a string of 'em.
It's a sign...we're doomed!!!..or maybe it's just me? :)
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Ive said this before, use the Pay At The Pump systems....
That way no need to take your lid off and you dont even have to get off your bike to pay :rollin
to be fair i have a garage across the road from my house, he makes everyone take their lid off except for me... ive been going there with my car and bike for 7 years though so i dont think hes too bothered....
although few weeks ago one garage made my missus take off her lid to pay while i filled up, but then let me go into the shop and use the toilet with my lid still on..... i think some have cameras by the tills and so they have to see full face.... but i agree with the Burka thing... try it next time :lol
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I always take mine off anyway
I do too, I just consider it polite and frankly taking it off and putiting it back on adds less than a minute to the time you spend there which, as you say, isn't really a big deal.
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.... but i agree with the Burka thing... try it next time
But it's a no lids policy, NOT a no burka's policy gggrrrr......
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My local station never asks me to remove mine as they know me and my bike. I've offered to remove mine at petrol stations and they've just told me not to bother and everything is fine. If asked at a station I don't normally frequent I will take it off.
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Taking my lid off and puting back on again is a bit more inconvenient, due to the fact that I have hair, quite a lot of it,
so lid off = strip down and getting dressed again.
And where are you suppsed to put your expensive lid down anway?
I've had this happen loads around here. So what I do now when asked to take it off before I can fill up is;
Lid off, fill up, tube and jacket off, re-tie hair, jacket etc back on, walk to pay desk WHILST PUTTING MY LID BACK ON :lol :lol
and see if they refuse to accept my money.
I know, childish, immature, etc but if they can be twats, so can I. :b
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Bullet proof glass? Lol, seriously? Not at my local BP! I think if you work in a 24 hour station then the no lid policy is just fine. If you have nothing to hide, you shouldn't mind right?
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I had the manager of Morrisons ask me once to remove my open face helmet instore as I was paying. I asked him two questions.
Question one - Can you please take me to the sign at the entrance where is clearly states that store policy requires customers to remove helmets before entering? His answer, "erm, no, we don't have one". I informed him that this is a legal requirement, and if it is not stated, I am not obligated to remove it.
Second question - If I was wearing a Burka, would you refuse to serve me? His answer "No, of course not", to which I responded "So, to clarify, you are a bigot, racist who is unaware of his job and coming up with ideas above his station? Do you really want to take this to the next level, or would you rather just apologize now and walk away?" He did.
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My brother and me pulled into a fuel station one time, I got off the bike to fuel up and he stayed on his to fill up. I got served with out a problem, he on the otherhand was told to remove his helmet before he could be served! After much grumbling he took it off and put it on the pump, it was a windy day that day and of course the wind caught his lid and off it went bouncing down the road, so next time someone asks me to remove my lid, I'll just move on to the next station or get off my bike, take my lid off, take it inside and ask them to look after it whilst I fuel up.
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Taking my lid off and puting back on again is a bit more inconvenient, due to the fact that I have hair, quite a lot of it,
Err, so do I, in a pony tail. When I'm out riding I stick a second pony tail band at the bottom.
Yes, it gets messed up a bit when I take my lid off, but it doesn't bother me.
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And where are you suppsed to put your expensive lid down anway?
(Missed this bit on the first post, looks like the Mods still don't trust us kiddies with an edit button)
I usually put mine on the flat top of the pump or on the plinth it stands on.
If you're worried about it being mucky, put your gloves down first, palms up, and put the lid on those.
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What??
Put my gloves down on the crappy dirty floor where all the idiot diesel buyers have spilt their muck and get my gloves covered in crap instead??
Sod that. :lol
Flat top pumps?? What them then? Not round here much mate.
God, Grahamm, sometimes you are so reasonable it makes me want to puke! :pokefun
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I think it is impolite to leave one's hat, not to mention helmet, on when entering premises. I always take it off. Put it in my topcase, or carry it in my hand (don't like bikes that don't have topcases :) ).
It was interesting once I entered a bank in a hurry and took my helmet just at the door... while wearing balaclava underneath. The look on staff's faces: priceless! :rollin
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I always use 'pay at the pump' as my local Morrisons makes me take my lid off...
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I only mind when the sign is on the door, should be on the pump then you
have a choice to carry on lidless or leave
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I fueled up the other day, went in to pay, put my helmet on the counter and got done for indecent behavior :rollin
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Helmet off every time I fill up, not a problem.
As to where to put your helmet, simples, pillion foot peg. :think
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The 'helmet off' thing seems to evoke a lot of different responses. The reasons given by the filling station are often a bit vague, and usually revolve around being robbed. I'm sure a robber doesn't fill up his bike then walk to the kiosk, wallet in hand. And if they're nicking stuff, aren't they likely to be in a car?
Another reason I've been given is because of drive-offs and being able to identify the person involved. Again a little dubious on that front - how much fuel does a bike hold versus a car, and I'll wager there are more car drive-offs than bike ones.
As you taking your hat off, there's seldom anywhere to put a helmet safely while you're fuelling, and sitting it in the spilt fuel on the ground doesn't seem a good idea, nor does balancing it on the seat.
In the winter, you've sealed yourself in to your kit to keep warm so the last thing you want to do is take off your hat and lose that warmth.
Some filling stations won't switch on the pump if you're still sat astride your bike, and I get that one completely - I really don't want to be pouring highly flammable liquid between my legs: if something goes wrong I want to get as far away as possible as quick as I can! And I think that's got more potential to indicate drive-off intentions.
I know the stations locally to avoid, and I do. I've written to one of them explaining that in the bitterly cold weather I'd rather not freeze my ears off, and got a letter back from the forecourt manager saying he was also a biker and didn't see the problem... I guess he's not an all-year biker...
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i must say, i rode home last nightfrom work, or should say sunday morning and reached the local 24hr garage around 4am, i did for once catch the young girls attention and ask her if she wanted to take my lid off, she greatfully said yes please but let me sit on the bike, once she saw i was female though she also said at the window "we dont get many women riding, dont worry about your helmet next time"
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so that's the answer? speak in a falsetto, wear lippy and have a couple of melons down the front of your jacket.
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I,m always asked to put my helmet back on and close the visor ?
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I never take my lid off and have never been asked to. BUT, what I do is park bike and put on centre stand. Take one glove off and take wallet out from pocket and place on the bike. I always feel this shows the intention to not quickly ride off (i have to put glove back on and take off centre stand) plus maybe they see the wallet.
Might be coinsidence but as I say, helmet always stays on.
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Have not been out on the bike for a while but went to my local ASDA (now ESSO station) helmet on front up dark visor down sat on the bike gloves off filled up drove off to park by the doors paid no comments what so ever. Would I take it off ? well with the front up and visor up I would argue the point when they could see as much of my face as if I had a Baseball cap on, if there was a sign depending if I was desperate or not maybe find another station, no sign pump authorised then asked to take it off in the shop (depending on the mood I was in) I may refuse but offer to pay, hold my card out showing to the cameras that I am attempting to pay and if they refuse it that is their fault either wait for plod, ask them again to take my payment or leave, from what I would have thought if I have offered to pay and it has been refused then it is not theft (no doubt I am wrong on this and will be told so soon) but after all I can not force a debit card onto them if it was cash you could drop the cash on the desk and walk off (on camera obviously)
The way I look at it is give the relevent information on the pump to allow me to make the choice, after all they manage to display accepted payment methods so why not helmet policy. May be just me being a git but cold wet days can be a pain in the ass esp if you have a D ring rather than the quick release strap.
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i filled up at tesco on Saturday using the pay at the pump thing. any way......i sprayed my self in the face with petrol (dont ask how). it went it my eyes and made my face burn like buggery!
I had my lid on with my visor open, if i had of had my visor closed i would of been o.k
therefore filling up with your helmet on and visor closed is a good idea.
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I always take my lid off, gloves off, get off the bike, put it on it's centre stand and then fill up. I think it does show common courtesy, and I wouldn't wear a hat indoors either, or have a hood up.
Just to show some respect to the attendants who, lets face it, probably put up with enough shit from stupid people being rude and impatient with them all day.
However, I do get really annoyed with car drivers getting impatient while I put all my gear back on before I ride away. It's not like I have never been held up waiting for a pump to become free while someone does lots of shopping, fiddles with the phone or struggles to remember how the flippin thing works. . . . . . . .
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before anyone gets too high and mighty...a petrol forecourt is private property...we dont have any right to be allowed to fill up. If a station wants to introduce a no helmet rule, its down to them.Legally they do not have to serve us...and can ask us to leave for any reason they choose.
The only way to really protest is to complain to the head office or boycott such garage.But as already stated, for the tiny amount of fuel we use, we R small potatoes ...I was asked to remove my helmet at a morrisons, which at the time did seem a bit annoying, but their fuel is alway sthe cheapest in the area, so to my mind its now a condition of sale !...at my normal garage I am there so often they never ask me to remove helmet. Supermarkets also tend to have students operating cash tills, and they do like a bit of power...it goes maybe to some of their heads ! ;)
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maybe not pitternator but they have lost a load of revenue off me and my friends/colluegues and fellow bikers as i drive as well and the missus rides her own bike,
i say again he asked me and the missus to take our helmets off which he had no right to ask the pillion passenger who also had a flip lid on open
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I never take my lid off and have never been asked to. BUT, what I do is park bike and put on centre stand. Take one glove off and take wallet out from pocket and place on the bike. I always feel this shows the intention to not quickly ride off (i have to put glove back on and take off centre stand) plus maybe they see the wallet.
Might be coinsidence but as I say, helmet always stays on.
This is almost what I do, but wallet stays in my jacket pocket! Only ever been asked once to take my lid off -- the first and last time I ever used a Tesco petrol station.
However, I don't get why bikers go into shops etc. leaving lids on. I always remove mine when actually shopping.
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My problem is that I wear (expensive) glasses. It's not so bad taking a helmet off, but I find that I need to put the glasses down briefly when I put my helmet back on. Garage forecourts are often quite windy, and the last thing I can afford to have is my glasses blowing away and getting scratched on the ground. Because of this I tend not to remove my helmet, but I can honestly say that I've never had any problems (or even comments or unfriendly looks from filling station staff), even when there has been a sign on the door requiring helmets to be removed. I live in Weston-super-Mare, where they must get a fair bit of out of town trade in the summer, but it really hasn't been a problem in practice. When I'm touring further afield I'm with my husband anyway, so he usually goes to pay. As he doesn't have the same problem as me, i.e. doesn't wear glasses, and is a big bloke who people could possibly find threatening, he does remove his lid.
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Quote "I do too, I just consider it polite and frankly taking it off and putiting it back on adds less than a minute to the time you spend there which, as you say, isn't really a big deal."
At the end of the day, we are the first ones to complain about other people who are short of manners & particularly about the foreigners who have the burka, which is another issue, or even hoodies around the town.
It’s all to do with Respect.
If we as Bikers Respect others, even if it means removing the helmet, this act is noticed by the people that matter. We have nothing to hide, do we?
Plus it gives us the moral high ground in our own eyes, In other words, Self Respect.
Sadly lacking today as some have commented.
I have a flip up helmet, and I flip it up at every time. Not once have I been asked to remove this, anywhere.
That may well be cos of the bike I'm riding. :rollin
It demands respect...
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Similar issues here in Cornwall at some Shell and Sommerfield's . In one case I was asked to move to another pump as they could not see me properly. I regard it as to much hassle and go to stations without this policy. I wrote to the manager of Shell , he gave me the people needing to be over 16 to get fuel excuse , i wrote back telling him this was a crap excuse and that he could probably live without my weekly £50 pittance. Write to these stations HQ ,tell them their policy is nonsense
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I personally remove it anyway for the minute or so it takes. I have used open-face lids and left them on without a problem, though I tend to use the same filling station anyway and they tend to recognise me (or the bike) anyway.
That said, one filling station round the corner from me was robbed at gunpoint about 6 months ago (female cashier on own and late at night). The "gun" was an imitation and incapable of firing, but if you're face-to-face with that, would you know? Or wish to find out? A 16 year old and an 18 year old locked up this week for said robbery.
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Quote "I do too, I just consider it polite and frankly taking it off and putiting it back on adds less than a minute to the time you spend there which, as you say, isn't really a big deal."
At the end of the day, we are the first ones to complain about other people who are short of manners & particularly about the foreigners who have the burka, which is another issue, or even hoodies around the town.
Excuse me, but I believe (even though you haven't attributed them) you're quoting my words there, however whilst I might complain about people's lack of manners, I most certainly *DO NOT* complain about "foreigners who have the burka or hoodies around the town", so please don't suggest that I do.
If we as Bikers Respect others, even if it means removing the helmet, this act is noticed by the people that matter. We have nothing to hide, do we?
WTF has "nothing to hide" got to do with anything?? As I said, I take off my lid because I consider it to be polite, no other reason.
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This IMHO has nothing to do with respect or nothing to hide or even the moral high ground, if there is a sign on the pump along with the Cards accepted no under 16's no mobiles no smoking etc saying please remove helmets that's one thing but not having those signs and not having the pump authorised along with a voice on the tannoy telling me to remove my helmet MAKES me look like a possible criminal or suspect person which enforces the stereotypical image of a biker to every other person on the forcourt, now that is disrespect, this is made worse when I am wearing a flip which is up, and compounded by wearing ear plugs with my bad hearing making it hard to hear the announcement especially with some of the crappy tannoy systems garages have in place.
If they want helmets removed place signage to that effect AT THE PUMP I can then choose to use that garage or not use that garage. Yes it only adds a little time to remove and replace the helmet but it takes time waiting to be asked to remove it on bad days you get cold and wet even on covered forcourts especially if you are on the outside pumps. If they think you are a drive off risk have the ANPR cameras facing the rear of the vehicles after all CARS also have plates on the rear and as mentioned before the fuel capacity on a bike compared to a car is very small who would do a drive off and take the risk for such a small amount of fuel ?
Also mentioned that garages can do with out the small amount of money lost from you not going there but how many bikers are there in this country? so would say Esso miss it if every bike boycotted their stations I think the answer would be yes this could be made worse by every biker then also writing a complaint letter to the offending supplier.
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girlfriend being to said petrol staion as its the cheapest around and walked round to see if there any stickers with take your helmets off nothing on pumps until you get to shop door where it says when entering the shop take your helmet off, so in theory i have the right when at the pump not to take my helmet off? ;)
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Wear a burka over your crash helmet?
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ts weird so many peps have problems i live in a dodgy part of north london never take off me lid and never have problems [/size]. only once when walking through BRENT CROSS shopping centre was asked to remove me lid by some security guard told him to feck off & walked away didn't get hassled after :lol [/color]
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:eek well im jnkjnnbkndn off are lass went again to the same station tonite and low and behold the same snotty kid on the till saying the same thing, but previous months we had no problems until this kid was on, ive sent a email off to esso for there so called company policy about forecourts and lids lets see if they return my email :D then watch this space as one snotty nose kid gets the sack or a nice knucle sandwich hehe from the missus
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i know someone who gets snotty when asked to remove his helmet when filling up at "pay at the pump" pumps.
He does the simpple thing - gets back on his bike and rides away.....................leaving the nozzle lying on the garage forecourt. If hes really grumpy, he maybe lifts off the other side pump and lies that down too.
me - i always take the helmet off when paying in shop.
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bikers just dont like being told what to do ,and any excuse for moaning they are being discriminated against...next I spose someone will moan why we have to wear crash helmets in the first place !....
just do as you are feckin told ! Its a condition of sale, its their petrol...dont go there if u dont like it . End of... :b
oh and I once got asked at a morrisons to take my helmet off. I did so of course, happy to do so, so they could see my boyish good looks. ;)
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Are we all not getting a little bit over excited about the simple act of removing your helmet? I like to take mine off for a breath of fresh air, if you have hair problems and getting it back in then perhaps it's time for a bit of a trim :) No.3 on top, No. 2 sides and back, taper neck please :P
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Star Wars Episode VI Vaders Death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n4x0NJqQGs#)
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Are we all not getting a little bit over excited about the simple act of removing your helmet? I like to take mine off for a breath of fresh air, if you have hair problems and getting it back in then perhaps it's time for a bit of a trim :) No.3 on top, No. 2 sides and back, taper neck please :P
oh how I wish I had enough hair for a #3 on top!!!!
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Never had the problem but I do wear a flip front which I generally flip up when stopped but as Pittt says doesn't take more than a minute or two max to take a bash hat off and on. Look at it from their point of veiw no cctv recognition with a helmet on and they don't know if the bike is on a false plate or even if the bike is robbed or not unfortunately bilking seems an everyday occurance maybe due to high fuel prices.
I blame the Government. :rollin
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The problem is this kid our lass goes to same petrol station each week and I've been too never had a problem till this kid came on citing company policy , so if he's stating that are the other 6 pump attendants wrong ?
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I never take my lid off to fill up and would go to another garage if asked. I dont like balancing it on the bike and would never put it on the floor or on the pump as they are contaminated with petrol however clean they may look. I know this as my family used to run a few Esso locations and still have one in the depths of Kent.
Petrol and plastic do not mix and lids fall from bikes. £20 worth of petrol plus £300 for a new lid anyone?
BTW, I have a flip front I normally wear and do open that up to stop any arguments about seeing who i am. Once or twice I have been wearing a balaclava which defeats the object :)
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I leave my black visor down and usually respond to the till monkeys request for removal with a brusque 'sod off'! 8)
Actually I don't. I remove my lid if asked, if you imagine yourself in the till persons position you can understand why they want you to do it. We all look menacing enough as it is.
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following on from the bhurka thing, i sometimes say.. "are you picking on me cos i'm a muslim?" that throws them a little. try it.
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this is Esso's reply
Dear Mr. Wildman
Thank you for your recent enquiry regarding the requirement for
motorcyclists to remove their helmets on certain occasions whilst on Esso
forecourts. We value our motorcyclist customers and should like to assure
you that any complaint received by Esso is taken extremely seriously and
followed up appropriately.
It is a legal requirement that our Sales Advisors supervise our forecourts
to ensure the safety and security of our customers and staff onsite. We
are also required to check that anyone using a fuel pump is at least 16
years of age - the minimum age for buying fuel. Consequently, our Sales
Advisors visually check our customers before authorising the pump to
dispense fuel. Whilst we do not insist as a rule that all motorcyclists
remove their helmets before dispensing fuel, we may do so if the Sales
Advisor is unable to see the individual clearly.
In addition, in the past there have been a number of robberies at our
service stations where those responsible have worn motorcycle helmets for
the sole purpose of hiding their faces to avoid being identified. It is
also, therefore, our standard policy to ask anyone wearing a motorcycle
helmet to remove it before entering our stores. We do this with the best
intention of trying to ensure the safety and security of our customers and
staff.
I regret if the request for you to remove your helmet caused you any
offence, and hope that you understand the reasons for our policy.
Yours sincerely,
Anett Furedi
UK & Ireland Customer Care
+ UK Customer Care, ExxonMobil House, MP 300, Ermyn Way, Leatherhead,
Surrey, KT22 8UX ( 020 7136 1798 7 020 7026 4728 :
customer.care@exxonmobil.com
+ Ireland Customer Care, Esso Ireland Ltd, Dublin Joint Fuels Terminal,
Alexandra Road, Dublin 1 ( 01 656 9039 7 01 656 9181 :
customer.care@exxonmobil.com
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The following inquiry was sent through:
Brand:
First Name: David
Last Name: wildman
Position Title: customer
E-mail: davidwildman14@hotmail.co.uk
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Question:
Can i have a copy of company policy on motorcycle helmet removal at petrol
pumps/forecourts even if pre paying
regards
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Their reply sounds fair enough to me. Try going to some countries like Belgium where at a lot of stations everyone has to pay in advance, then go back in and get your change if you dont use all the €20 you have given them.
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I only go to Sainsbury's now as they don't make me take my lid off...
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Where a Burka under your helmet next time you go in there. That'll fok em right up.
:lol
Why under helmet, ride in to station with one over the helmet, that would cause a dilemma.
I also think the burka/helmet difference is not so much fear of religion but the fact that a baseball bat more effective across the burka than the helmet ;)
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Here's Baron Von Grumble's take on it all..... :lol
Balaclava in a Petrol Station (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iyg26qXqvXg#ws)
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He annoys the crap out of me!
He did make one good vid tho, what a knobby chunker :lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqgEl53x7CM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqgEl53x7CM)
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He appears to have been having a bad day :P
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Harsh, fizzy - but not totally inaccurate.... :rollin
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He can be, but most of the time he's not that bad... I've had the occasional moment of incredible frustration due to one issue after another, after another etc - most of the time this is in the car though :( On the bike you can usually escape a bit easier...
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At least he recognized that he was angry so took some time out to Chill a bit. He is a knob but does make me chuckle. His vids aren't a patch on Apage's vids though
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Sorry, off topic.
Mickey
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One of the garages I use is normally full of police where they stop to get a coffee and probably several doughnuts.
I've never removed my lid in there but they do all tend to give me dirty looks. :lol
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Where a Burka under your helmet next time you go in there. That'll fok em right up.
:lol
Why under helmet, ride in to station with one over the helmet, that would cause a dilemma.
Lol that'd be an interesting one :D
Personally, if I get asked to remove my lid I'll just stick the pump back and buy my fuel elsewhere. I'd have to be on fumes to take it off and should that happen I'll just take my time putting my balaclava back on, then sorting my jacket out, then my lid, then gloves all standing at the counter holding the queue up.
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I only ever fill up at morrisons, mainly because it's less than a quarter of a mile from work,
Never once been asked to remove my lid, I did once have a jokey telling off from one of the girls for filling up while sat on the bike but never mentioned the lid, even with the camera on the side not even a second glance.
However, the tesco directly across the road refuse point blank to even turn the pump on, once while a guy from the group was stood inside with no lid on waving a £20 note under their noses!
I wear glasses too and it's just a bit of a ball ache really.
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Just use tesco and pay at the pump..simples.
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Petrol stations and lids
Could become a tony christie hit
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i always try to use the Esso garage in Glastonbury as the manager and 2 of the other blokes who work there are all bikers,but as and when i start getting out on the bike more i'll no doubt end up with the hassel of taking me lid off,so as stated above,i'll just really take my time with the whole process and hold the queue up for as long as possible-not really the cagers fault,but just to piss the attendant off :lol
went to Germany on my old cbx750 way back in 1988 for the football,filtering passed loads of cars waiting to cross into herman land,got stopped by a very polite border gaurd/dibble,checked my passport,casualy asked if i was going to the football,when i said i was,his whole attitude changed,had all the panniers off the bike,checked me,the bike,all my gear all over the fucking road in front of all these cars that id smuggly filtered passed earlier.of course he didnt find nothing of any note (id sent my flick knife/knuckle dusters cs gas out by post,you know what scum us England fans used to be in the 80's!! :evil ) and told me to go.so of course,i took as long as i could, and i mean focing ages,re packing my kit into the panniers,then strapping the panniers to the bike,then getting kitted up again before bimbling off,much to the annoyance to the car that the blond aryion anti English twat had pulled over as his next victim and the guard who kept hassling me to get on with it,not sure he enjoyed being told that it was his collegue that had strewn my well packed gear all over the floor,and that he'd have to wait while i packed it properly. and they carry guns on the border over there.well,they did back then anyway. happy days!!
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Dont like taking off me lid -- its a faf I also have to take off my glasses - put them down some place, put my helmet down - usually the best place is where my glasses are, so put glasses on face and put lid in place of glasses. oh yeh and pick up ear plugs that removing the helmet has just ripped out. Then pay, then swap lid for glasses (remember glasses are on face lid is on the counter ) put glasses back on - walk out seeing que is now longer than when I went in. And all that in case I ride off with £5 worth of fuel.
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I suppose there is the other option. Buy a car :)
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I have started to use a new Morrisons station thats opened near me as they have the pay at pump ... pumps and you can use em with the lid on. It does save faffing about.
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I have started to use a new Morrisons station thats opened near me as they have the pay at pump ... pumps and you can use em with the lid on. It does save faffing about.
Yep that is what I do, asda one for me.
I found out somthing with these, I got some fuel for my bike and didnt get a receipt and went back later to the same pump in the car and it asked me straight away if I wanted a receipt which would be for the bike one a few hours ago.
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In over twenty years of biking I've only ever been asked to remove my lid once. That was at the local Tesco. I was only using the Tesco because the usual petrol station I use was running dry and was having fuel delivered. I despise and hate Tesco so there was never any question of me going back there anyway. My attitude is if they won't serve me with my lid on then I'll take my custom elsewhere.
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In over twenty years of biking I've only ever been asked to remove my lid once. That was at the local Tesco. I was only using the Tesco because the usual petrol station I use was running dry and was having fuel delivered. I despise and hate Tesco so there was never any question of me going back there anyway. My attitude is if they won't serve me with my lid on then I'll take my custom elsewhere.
As the man said!
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Where a Burka under your helmet next time you go in there. That'll fok em right up.
:lol
That's a very good point, right there! They've got your number plate read through ANPR so what's the big deal?
Just another form of discrimination for us bikers to contend with sadly! Given up fighting and I just take it off IF requested.
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Filled up the other day with my lid on in a Begium Esso.
Nobody said anything, tanked and paid with my dark visor open.
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I have started to use a new Morrisons station thats opened near me as they have the pay at pump ... pumps and you can use em with the lid on. It does save faffing about.
Yep that is what I do, asda one for me.
I found out somthing with these, I got some fuel for my bike and didnt get a receipt and went back later to the same pump in the car and it asked me straight away if I wanted a receipt which would be for the bike one a few hours ago.
Did u manage to include car fuel on the bikes purchase or was it just holding reciept
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It was just holding the receipt, I put the card in like you do and if I remember rightly I didnt even put in my pin and it asked me if I wanted a receipt. I know those pumps and thats not how they work - you card you fill - it askes if you want a receipt yes or no I must of said no on the bike and then later when I went in the car it asked me again before I put in the pin
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God this is a moany old person thread :lol
I'm pretty sure this has all been said before in this thread so I don't hold much hope of changing minds etc.
let's assess. We don't want to bother taking our helmets off because it wastes time, so we'll take extra long to then take them off/ put them back on to annoy someone that's paid by the hour?
The person behind the till doesn't make the rules, the person behind the till doesn't care if you rob them or not - paid by the hour.
The people you're holding up in the queue don't have anything to do with it, they've got lives to get on with and they won't think
'God this petrol station is annoying because this biker is making me wait'
They'll think
'God all bikers are annoying because this biker is making me wait'.
If the till jockey is new or inexperienced, you'll ruin their day for something their employers tell them to ask.
If the till jockey has been doing the job a while, they won't give a flying monkeys how long you take, they're paid by the hour.
I can understand the 'I'm not going there again' school of thought, but why waste your time, their time, everybody's time in doing so?
Reverse rant over, carry on.
(Oh, I got asked for ID for alcohol, I'm so annoyed that I'm going to take ages showing them my ID, pay in pennies and call the cashier a trollop, despite them being threatened with their jobs if they don't ask)
(Ok, now rant over)
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I suppose there is the other option. Buy a car :)
I tried that but filtering was a proper pain in the arse. No-one wants to let you through :eek
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Oh, I got asked for ID for alcohol,
I wish they still asked me
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I normally take it off but when the bike was new (to me) and didn't have the top box it was a lot more annoying. I felt a bit rude popping into a shop with the lid on but have also had someone push a trolley into the lid when carrying it around.
I now wear different glasses for riding and have a top box so take it off if I'm going into a shop.
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Petrol stations and lids
Could become a tony christie hit
:lol
I think this thread is old enough for Peter Kay to cover it with Ronnie Corbet :lol
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Have to love pay at pumps. I don't even have to get off the bike. Just whip a glove off and even that's optional.
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you wont say that if you spill on a hot engine and BBQ you tatters :b
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I always sit - one glove off.
I wonder if petrol would flame up on contact with a hot engine-------------- dont think it would
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I think we should find out Zoolander style.
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Life's too short :lol
(http://i.imgur.com/UfS449I.jpg)
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Age old argument on here i guess. Must agree its a pain in the arse at pumps. I know use pay at pumps, or if ime wearing my flip up helmet thats even better.No questions asked.
Saying that i went into my local co-op the other day , lid flipped up and security wouldnt let me in until lid was removed. Guy was a twat with it too, he did get a mouth full with it too . Would of walked out but needed bits . Even thought of filling my lid with goods and walk out under the security twats nose. :2guns :2guns :2guns :2guns
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OK, here's one for you. I got asked to remove my helmet by a woman wearing a burkka. :eek
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OK, here's one for you. I got asked to remove my helmet by a woman wearing a burkka. :eek
"Ok..........women first love" :lol :lol
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Reverse rant over, carry on.
(Oh, I got asked for ID for alcohol,
If you were a woman, you could take that as a compliment! :)