Author Topic: Oil recommendation? (Read 24061 times)

Slaninar · « **Reply #25 on:** 28 March 2015, 12:59:51 pm »

Quote from: Freza on 28 March 2015, 11:04:31 am

Time interval isn't important, mileage is?

Both are. Once per year, or per mileage - whichever comes first. However, if mileage is really low, less than 1/3 of the recommended service interval, you could go with a bit longer interval. Perhaps even two years.

Freza · « **Reply #26 on:** 28 March 2015, 01:20:05 pm »

Ok, I thought oil wouldn't deteriorate over time...

Earache · « **Reply #27 on:** 29 March 2015, 08:33:55 am »

I use Castrol Power1 10w-40 semi-synthetic changer every 10.000km (6000miles) or so with a new filter.
I do mostly highway/mountain road riding/commuting to work etc. so the engine always warms up sufficiently.
I ride it all year around and tend to change the oil 2 times a year, until now no probs with the engine or clutch. bike is currently on 30.000miles
Changing the oil every 2-3000 miles in my opinion is a complete waste of money unless its used for racing and is constantly revved..
The oil i'm using has an API rating of SJ which is way above the recommendation of the manufacturer so i would expect it to be still a good lubricant even after 6000miles..

fazersharp · « **Reply #28 on:** 29 March 2015, 01:56:14 pm »

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Changing the oil every 2-3000 miles in my opinion is a complete waste of money

Thats why I sort of mitigate things by only changing every two years if I changed every 6000 miles for me it would almost be once every 5 years

unfazed · « **Reply #29 on:** 29 March 2015, 02:49:28 pm »

Quote from: Freza on 26 March 2015, 07:05:03 pm

I'm a bit embarrassed to say that today I changed my Fazer's oil for the first time.
Until now, only the mechanics did that for me, but since there's not much you can screw up, I decided to take further responsibility of changing oil.

It all went OK, except that removing of oil filter was a pain in the arse, because there wasn't much space to move the wrench.

About 2.7L went inside when settled.

And for good people on this forum a little bonus from me...
Yesterday when I went to buy the oil filter, they just received a brand new 2015 R1.
They allowed me to sit on it, fire it up and rev it.
It's definitely a technological and mechanical gem of a motorcycle, but I'm not really a fan of the sound (crossplane engine).
Also, it's not as comfortable as Fazer.
The riding position is a spine killer, especially for taller people, but I guess that's the compromise you agree with when purchasing bikes like this:

https://youtu.be/y89oOl3zUdk

Buy an oil filter socket to fit the filter you use

crickleymal · « **Reply #30 on:** 30 March 2015, 04:12:56 pm »

According to the maintenance manual which I think is downloadable from here the interval is 6000km which I think is about 4000 miles. That works out at about 3 or 4 months usage for me during the spring and summer, a bit longer during the autumn and winter. Mind you most of it is trogging up and down the motorway to work so not exactly high stress mileage. Personally I always change the oil and filter together. A filter is only a fiver so why scrimp.

Slaninar · « **Reply #31 on:** 30 March 2015, 04:49:53 pm »

Quote from: crickleymal on 30 March 2015, 04:12:56 pm

According to the maintenance manual which I think is downloadable from here the interval is 6000km which I think is about 4000 miles. That works out at about 3 or 4 months usage for me during the spring and summer, a bit longer during the autumn and winter. Mind you most of it is trogging up and down the motorway to work so not exactly high stress mileage. Personally I always change the oil and filter together. A filter is only a fiver so why scrimp.

Use fully synthetic oil and change at 10,000 km (6000 mile) intervals, especially since you ride like you said you do. Just make sure you use a new oil filter each time.

crickleymal · « **Reply #32 on:** 30 March 2015, 07:21:45 pm »

Ok thanks

Freza · « **Reply #33 on:** 14 June 2015, 10:36:22 pm »

So, I've been riding with Motul oil that I changed 3 months ago and I must say I don't really like it... $:\$
The gearbox in particular became noticeably harsher, gear changes louder and harder.
Even my friend, who had Fazer 600 a few years ago said he once put Motul in and never again, due to same reasons.
Gonna switch to something else as soon as possible, probably Castrol.

Val · « **Reply #34 on:** 15 June 2015, 02:28:32 am »

Quote from: Freza on 14 June 2015, 10:36:22 pm

So, I've been riding with Motul oil that I changed 3 months ago and I must say I don't really like it... $:\$
The gearbox in particular became noticeably harsher, gear changes louder and harder.
Even my friend, who had Fazer 600 a few years ago said he once put Motul in and never again, due to same reasons.
Gonna switch to something else as soon as possible, probably Castrol.

Try Fuchs Silkolene Comp 4 10w-40 XP Synthetic Ester Based 4-Stroke Engine Oil For High Performance Motorcycles

Long story short - the best oil ever! See details here:

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-785-silkolene-comp-4-10w-40-xp-synthetic-ester-based-4-stroke-engine-oil-for-high-performance-motorcycles.aspx

Woodzey80 · « **Reply #35 on:** 15 June 2015, 06:47:56 am »

I also have used motul & I agree it's shite !
Castrol power 1 gets my vote, wouldn't use anything else now.

darrsi · « **Reply #36 on:** 15 June 2015, 07:16:46 am »

Quote from: Val on 15 June 2015, 02:28:32 am

Quote from: Freza on 14 June 2015, 10:36:22 pm
So, I've been riding with Motul oil that I changed 3 months ago and I must say I don't really like it... $:\$
The gearbox in particular became noticeably harsher, gear changes louder and harder.
Even my friend, who had Fazer 600 a few years ago said he once put Motul in and never again, due to same reasons.
Gonna switch to something else as soon as possible, probably Castrol.

Try Fuchs Silkolene Comp 4 10w-40 XP Synthetic Ester Based 4-Stroke Engine Oil For High Performance Motorcycles

Long story short - the best oil ever! See details here:

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-785-silkolene-comp-4-10w-40-xp-synthetic-ester-based-4-stroke-engine-oil-for-high-performance-motorcycles.aspx

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fuchs-Silkolene-Comp-4-4-Stroke-Motorcycle-Bike-Engine-Oil-4-Litre-10W40-/371111478473?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item5667f7c4c9

Freza · « **Reply #37 on:** 15 June 2015, 08:06:53 am »

I used Castrol before, so I may try Fuchs now...

bigralphie · « **Reply #38 on:** 15 June 2015, 11:11:29 am »

Motul is shite , you need fully synth

I do love a oil thread

unfazed · « **Reply #39 on:** 15 June 2015, 02:55:01 pm »

These oil threads have been flogged to death.

For the record I use Silkolene Super 4 on all the fazers

paulchucky · « **Reply #40 on:** 20 June 2015, 09:12:11 am »

oil mmmmmm a slippery lubricant that allows things to move in and out smoothly

unfazed · « **Reply #41 on:** 20 June 2015, 12:45:25 pm »

Quote from: paulchucky on 20 June 2015, 09:12:11 am

oil mmmmmm a slippery lubricant that allows things to move in and out smoothly

No, that is KY Jelly

paulchucky · « **Reply #42 on:** 20 June 2015, 06:08:59 pm »

always change oil and filter at same time why would you leave old filter on with new oil ???????????? makes no sense (for sake of what 4quid!! )
change oil+filter every year march time ready for thrashing times

either use castol or putoline never had any issues with either

Freza · « **Reply #43 on:** 25 May 2016, 02:15:28 pm »

Quote from: Val on 15 June 2015, 02:28:32 am

Quote from: Freza on 14 June 2015, 10:36:22 pm
So, I've been riding with Motul oil that I changed 3 months ago and I must say I don't really like it... $:\$
The gearbox in particular became noticeably harsher, gear changes louder and harder.
Even my friend, who had Fazer 600 a few years ago said he once put Motul in and never again, due to same reasons.
Gonna switch to something else as soon as possible, probably Castrol.

Try Fuchs Silkolene Comp 4 10w-40 XP Synthetic Ester Based 4-Stroke Engine Oil For High Performance Motorcycles

Long story short - the best oil ever! See details here:

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-785-silkolene-comp-4-10w-40-xp-synthetic-ester-based-4-stroke-engine-oil-for-high-performance-motorcycles.aspx

Just changed it to Silkolene Comp 4, and wow what a change!
Smoother shifting, even neutral to 1st doesn't clunk that hard anymore.
Excellent oil, made a huge difference, at least on my bike.
Thanks.

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fazersharp · « **Reply #44 on:** 25 May 2016, 07:36:36 pm »

Just done mine with castrol power 1 10w-40 4t semi synth
posted it here http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,6412.msg232264.html#msg232264

kgjersda · « **Reply #45 on:** 25 May 2016, 09:23:31 pm »

Just changed mine to Castrol Edge Power 1 10w-40 Semi synth. It feels smoother now (placebo?)

The last oil change was done 1500km ago, but I don't know how much time has passed, so I decided to do it anyway since it was the previous owner who did the last one.

However, the oil filter was perfect and OEM Yamaha. The one I got in the kit was a generic Snell (but Hiflofiltro package). Is Yamaha OEM filter better than the Hiflofiltro/Snell filter?

crickleymal · « **Reply #46 on:** 26 May 2016, 10:54:13 am »

Quote from: kgjersda on 25 May 2016, 09:23:31 pm

However, the oil filter was perfect and OEM Yamaha. The one I got in the kit was a generic Snell (but Hiflofiltro package). Is Yamaha OEM filter better than the Hiflofiltro/Snell filter?

Nope. Most of the common oil filter makes are pretty much the same.

Slaninar · « **Reply #47 on:** 28 May 2016, 10:09:59 am »

When people say they aren't happy with Motul oil, I'm prepared to bet a beer that they used either 5100, or 300 V.

There aren't many oils better for (4 stroke) motorcycles than Motul 7100 IMO.

Freza · « **Reply #48 on:** 28 May 2016, 12:31:34 pm »

Quote from: Slaninar on 28 May 2016, 10:09:59 am

When people say they aren't happy with Motul oil, I'm prepared to bet a beer that they used either 5100, or 300 V.

There aren't many oils better for (4 stroke) motorcycles than Motul 7100 IMO.

You can see from my first posts that I used a 5100 10w-40.

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Tiercel · « **Reply #49 on:** 29 May 2016, 11:09:17 am »

I used this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motul-5000-FZS600-Fazer-98-03-Oil-And-Filter-Kit-/351278293650?hash=item51c9d16292:m:mog0RUj5b_ujSjeYeJeLcNg

Seems alright to me, surely oil is; oil does?

Is it really worth paying double the price for Fuchs or Shell or some other premium brand covered in technical mumbojumbo like "Electrosyntec Technology" (wtf is Electrosyntec Technology ????) and shiny pictures to entice the people in Halfords?

Gear change is a bit clunky, but then its always been a bit clunky. I was under the impression thats just how Fazer engines are!