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I fitted one to my bike many years ago, I think it makes a little bit of a difference. I seem to recall reading the FZS run a bit rich as standard and the extra air flow helps a little bit with fuelling. If nothing else it gained a nice howl from the exhaust near the top end.... I just have a Venom race can fitted.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Carb clean
« on: 16 August 2022, 06:39:35 pm »
Thank you unfazed  :thumbup
I know the coolant pipes clip on with spring clips, was wondering if there are any more O-rings apart from the fuel connecting pipes. If I am splitting the carbs apart from each other I may as well replace everything O-ring wise.
Also had a quick Google search and there are a couple of bearing suppliers local to me as well, so I can give them a try.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Carb clean
« on: 15 August 2022, 09:22:57 pm »
Thanks unfazed :)
I still have 2x fuel T piece rubbers from my kit (3EN-14997-00), for the main fuel inlet (2&3).
Also 4x choke plunger o-rings. Never fitted them as didn't want to split the carbs.
Do I need 8x of those O rings for the fuel link pipes? Hard to tell from the service manual or Haynes manual as I think the diagrams are a bit "rubbish". I did find some from (Bearing Shop UK).... BS 803 V.
Looks like there might be 4x O-rings for the coolant T pieces as well, something else to look for.
Is there anything else I need to replace? If I split the carbs I might as well replace all the O-rings, don't want to take it apart for a 3rd time :D

 
 

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Carb clean
« on: 14 August 2022, 09:14:29 pm »
Just an update, finally managed to get the carbs back on the bike (been really busy for the last month).
Turned on the ignition and the fuel pump ticked for a good few seconds while it filled everything up, then stopped as it should. So better than it was before stripping and cleaning the carbs out, fuel pump would just constantly run as one of the floats was stuck with gunk.
Could smell petrol so didn't try and start it. Had a quick check/look and I have a fuel leak, looks to be coming from between carb 3&4 (TPS sensor end) and higher than the float bowls. Now wondering if it's leaking from one of the fuel link pipes between the carbs, do these have O-rings between the metal fuel pipes?

Left the carbs complete and just cleaned the guts of each carb and replaced the O-rings and float bowl gaskets. So a bit unsure where it's coming from exactly.
Looks like the carbs will be coming off again. Is it possible to pull the carbs out and hook it up to the fuel tank pipe? It leaks when you switch on the ignition and the fuel pump pressurises. Would make it a lot easier to find the leak.
EDIT: It's not leaking from the overflow pipe, which it was doing before stripping and cleaning out the carbs.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Carb clean
« on: 15 July 2022, 10:42:23 pm »
Unfazed: Yes just turned the carbs upside down and tilted until they just rested on the float valve dodahs. We measured about 12-13mm ish, all were the same height as each other and I would say parallel with the carb housing (the flat part of the floats). Just replaced the O-rings (jets, needle etc) and float bowl gaskets. All the bits looked in very good condition after cleaning the gunk off, just O-rings etc were knackered. My bike has only done around 18k miles, had her for the last 20 years.
I got my kit from a seller called "carbtec" off ebay, supposedly viton. Has loads of kits on the shop for all sorts of bikes and reviews are good. Can be hard to get OEM bits now as some stuff they don't make anymore. I did see quite a few sellers which didn't metion what they were made of, so gave them a wide berth. Also some reviews which said the parts were the wrong size...probably the cheap Chinese stuff.

I will def not be leaving 95 fuel in over the winter. This new Ethanol fuel is terrible stuff, best avoided if possible. Wonder if the fuel injected bikes have this issue as well, should imagine a blocked injector would be costly to clean or replace.



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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Carb clean
« on: 10 July 2022, 07:37:11 pm »
So the carbs are all cleaned out and back together again. Good job I ordered that O-ring kit as my Dad checked his order for his ones and they are not Viton, just standard Nytrile. The old ones were absolutely knackered, rock hard and some fell to bits when taking them off to replace. No surprise really as they are at least 24 years old.

We just replaced the O-rings inside the carbs and new float bowl gaskets. The jet cleaning tool and brushes came in handy, I was very carefull to try and not enlarge the holes in the jets etc.... got a good amount of green gunk out even after carb cleaner and ultrasonic cleaning from the little jet holes. A toothbrush came in very handy as well as you can clean everything without damage.

We checked the float heights, all seem to be the same height and parallel with the carb body when just resting on the little float dodahs. Left them well alone as didn't want to make it worse, hopefully they will be ok. Bike has only done about 18K ish.
This afternoon I cleaned out the blocked hole on the bottom of the fuel tank, was blocked with crusty gunk. Does anyone know if one of the tubes is a breather and one is overflow from tank? I had the tank leaned on it's side with fuel tap to the right, and a little bit of fuel came out of the bottom tube.
I have a little bit of new and old fuel still in the tank so I wacked some Redex in there and was giving it a good shake around, can't see any rust through the fuel filler cap. I will chuck this out before fitting and put some fresh petrol in.

Also fitted a new fuel filter and I have a new upgraded front sprocket nut, never checked it but for a few £ I will just swap it anyway.

Will probably have to wait until next weekend to put the old girl back together again and see if she comes back to life. I don't have carb balancers so I will probably have to take her to a shop to get set up. Could probably do with a new chain kit as well tbh, I think it's still the original but it got a bit rusty in the garage the other year. Also need to bleed the brakes....and whatever other jobs come up  :lol


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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Carb clean
« on: 02 July 2022, 12:50:46 pm »
Trebus, thanks but the acid test will be if it runs after putting it all back together  :lol Yes the o-rings come in a box with different sizes and are supposed to be safe with Ethanol.
EDIT: This is the kit I ordered off ebay (seller was carbtec), has a few more seals in it and not much more than buying just float bowl gaskets. Also got myself one of those valve/jet cleaning tools as well.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Carb clean
« on: 02 July 2022, 10:41:54 am »
Thank for replies :)
Just quick update: No wonder the old girl wasn't happy looking at the state of the carbs.

Took the carbs apart and everything was completely covered in green gunk and that hard to shift varnish type substance. The jets were mostly blocked, gave everything a good clean with carb cleaner then took it to my parents next door neighbour to put the bits from float bowl and jet needle side etc in his ultrasonic cleaner. We did this one carb at a time so not to mix up parts. Not sure how but managed to lose the small spring that goes on top of the jet needle. Can't find spares so had to rob a spring from a biro pen and cut down to size, it only holds the needle in place so it doesn't move.
After ultrasonic cleaning everything had a good gong over with carb cleaner and a toothbrush, and the jets were cleaned out with proper jet cleaning files.... different diameter metal rods. Amazing how much green gunge came out the little holes. The carbs were cleaned with some "gunk" and a toothbrush then had a good going over with carb cleaner.

Just ordered some new float bowl gaskets and a fuel filter so all the bits are in seperate labelled up tubs. My dad had the other seals, good job as they were knackered as well. Rock hard and starting to split. Hopefully once it all goes back together and I clean the tank breather hole out it should run alot better. I don't have a carb balancer so will have to see how it is after, might have to go to the bike shop for that if needed. I know you can buy cheap balancers but not sure if they are very accurate.
Next door neighbour who fixes up lawnmowers and anything with an engine said he has never had so many issues with carbs since they went to ethanol mix fuel. He basically said if you use standrad fuel then use a fuel treatment with every tank, and if not going to be running for more than a month or two put high octane petrol in the tank first. I think Esso go faster juice is supposed to have no/minimal ethanol in it.



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FZS600 Fazer / Carb clean
« on: 29 June 2022, 11:01:56 pm »
Hi all, long time lurker. Just thought I would say hello and show you some dirty photos  :lol
I went to start the old girl up the other week as last time she wasn't to happy so I put this down to old fuel in the tank, not used it in a year but had a few starts and left running. Put some new petrol in the tank and long story short petrol was leaking down the stand. Would only run on 3 briefly if you tried to start with a bit of throttle.
So I managed to get the carbs off today as I reckon one of the floats is stuck. First thing I found was one of the breather/fuel return pipes on underside of the tank is blocked with crusty rubbish...also a bit in the hose. Other side is clear. Then when moving the air box back there was still some petrol in there and the K&N filter stunk of petrol. So got that out and give that a clean as well.
Getting the carbs off was "fun" but got there in the end, I think putting them back might be more tricky. Anyway as I had been breathing in petrol fumes all afternoon I just had a quick look at two of the carbs....well gunked up and float was stuck on drivers side. Nearside float moved but was sticky. Looks to be long overdue a good clean looking at the state of the internals.
I put a few photos up so you can see.

Just wondering who you use for spares? Dealers... can be expensive. Just found Yamparts and Wemoto after aquick google, good prices but not OEM bits generally.
The dirty photos  :lol






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