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steering damper ?.....
« on: 10 August 2013, 08:56:28 am »
hi all
 
   i have the dreaded head shake at 30-55 mph, bought the fazer recently with a worn front tyre (battle axe) one side the right was worn more then the other checked fork oil and it seemed to have different oil in each fork leg, anyway new tyre, front bearings changed fork oil to 15w and shes still shaking,  so just to be safe i am goning to fit a steering damper but cant find any info on them, fitting kits ect.
  anyone help me out looking at buying a budget one but cant figure out where they fit.
cheers neil2do.............. 

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Re: steering damper ?.....
« Reply #1 on: 10 August 2013, 09:38:35 am »
You ain't got a top box and rack fitted have you? Never heard of anyone fitting a steering damper to a fazer. Mind you never heard of the fazer shaking at that speed.

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Re: steering damper ?.....
« Reply #2 on: 10 August 2013, 09:41:37 am »
I've seen steering dampers put on to the thou's but haven't seen one on the 600? Hopefully one of those nice 1000cc foccers will come and shed their expertise ^^

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Re: steering damper ?.....
« Reply #3 on: 10 August 2013, 09:49:26 am »
If you have checked the usual already ie head bearings, wheel bearing or anything loose and if its not any of these..
 
It will most likely be a geometry issue, preload wrong causing uneven weight distribution

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Re: steering damper ?.....
« Reply #4 on: 10 August 2013, 10:17:03 am »

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Re: steering damper ?.....
« Reply #5 on: 10 August 2013, 11:20:37 am »
Never had this problem on the thous either, and never known anyone have it. I'm inclined to agree with Wezdevo, there must be something not right somewhere - better to fix the fault than just deal with the symptoms. Has the bike ever been in an accident? Something not quite straight? Fairing/bracket, fork alignment, front wheel - God forbid, frame not straight? Are the forks set up properly in the yokes - someone hasn't adjusted to alter steering speed/ride height?

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Re: steering damper ?.....
« Reply #6 on: 10 August 2013, 11:25:01 am »
better to fix the fault than just deal with the symptoms. Has the bike ever been in an accident? Something not quite straight? Fairing/bracket, fork alignment, front wheel - God forbid, frame not straight? Are the forks set up properly in the yokes - someone hasn't adjusted to alter steering speed/ride height?

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Re: steering damper ?.....
« Reply #7 on: 10 August 2013, 11:40:19 am »
Steering damper is definitely not the way to go, the bike simply shouldn't shake at all, even more so at the speeds you're saying.



It can only be wheel, forks or frame that are not right, so i'd be inclined to let a mechanic or an experienced rider have a spin on it and try get another opinion.
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« Reply #8 on: 10 August 2013, 12:01:55 pm »
I had this problem, remove hands from bars at low speeds and the bars would shake violently, thought it was due to topbox etc, turns out one fork leg was bent pretty bad,
Doesn't sound too promising if one had less oil than the other,
Their easy to remove and check-
Put on the centre stand and prop front up with a jack
Take off the brake calipers,
Remove front wheel
One side at a time loosen the lower yoke fork clamp bolt
Then the upper yoke fork clamp bolt whilst holding onto the fork
Slide down and out of yokes and see if their straight.


As others have said its not a good idea to mask a problem without knowing the reason for it!
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Re: steering damper ?.....
« Reply #9 on: 10 August 2013, 12:15:18 pm »
My boxeye shakes its head at 30-45ish if you let go of the bars, its quite nasty really!
I just simply keep hold of the bars and it stops :o
Ill be investigating the cause of mine shortly, as I know its been in a crash. It was my sons bike before me, and he crashed it twice! It could be anything!
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Re: steering damper ?.....
« Reply #10 on: 10 August 2013, 01:36:22 pm »
My boxeye shakes its head at 30-45ish if you let go of the bars, its quite nasty really!
I just simply keep hold of the bars and it stops :o
Ill be investigating the cause of mine shortly, as I know its been in a crash. It was my sons bike before me, and he crashed it twice! It could be anything!


Well definitely check the forks first, one of mine was creased at the point of the bottom yoke, not visually noticeable until removed, doesn't take long to do!
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« Reply #11 on: 10 August 2013, 02:08:14 pm »
Will do matey, cheers!
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Re: steering damper ?.....
« Reply #12 on: 10 August 2013, 03:28:47 pm »
A damaged wheel rim will cause shaking too. Try spinning the wheel and look for damage where the tyre meets the rim.