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Title: Best Used Estate car - need some advise please - I need to buy a bastid
Post by: moffmeister on 23 March 2012, 05:15:21 pm
Sorry folks been out of it for a while


Company car is no more (as a result of no job) - its not all bleak I think I've got another job..... ;) (but it'll most likely be car allowance)


Looking for a used diesel estate - prefer auto


My shortlist:


Volvo V70 D5 SE
BMW 330D/520D/530D
Merc E320 CDI (old shape)
Saab 95


Oh looking to spend no more that £7K preferably no more that £5K


Any comments/recommendations appreciated - and of course if you've something in this ilk to sell....



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Post by: rayburn600 on 23 March 2012, 05:31:42 pm
Look in the For Sale section. :D
Theres a great Toyota there. :eek
Maybee not an Estate, at your price, an Automatic, or anything you would like, but none the less its for sale. :z ;)
R
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Post by: BIG MAC on 23 March 2012, 05:34:38 pm
get the best possible 320d touring ideally an efficient dynamics one
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Post by: BIG MAC on 23 March 2012, 05:35:20 pm
And avoid the Saab they are shite
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Post by: sausageroll on 23 March 2012, 06:34:38 pm
Forget the Saab, if you prang it you may be in trouble. we've got  a front damaged one in, struggling to get parts. been told no bonnets available and they have no plans to make any :rolleyes
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Post by: steeeve66 on 23 March 2012, 06:55:50 pm
Don't get a Saab as they've gone bust. If I were you I'd stick to Ford or GM, just coz parts and servicing are so cheap. I recently persuaded the misses to ditch her Porsche Cayenne ( bought before I met her) on the understanding that I paid for the replacement, which was to be cheaper for me in the long run. I got her a Vauxhall Astra estate, 10 years old...
Initially she was delighted, as you can imagine, but really it's been fantastically cheap to keep on the road - things like filters, brake pads and other bits and pieces, are run out of factories in Russelsheim in their millions and cost next to nothing. I picked up a new mid section exhaust for under 70 quid, new header pipes for 30... You get the picture.

Hardly glamourous tho.
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Post by: fazed600 on 23 March 2012, 07:43:56 pm
The BMWs will be the most fun to drive. Don't think you can go too far wrong with a 330D (or a 335D if you push the budget).
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Post by: robby boy on 23 March 2012, 08:18:57 pm
Audi a4tdi or a6tdi, near bullet proof and need very little maintenance after initial cost
Title: Re: Best Used Estate car - need some advise please - I need to buy a bastid
Post by: Madders on 23 March 2012, 09:16:43 pm
Hello Moff, I appreciate your list of desirables but here's my two penny worth.


The new Mondeos are used as dog vans in Gwent and ragged, hard and regularly and are generally well liked and considered bullet proof.


I have a Peugeot 407 which is shite!!! It scrubs tyres out with ease, tracking goes awry as soon as it's done and it takes about ten minutes to settle after starting due to countless fault and error messages. Got a mate who works at a local VW dealership and swears blind on Skoda Octavias as do a couple of friends who own them Hope this helps.


PS, how did you do those stuffed peppers again, plum tomatoes, anchovies, garlic? Hope you're well bud.


Madders :D :D :D
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Post by: moffmeister on 24 March 2012, 06:13:00 am
thats is fort the peppers Madders


3 series just a little on the small side - only attracted t0 330d by the extra oomph.......


stevee66 - what did you buy for her birthday - a new iron? :rollin



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Post by: Looney tune on 24 March 2012, 07:08:46 am
Boss mans son runs a Volvo 4x4 estate (2004) with 132,000 hard miles by him from new. It's never missed a beat and very nice to drive.
 
I've also 'tested' the Octavia 4x4 and it is very capable. 4x4 a good option for your part of the world Moff
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Post by: goldfazer on 24 March 2012, 08:26:28 am
I'd say Saab, but I'm on me third. Not sure about spares, usually available from 3rd party suppliers or someone will have inherit the kit from Saab at some point. My 9-5 estate has 150k on it and drives soooo smoothly it's like a new car. Petrol, but with an LPG conversion. 
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Post by: JZS 600 on 24 March 2012, 09:13:07 am
What about a Subaru, just to be different!
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Post by: locksmith on 24 March 2012, 09:54:47 am
I recently persuaded the misses to ditch her Porsche Cayenne ( bought before I met her) on the understanding that I paid for the replacement, which was to be cheaper for me in the long run. I got her a Vauxhall Astra estate, 10 years old...

And she's still your mrs ??????
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Post by: t140 on 24 March 2012, 10:27:23 am
A4 avant 2.0 tdi goes like stink handles well and does almost 50mpg
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Post by: steeeve66 on 24 March 2012, 10:54:11 am
I recently persuaded the misses to ditch her Porsche Cayenne ( bought before I met her) on the understanding that I paid for the replacement, which was to be cheaper for me in the long run. I got her a Vauxhall Astra estate, 10 years old...

And she's still your mrs ??????

Initially it was touch and go - her face was a picture when she saw it (say, Munch's Scream?). But she's ok about it now, fine as the Porsche was it was eyewateringly expensive to run (1200 quid for tyres, 2000 for a service, 150+ to fill and then only get 15 miles to the gallon...)? Hers was the S version, the Turbo costs even more and I just don't understand why people do it - I guess I'm just not a car person?
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Post by: 1967fazer on 24 March 2012, 04:57:47 pm
If its an estate then I would say a Volvo v70, only do a BMW if it has a very good service history. Mondeos aren't as good as they used to be. I know a couple of guys with Octavias and swear by them. Or how about a nice Seat Alhambra V6 sport, goes well., handles well, looks good and much more versatile than an estate. Not too heavy on juice either,but nowhere near a diesel of course and its going cheap :rolleyes
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Post by: Instructorman on 24 March 2012, 07:04:11 pm
Volvo every time, you cant beat the D5 engine
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Post by: nakedadder on 24 March 2012, 07:15:31 pm
I rate my Octavia 1.9 tdi estate pretty highly, it's averaged just under 50mpg over the last 3000 miles or so, and that includes towing a caravan over to the east coast. It's comfy, reliable and the build quality is excellent, typically German I suppose. I'd definitely have another  :)
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Post by: steeeve66 on 24 March 2012, 07:35:41 pm
I rate my Octavia 1.9 tdi estate pretty highly, it's averaged just under 50mpg over the last 3000 miles or so, and that includes towing a caravan over to the east coast. It's comfy, reliable and the build quality is excellent, typically German I suppose. I'd definitely have another  :)

Skoda are Czech... VW don't get involved beyond financing them, and they get a bit touchy about it...
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Post by: moffmeister on 24 March 2012, 09:15:39 pm
drove two V70 D5 SE autos today an 04 with 91K on for £5K and an 05 with 160K on for 4.7K


decision more or less made) made - just need to find the right one


tomorrow foray should take in:


 ** FIVE  V70s ** 04 - 07
07 Passat 170 TDI DSG
05 A4 2.0TDI 140 Multitronic
04 525D SE Auto
03 330D MSport Auto
Title: Re: Best Used Estate car - need some advise please - I need to buy a bastid
Post by: nakedadder on 24 March 2012, 09:28:36 pm
I rate my Octavia 1.9 tdi estate pretty highly, it's averaged just under 50mpg over the last 3000 miles or so, and that includes towing a caravan over to the east coast. It's comfy, reliable and the build quality is excellent, typically German I suppose. I'd definitely have another  :)

Skoda are Czech... VW don't get involved beyond financing them, and they get a bit touchy about it...

Whatever VW's involvement is, Skoda has definitely upped its game, there was a time when a lot of people (including me  :lol ) would never have owned one but now I'm quite happy to  :)
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Post by: pitternator on 25 March 2012, 09:36:44 am
I am in similar position...but am looking at focus estate. I drove to northumberland in a new one( hired) a couple of years ago...brill at everything , 2.0 diesel cruised at 80/90 on almost no throttle, yet 50mpg. My local police use them, so must be a good sign ??
what do folk think ?
budget like moff - 5k ideally, 7k if necessary.
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Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 25 March 2012, 11:59:55 am
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Skoda are Czech... VW don't get involved beyond financing them, and they get a bit touchy about it...

VW supplies the chassis and running gear.

Octavia is based on the VW golf.  So you get a golf chassis and engines.  Much roomier car than a golf however.

But yes it's basically a German car with a Czech body and styling.

There's a good chance an Octavia will replace my ageing boring Bora when the time comes.  Would love the petrol VRSi but considering the price of fuel it'll probably be the diesel job.  Nice cars.
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Post by: steeeve66 on 25 March 2012, 01:39:50 pm
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Skoda are Czech... VW don't get involved beyond financing them, and they get a bit touchy about it...

VW supplies the chassis and running gear.

Octavia is based on the VW golf.  So you get a golf chassis and engines.  Much roomier car than a golf however.

But yes it's basically a German car with a Czech body and styling.

There's a good chance an Octavia will replace my ageing boring Bora when the time comes.  Would love the petrol VRSi but considering the price of fuel it'll probably be the diesel job.  Nice cars.

In fact it shares a platform with the Jetta but they do a fair bit more than just body and styling - at least they did when I worked for them in Prague last year.
Maybe they've changed since?
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Post by: cable tie on 25 March 2012, 05:44:59 pm
I do rate skoda and have owned a oct vrs full leather all the toys i also had it chipped it had the same engine as a Audi tt 20v everything is stamped vw/Audi but just costs a fraction less, skoda do a dsg in the diesel and it's a stonker it's all down to badge snobbery.

Vauxhall's diesel 1.7 cdti engine suffer with egr probs on a regular basis the 1.9 D in the vx is a fiat engine goes like a scalded cat either 120-150 bhp but is sh1t the box cant take the torque and falls to bits around 50k If driven hard, egr faults still and many more they now don't do the 1.9 they say it's to do with emissions but the truth be told it was a crap engine and the warranty claims have put a end to the engine.

BMW diesel is a cracker you won't go wrong with one of em 320d is a good en 335d is the best by far 300bhp will keep up with a new m3 till 90mph as its a twin turbo diesel and will do 40mpg ! also only available/ in auto/tip as they never made a manual box that could handle the torque ive seen touring/ estate versions sell for 7k its a real cracker also Volvo I've also had a Volvo t5  in fact 2 t5 quality is second to none everything is bang on and 200k is nothing, just closing the door sounds like its s proper built car not a tin can.

Ford I've never rated ford the 1.8. Tdci did not return the same mpg as the above cars i so thought was poor and died not feel of Any quality.

Vw hold resale values and young lads like em because the diesel goes like stink if you want the same car but more ie dsg full leather and low miles for your money and badge snobbery is not a issue buy a skoda and what you save get it chipped and gain mpg more and will blow the sox of most hot hatches.

Dave.
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Post by: paul.s on 25 March 2012, 07:38:08 pm
iv just bought an audi a3 sportback 2.0 tdi 140bhp and i love it coming from a 3.0 tdi touareg doing 20mpg this things showing 57 mpg at 90 on the motorway and returning 40mpg round the town :D  id try an a4 tdi if i were you getting mine re,mapped to 170 bhp next month  apparently dont lose any econimy if driven gently but much more poke when you want it
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Post by: BIG MAC on 26 March 2012, 08:14:09 am
Or try a BMW 320 DSE Efficient dynamics...177bhp out of the box.....and on my regular Scotland to England runs...it is often showing 70mpg at 70mph...allegedly it will go twice as fast but I have no evidence in support of that ridiculous assumption ;-)
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Post by: ZiggyCol on 26 March 2012, 10:39:02 am
They are prety rare but I'm very impressed with my Renault Laguna 2.0 DCI 180GT Sport Tourer.
 
The GT has a trick 4 wheel steer system, a sporty suspension setup and 180bhp. Drives very well but I can also get 45mpg if driving with a bit of care. It's also very practical with a flat wide load space.
 
Originally got a standard model by chance as a hire car on holiday and was impressed enough to consider it when thinking of changing the family wagon. Discovering the rare GT model encouraged me further and I've not regretted the decision.
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Post by: HarryHornby on 26 March 2012, 04:29:30 pm
I've got an 04 reg Skoda Octavia estate (Laurent and Clemment model with all the bells and whistles)  it was my friend's company car and I bought it from the lease company for peanuts.
 
It's a FANTASTIC car.  60mpg on a long journey, 48 mpg combined.  comfy, loads of room in the boot.  I'd buy another.  It's currently on 115000 miles, I reckon it's worth a look.
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Post by: bigralphie on 26 March 2012, 04:36:57 pm
My 06 mundano tdci 130 estate has never missed a beat in the 4 years I,ve owned it ,will run it till it starts to cost money
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Post by: moffmeister on 26 March 2012, 07:07:57 pm
nearly bought an A6 but it has multitronic gearbox which (I now know) are supposedly unreliable


nearly went (to waste another day) - actually to look at some Mondeos


the heart slightly rules the head as I ended up buying an 05  V70 D5 SE Auto from Dydrals Volvo (independent) in York (I would recommend)


its done 159K but will do me for 12 months (or less dependent how the job front goes) - pity its not the 185bhp (I ragged one of those yesterday)  but it'll be quick enough (now I'm paying for me own fuel and tyres!)


Picking it up tomorrow
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Post by: bigralphie on 27 March 2012, 11:53:11 am
Yea you have always struck me as a Volvo driver  :lol  ,found yourself gazing through antique shop windows yet  :b
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Post by: BIG MAC on 27 March 2012, 12:09:13 pm
In the Office complex we share in Falkirk..there is a branch of webuyanywreck.com ;-) They have taken in a Volvo V50 estate ..Reg No M80FAT....made me smile.
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Post by: JZS 600 on 30 March 2012, 01:45:32 pm
Thought this was a bike forum!
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Post by: richfzs on 30 March 2012, 03:48:56 pm
you'll learn ;)