Sprucing up the old FZ1

[noggythenog]

My order book is full till April's as doing a build for dave bright and front end for nick crisp but always got time to talk and pointers

Cheers mate no worries i thought youd have a few things on.


Ill keep the thread updated and ill get busy on ebay sourcing all the various bits n bobs.


On the first pic, with the black bike i like the look of that, are you saying that's standard FZ1 risers???, ill need to have a deek at mine in the shed but i had a feeling mine look more like your pic number 2 on the blue bike....im probably a bit confused though. But whatever the black bike has i like as id want black risers and some gold bolts with gold bars.

[devilsyam]

Ok each line of text refers to picture below it
I've messed about with combos
Now settled with triumph risers which are very low and mid 755s
Be aware you may need to change brake lines or re route
I know I keep banging on about it but I have these options here come sit on me bikes it would save time and money

[fazed out]

scrap all efforts above come see me i have up/down plates £20 powder coated to not pait finish like the expensive lust ones



755 mid rise bars on lower risers so 755 low rise on stock bar risers would work out same



Luke your the man in the know  has anyone made adapter plates for front footpeg hanger to slightly drop the peg position on gen1 fazer thou
low rise 755 on fazer 1000 risers



best set up so far triumph speed triple risers and 755 mid rise

[devilsyam]

#fazed out

answer buell pegs but require bit work to fit not to hard

[noggythenog]

Ok each line of text refers to picture below it
I've messed about with combos
Now settled with triumph risers which are very low and mid 755s
Be aware you may need to change brake lines or re route
I know I keep banging on about it but I have these options here come sit on me bikes it would save time and money

Ta Luke, yeh i think it was just the risers in black made them look different on the pic. But i do like the looks of stock risers and 755's that's the look im after.


Luckily ive already got braided lines and it looks like I've got a bit of excess to accommodate different bars although i do worry about the control cables, since you havent mentioned them being an issue then they probably wont be.


Appreciate the offer of seeing the bikes for a comparison, ideally id like to but i think you're Bristol & it'd prob be a good 3 & a half hour journey, the missus used to live there though so maybe ill get the chance to blag a site seing visit & just happen to be in the area.


Ill defo have a set of those jack up plates off you, ill get some money in my pay pal & wire it through.

[devilsyam]

ok lol any questions im happy to help

[noggythenog]

Just sicking thos pic in for my reference of what ive got currently.


Whole bars, risers and associated gubbings looks lacklustre.

[Hedgetrimmer]

I think I can see your handling problem 

[noggythenog]

I think I can see your handling problem 

Chronic sidewaysonitis Nick




Like haggis vision........their eyes have this view to counter one leg being shorter than the other which in turn helps them run round hills.

[devilsyam]

i feel you pain you need to sort it

[slimwilly]

Scoolboy error = fool




Luke, he is only winding you in as a penpal

[devilsyam]

lost me not hard brain can only process intresting stuff auto shit filter the wife calls it lol

nogginthenog the stock set up hunches the shoulder and throws weight forward this puts loading on arm wrists etc

[noggythenog]

Slim=lose


the moment we became forum members we lost all credibility, we are all equally as sad......even you Slim.


Go play on the 3 word story game for a bit & come back with something constructive

[JoeRock]

[size=78%]Personally mate, I reckon you've made the right decision![/size]
Now, as to your list:


Forks - I'd recommend taking the springs out, and checking them first. They'll have a code stamped on them. Find out what rate it is, and what weight that's good for, and then replace if its not right. Seems a bit pointless doing the oil - if you're not using all the travel the spring just isn't right for your weight at all - thicker oil would make it seem harder, but won't affect the travel.
Shock - I would also imagine if the front is too stiff the rear may also be. Take it off, send it to Nitron. Will cost about £100-£150, they can service it, respring it and revalve it for your weight, and then it will be completely sorted. Also worth noting you don't actually need dog bones - your shock is ride height adjustable. Better to use that first as it won't alter the linkage rate like dog bones will.
Grips - Soft renthals!

[noggythenog]

lost me not hard brain can only process intresting stuff auto shit filter the wife calls it lol

nogginthenog the stock set up hunches the shoulder and throws weight forward this puts loading on arm wrists etc

Cant say that I've struggled with the wrists and arms as such but the standard bars certainly are an awkward shape and very difficult to get the leverage for countersteering

[noggythenog]

[size=78%]Personally mate, I reckon you've made the right decision![/size]
Now, as to your list:


Forks - I'd recommend taking the springs out, and checking them first. They'll have a code stamped on them. Find out what rate it is, and what weight that's good for, and then replace if its not right. Seems a bit pointless doing the oil - if you're not using all the travel the spring just isn't right for your weight at all - thicker oil would make it seem harder, but won't affect the travel.
Shock - I would also imagine if the front is too stiff the rear may also be. Take it off, send it to Nitron. Will cost about £100-£150, they can service it, respring it and revalve it for your weight, and then it will be completely sorted. Also worth noting you don't actually need dog bones - your shock is ride height adjustable. Better to use that first as it won't alter the linkage rate like dog bones will.
Grips - Soft renthals!

cheers Joe, I hope it pays off as it's quite an outlay, fingers crossed.

I need to confirm a few things but I see what you mean about the springs and I totally hadn't realised that the different fork oil wouldn't change the travel so I think in that case it's best to just get looking for a set of springs now. I see K-tech banded around quite a bit these days.

& ref the shock im pretty sure the ride height is already up towards the max but i'll investigate that, I,ve got some free leg clearance so for £20 for some jack ups it'll be nice for a bit more.

I got the serial number off the shock spring and enquired at Nitron and they reckon that it is what they'd recommend for my weight which makes me wonder why the previous owner then went so extreme with the front springs...bit of a dodgy uncalculated move I think.

agree with some nice Renthal grips, easy decision.

[noggythenog]

Had an ebay splurge this morning....items purchased:-


Renthal Bars in Gold


R&G bar ends to fit Renthals


Carbon top yoke cover


Renthal grips, black ones, i just couldnt live with the soft ones being a horribly light grey or beige or whatever they are


Race fasteners for the Tank cover thing


Decals....jury is out but were cheap so ill see.


5 litres of WD40 lol....you can never have too much.


Devilsyam..........after all your advice ive went & got some FZS1000 risers in black to try out.......regards the Renthals......i pissed about for ages on the Renthal site & i was very close to getting the 755's...........but at the last minute i thought foc it lets try something different......so in the interest of experimentation ive ordered some Renthal High 756's......i just liked the looks of them....but dont worry ill shame myself if they are shit and i should have got 755's.....i can send back for replacement no probs.

[slimwilly]

OK Noggy, i  shall see you at the chopper meet in Sept

[noggythenog]

OK Noggy, i  shall see you at the chopper meet in Sept

Trial and error slim.........could be a bag o shite


But could be good


Cant say ive seen any fitted before on a FZ1


For the sake of a wasted couple days waiting on a return then it was worth it just out of interest


I seen them on a Buell bike and liked them and i think with the chunky tank of the FZ1 they wont look too bad or be too far above it.

[devilsyam]

guess you forgot to re read the thread lol with fazer risers i would gone 755 low rise as pretty sure ya lines will be to short

[noggythenog]

Its Jekyl & Hyde in my mind......there's the real me.....& then there's the noggy me...........noggy me always focs things up & does things the hard way


Real me - yeh get the 755's, devilsyam has them they are proven, easy peasy.


Noggy me - oh what are they...ohhhh.....shit i just clicked buy now foc you noggy me


I am cuffing it and yes i can see them being sent back but hey ho like i say curiosity got the better of me......if i was a cat id be foccin killed.


But here's a question for yous - what's the most significant dimension when it comes to brake hose stretch?........i would say that overall height rather than the Rise is.


If so then the 756's are only 15mm taller than the 755's & if I use FZS risers which look shorter then that could negate the difference.......possibly.


Rise is quite different between the 755's & 756's .

[devilsyam]

ya missing the point Mc nogster  there taller but the bend is motocross not sports bike

[noggythenog]

ya missing the point Mc nogster  there taller but the bend is motocross not sports bike

Ah i see so they could make the bike handle like a bag o shite then.


755's it is then


Ill match the 756's up jus for a laugh though......who knows

[Andy FZS]

Ok so with all this talk of renthal bars I've still got some cash from Christmas I NEED to spend, what is best option for a gen1 thou, what's the benefits and I really don't want to have to change brake pipes etc as I haven't finished fitting them yet, brakes are sat on the bench covered in red rubber grease.

[devilsyam]

From memory 755 lows keep stock lines