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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner => Topic started by: Ricky on 08 March 2017, 03:23:57 pm

Title: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: Ricky on 08 March 2017, 03:23:57 pm
I have just  seen a 2004 FZS  1000 with 17000 miles and 4 owners  in beautiful  nick on eBay from a dealer  for £3800, is he having  a laugh?
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: Woodzey80 on 08 March 2017, 04:24:13 pm
As the years go by & the number of fazer thou's on the road get lower there is only one way mint fazer prices are gonna go !!
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: PaulSmith on 08 March 2017, 05:22:43 pm
That is over a grand more then I would have expected, but if it really is the one you want...
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: Ricky on 08 March 2017, 05:38:37 pm
I have a very  nice 05 blue one with 18600 miles and I am happy with it  and would  not  sell it, I was just a bit surprised at the asking  price,but it looks  good  for use all, if that is what they think it is worth. Do you think someone  will pay that much?
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 08 March 2017, 09:11:07 pm
Mine is a 2005, and I think it had the same mileage, 17k. It was absolutely immaculate (still pretty good two years later, despite at least another 20k miles), and I paid £3.3k for it. I thought that was overpriced, even for a dealer, but it was relatively local, and came up at the right time. I did try to talk the price down a bit, but they weren't having any of it. £3800 though - that really is stretching it a bit too far I think. I'd want an even lower mileage for that money, and it really would have to be pristine.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: robbo on 08 March 2017, 10:01:19 pm

I think, like a lot of things it all depends on how much someone wants whatever's for sale. How many "minters" do you let go because they're perceived to be too expensive, before something more "reasonably" priced comes along, if at all. Like anything the older stuff gets a clean example gets harder to find. Last week I read in MCN that a 1968 Velocette Venom Thruxton, unrestored, went for just short of 24 and a half grand. Someone had one, someone wanted one and the rest is history.

Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: devilsyam on 08 March 2017, 10:15:08 pm
a lot depends on you idea of value

i have sold properly the most expensive gen 1 ever back in 2003 for 7k last year a gen 2 for 8k

i have bought a mint 05 with less than12k on the clock for 1800 quid

value is what you put on it

Mr chrisps bike was a cracker for the price it ticked his boxes and he had no reason to complain

there out there just gotta look or be lucky

Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: Ricky on 23 March 2017, 04:53:49 pm
I see that the bike is still for sale on eBay.  May be that is saying  something about  the price.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: kitcrazy on 23 March 2017, 06:21:48 pm
got mine for 2k and I think that had 17k on it so I didn't mind spending a few quid on new shock and springs
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: tomlinscote on 24 March 2017, 03:51:51 am
Same as anything else, it is worth whatever​ someone is willing to pay for it.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: Ricky on 10 April 2017, 08:59:25 pm
Yet another  fzs 1000 on eBay  for £3750 a 2002 with 7500 miles. I see the other  one is still for sale.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: AyJay on 10 April 2017, 10:05:24 pm
Which would you rather have, an MT-07 with 7500 miles for £3750 or an FZS with 7500 miles for £3750?  That's the value.


Aside from the fact you won't be able to ride the FZS in London after 2019, they're both essentially 'almost new'.





Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: NorthWestern on 12 April 2017, 05:44:43 pm
£800
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: Ricky on 22 April 2017, 12:15:56 pm
Just seen a 05 fzs with just 750 miles in beautiful  condition on eBay  for £3500, the best one I have seen and I think  a very good price.
I noticed  the other high  priced one's  are still for sale.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: Ricky on 23 April 2017, 11:42:25 am
I now no the second  hand  bike market  has gone mad, in Auto Trader is a 05 fzs with 8500 miles  in very good  condition  for £4694. There is hope  for use all lol
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: BMCfaz on 24 April 2017, 11:25:52 am
If you have something and someone else wants it enough, they'll pay the asking price.


As far as these low milage, so called mint condition bikes are concerned, though. what do you want the bike for?


If you want to just look at it, or even keep it as an investment, fine, but if you want to ride it I'd go for one that's seen a bit more use. If you don't ride it, seals are more likely to harden, contacts still corrode and the top end hardly ever sees oil.


Mine's regularly cleaned and serviced, and runs perfectly, but it's approaching 50K, which is "average" for a 13 year old bike, so I'd never get these prices for it, no matter how good it is. But that's the point, it's a bike for riding, not a museum piece.

Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: JD-LincsUK on 25 April 2017, 09:07:51 am
Related to this topic, I wonder how much value riders put on their Fazers for the insurance.

Mine is pretty much as described in the post above this one and I put it at £2,000

Tho I'm pretty sure I'd get nowhere near that if it was totalled.


Also - I rode one at a dealer in 2014 before I bought mine - it was an 04 bike and in pretty good condition, except a few small bubbles in the tank paint lower edge area, which my qualified friend told me were rust bubbles and the dealer said was "just" a shabby respray. They wanted £3,300 and those are the two reasons I bought elsewhere. But at the right price I'd have taken his arm off. Other than the bubbles it was a gorgeous bike, very comfy to ride and had a full set of boxes. Mileage was around 30,000.

I paid £1800 for the one I've got.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: nickodemon on 25 April 2017, 08:43:43 pm
My brother got an immaculate one with 8000 miles for under £3000 last year
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: Ricky on 17 June 2017, 01:23:49 pm
Yet another high priced fzs1000 on eBay, 06 plate with 3000 miles and looks immaculate £4500 .
I have noticed that nearly all the high priced fzs are still on eBay so I wonder if it is just to much,some of them have been there  a very long time.
Makes me think how far the price will go.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 17 June 2017, 09:09:21 pm
Summer now, so that will certainly have an effect on the advertised prices. Whether or not the sellers actually get what they're asking for...


Mine is now worth far more to me than pure money terms. It is my 5th one on the trot, and it has taken me to more places than any of the others, and is the first one I have got to the spec I want. Although I too have only insured it for a value of £2000, that amount could never replace what it means to me.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: b1k3rdude on 19 June 2017, 08:18:36 pm
from a dealer  for £3800, is he having  a laugh?
Yep,

better buying private, I paid £3300 a few years ago for my 2005 with 10k.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: fazer69 on 14 July 2017, 07:36:08 pm
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bought this back after two years apart. it was mine from brand new to 10 years old, now i got it back. 55 reg 22000 miles mint paid 2800
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: chaparral02 on 16 July 2017, 10:06:04 am
I have just  seen a 2004 FZS  1000 with 17000 miles and 4 owners  in beautiful  nick on eBay from a dealer  for £3800, is he having  a laugh?
LOL  ..........£1500 would seem more like it..

Sold my  02 gen1 fazer 1000 with 5000miles for around £2000 back in year 2008

If an old 04 gen1 is worth £3800 then my 08 gen2 must be worth £6000.... ;)
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: fireblake on 16 July 2017, 01:46:37 pm
My bike has all the worthwhile mods but has 43,000 on the clock and looks as tatty as a tatty thing. But goes so well and is fast as fook. Always surprising mates on their big 1400 sports tourers. What's it worth, bugger all but massive smiles for me

Mickey
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 16 July 2017, 09:47:16 pm
Here's a dealer asking £4694 :eek   
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Cars-Motorcycles-Vehicles/9800/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=fzs1000&_sop=3 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Cars-Motorcycles-Vehicles/9800/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=fzs1000&_sop=3)
I only paid 6k for mine pre reg in 2004.

Or how about this tart for 3995.00
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZS-1000-/382145362693?hash=item58f9a37b05:g:6ZcAAOSwiQ9ZVe63 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZS-1000-/382145362693?hash=item58f9a37b05:g:6ZcAAOSwiQ9ZVe63)

Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: chaparral02 on 17 July 2017, 04:03:12 pm
Here's a dealer asking £4694 :eek   
[url]https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Cars-Motorcycles-Vehicles/9800/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=fzs1000&_sop=3[/url] ([url]https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Cars-Motorcycles-Vehicles/9800/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=fzs1000&_sop=3[/url])
I only paid 6k for mine pre reg in 2004.

Or how about this tart for 3995.00
[url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZS-1000-/382145362693?hash=item58f9a37b05:g:6ZcAAOSwiQ9ZVe63[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZS-1000-/382145362693?hash=item58f9a37b05:g:6ZcAAOSwiQ9ZVe63[/url])
My local dealer has a 2014 MT-09 ABS with only 527miles on clock for £4600 http://www.duques.co.uk/used-bikes-for-sale/yamaha-mto9-abs.htm (http://www.duques.co.uk/used-bikes-for-sale/yamaha-mto9-abs.htm)

 
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 17 July 2017, 08:51:00 pm
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My local dealer has a 2014 MT-09 ABS with only 527miles on clock for £4600 [url]http://www.duques.co.uk/used-bikes-for-sale/yamaha-mto9-abs.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.duques.co.uk/used-bikes-for-sale/yamaha-mto9-abs.htm[/url])


That's a keen price.
Then the new MT10 caught my eye - 9495!  What the?

Ah it's Guernsey. 

Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: chaparral02 on 17 July 2017, 09:07:27 pm

Then the new MT10 caught my eye - 9495!  What the?

Ah it's Guernsey.
That MT-10 has  already been sold

I went on Saturday to have a look at it but it was already sold...
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: Robgosty on 19 July 2017, 06:59:56 pm
Had mine around 9 months 2002, pretty good condition with aftermarket can, posh seat, Renthals, heated grips, R1 gear linkage, 27k gave £1800
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: Ricky on 28 December 2018, 11:04:36 pm
Been looking on Ebay etc and the price of FZS 1000 just seem to getting higher.
It seems it is being driven by dealers and bike shops pushing up the prices on all bikes.One dealer has described the FZS 1000 as a "future classic " so hopefully we are sitting on money in the bank?
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 28 December 2018, 11:59:22 pm
Been looking on Ebay etc and the price of FZS 1000 just seem to getting higher.
It seems it is being driven by dealers and bike shops pushing up the prices on all bikes.One dealer has described the FZS 1000 as a "future classic " so hopefully we are sitting on money in the bank?


It seems just about anything becomes a 'classic' when it gets rare enough  :rolleyes But I'm more ambitious than that; mine will be a barn find :lol
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: dazza on 29 December 2018, 12:15:42 am
I'm going to build a barn out of old pallets  :lol
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: kebab19 on 29 December 2018, 08:01:03 am
When you own one, it's worth next to nothing. They're completely valueless once the second big valve service is due.
When you're looking to buy one, it's 'a future classic' and worth two or three times as much. Either that or they are 'too old for the showroom' and broken on ebay.

Despite a few people saying they'll go up in value I fear think they might be similar to early Honda VFRs: pundits argued that as a great bike they would inevitably balloon in value and yet to date they haven't
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: tommyardin on 29 December 2018, 09:35:38 am
I know it’s not the 1K Fazer but a lot of the older FZS600’s are dropping in value because of the pollution restrictions in London, those same restrictions are being talked about that might effect other cities. If it starts to become the norm will it then be introduced to larger towns as well as cities?.
Could be a way for government to get all the older cars and motorcycles off the road.


If you can not ride your bike into towns or cities your future classic is not worth very much, except as a show piece and I feel there will be lots of them.  :'(
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: Ricky on 29 December 2018, 05:51:58 pm
I have to say this anti pollution thing is just away for cities to just make more money with out any actual effort.
I don't live in or  anywhere near London,  but have to say I am concerned about the future for normal working people,  this is just yet another tax on  the working class. Most people just can not afford to upgrade, I don't believe it has been thought through. Rant over.The price of  older bikes just seems to be getting higher with the price of new bikes just getting beyond  the reach most people.
Is there a future for " classic bikes " ? Will the FZS 1000 be on the list. ?

Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: ogri48 on 29 December 2018, 07:14:38 pm
me and dave (Dynspud) had this conversation out on the thous the other day. To both of its pretty much irrelevant whether they go up in value or not. We'll always keep them ...its not just not worth selling them really. If I got another bike id just run it alongside the fazer..err which is what I do. there is nothing out there that is the brilliant bike that they are, not jus for the two grand or so mines worth, but for three or four times that too.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: steve 10562cc on 29 December 2018, 09:17:35 pm
Could PCP finance have something to do with the lack of  choice by the owners either returning to the dealers and another PCP bike or paying a big lump of finance off and keeping the bike. leaving dealers in control of late model second hand bikes coming onto the market. 
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: Stinka on 03 January 2019, 10:04:51 am
Paid £1500 for this in November. It’s immaculate. 44k and came with a s1000rr rear shock that I’m yet to fit


(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g216/savagemoneypit/41A61F37-C160-4096-BFFF-9B913EB46881_zpsl2yox2zn.png) (http://s57.photobucket.com/user/savagemoneypit/media/41A61F37-C160-4096-BFFF-9B913EB46881_zpsl2yox2zn.png.html)


I don’t think I’ll ever sell it  :)
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: Dynspud on 03 January 2019, 05:58:17 pm
The best bike in the best colour  :thumbup
Here's mine with my missus' blue 600 Foxeye.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: Decoke Dave on 03 January 2019, 08:53:12 pm
An impossible to a answer question!  The individuals priorities play the biggest part!  Having worked in several factories in my life as a mechanical engineer working with large workforce's, peoples personal attitude on vehicles play the biggest part in their purchase value. You get the "I only payed x for a machine on a whatever PLATE!  This means nothing and is a worthless sentence. The last Gen1 Fazers are nearing 14 years old thus condition is everything! I know people who are overjoyed at getting one for £1800 with pretty high mileage, but dinged exhaust, split fairing, crap pattern mirrors that shake themselves to death, split fairing inlays, pattern indicators, marked bodywork, savage rust on frame and fixings and almost no service history but firmly believe they have a bargain because their priority was totally minimal spend, there is no right or wrong.  My 05 registered bike was the BEST I could find at the time about 18 months ago, after looking for about a year, condition/history/mileage was my priority.   If I had found a one owner original bike, good history with say 3000 summer only miles I would happily have paid £5000 for it.  Remember we have all went to look at the blind mans minter!  There are plenty of run of the mill bikes out there, genuine minters will only become harder to find. P.S. There a four Gen 1 Fazers where I work now. A clever workforce!  ;)
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: agricola on 04 January 2019, 07:52:34 pm
The best bike in the best colour  :thumbup
Here's mine with my missus' blue 600 Foxeye.


A nice pair
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: Stinka on 05 January 2019, 04:23:50 pm
The best bike in the best colour  :thumbup
Here's mine with my missus' blue 600 Foxeye.


Lovely pair


Wish my mrs was into bikes. She loves coming out on pillion, but she’s shit at driving a car and can barely ride a bike lol
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: ogri48 on 05 January 2019, 06:54:54 pm
my missus wouldn't last five minutes riding her own bike. too aggressive, and too over confident/blasé/ dare I say arrogant even about traffic and road conditions...
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: RTphil on 16 January 2019, 08:38:03 pm
Well, I'm looking for one....
A late model, original silencer, bars, windscreen etc, maybe other sensible mods and I'd be happy to pay £3500.
Based North Herts if anyone is selling....
Phil
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: Ricky on 18 January 2019, 01:51:44 pm
The price of a new bike for me is now totally out of range  and the ridiculous second hand prices are just getting beyond me also.Don't see me selling my FZS any time soon, in fact this may be the last bike I ever own. The only reason I can see to move on is the weight of the bike being a  issue in the future with my back problems.
Just wandering if the price of bikes will fall if and properly when the financial crisis hits us. Will this increase the price of the FZS or not?
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: ogri48 on 18 January 2019, 06:50:06 pm
I cant see them getting much less. years back I sold my minty mk1 bandit 12 for £1800. they stayed at that price for ages, then started to creep up. Me mate Nick bought a fazer thou from this forum for £2k, like new, with only 14k on the clock on a 02, a couple of months back. . I cant see that ever going down in value. It genuinely rides like a new bike. blokes like me on here who have sorted thous that get used and are now showing around 40k or more wont sell them because we know theres nothing you can replace them with for that money, realistically what would you get for a 40k miles fazer, two grand? bugger that.. :)
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: Dynspud on 18 January 2019, 07:04:39 pm
Spot on Paul.
To me my thou is priceless as I wouldn't sell it.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: kebab19 on 18 January 2019, 07:14:16 pm
Not an absolute indication, but if you look at ebay through the 'completed listings' filter, you'll see that the highest priced bikes aren't shifting (and have been on ebay for ages with repeat auctions). The ones that have sold appear to be in the £1000-£2000 region, with the very occasional minty exception.

Like most people on the site I feel there's nothing that comes close for getting on twice the money they're currently valued at (I quite like the new Versys 1000 but not really *that* much of a quantum leap forward and £7,000 upwards).  The best 1 litre all-rounder with oldskool carbs will eventually regain it's true value...
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: BMCfaz on 19 January 2019, 09:56:43 am
I was talking to Grant at RAD motorcycles in Northampton about this not long ago. He thought I'd get about £1200 - 1500 if I tried to PX it and I might scrape £2000 if I sold it privately. This is not because of any faults on the bike but because it's done nearly 50K miles, and most people are petrified of "high-milage" bikes.


As he said, why would I sell it for that? The engine is great, it handles well and it's in good cosmetic condition. I've not seen anything more modern that makes me want to change.


So, if you've got a Fazer that has sat in a garage, wrapped in cotton wool, and has low miles, you might get £3000+, but if you use the bike as intended, don't expect to get much for it.

Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: Ricky on 19 January 2019, 11:34:43 am
BMCfaz has a point about high mileage bikes, we buy a car with not a lot of thought about mileage,  so why are we so up tight about high mileage bikes? 
Surely a bike in great condition with higher mileage is better  than poor condition low mileage one.I my self would not even consider a higher mileage bike, but not with any logic.
At what point would you not buy a higher mileage FZS 1000?Can the FZS 1000 take the higher mileage and at what point would you trade in?
We here love are bikes,  but at what point would we let them go? And is it worth it considering the price we would get for them?
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: BMCfaz on 19 January 2019, 04:52:00 pm
We've all heard about Fazers that have done 100K+ miles without any problems, but you frequently see posts asking for low milers, as though thats a good thing. My thoughts are always WTF has it been doing over the last 15 years or so. Corrosion doesn't stop because you don't use the bike, fuel gums up the carbs and so on, I'd rather have a bike that gets used regularly and is looked after.


The value of mine against something else would be negligable, so I'll continue to keep it in as good condition as i can and run it into the ground. Who knows, in twenty years time it really might be a classic and worth something, but I probably won't be around to see it!
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 19 January 2019, 06:45:38 pm
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The price of a new bike for me is now totally out of range  and the ridiculous second hand prices are just getting beyond me also.Don't see me selling my FZS any time soon, in fact this may be the last bike I ever own. The only reason I can see to move on is the weight of the bike being a  issue in the future with my back problems.
Just wandering if the price of bikes will fall if and properly when the financial crisis hits us. Will this increase the price of the FZS or not?
PCP :D   Dealers treat anybody who walks through the door as a potential new bike sale.  And they seem to hate anybody who can actually afford to purchase what they are selling (ie cash buyers).

I reckon new bike prices have risen about 20% since June 2016.  Also importers are trying to hide the true cost.  Gone is the free 600 mile service.  Many now quote the sale price and not the on the road price.  Anything now to hold back that ticket price.


This inevitably drags up used values.  If we foc up and the economy nose dives, well new bike prices will rise further, used prices will rise and dealers will be going bust left right and centre. 


Talking of dealers.  Apparently 2018 was a good year.  Maybe it was the good weather, but they bucked the price rises.  I think 2019 could be a tough year for the trade.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: ogri48 on 19 January 2019, 09:48:12 pm
Its all about the pcp deals aint it lol. personally, that wouldn't be for me, with bikes I like to feel I actually own it not rent it.My daughter traded a perfectly lovely car worth two grand as a deposit for a pcp deal on a car she will have to give back after three years and payments of £280 a month..makes no sense to me. Ive seen fazers on the bay with 90k plus that still run perfick, so I'm guessing/hoping my silver dream machine (good old david Essex huh) will outlive me
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 19 January 2019, 11:01:21 pm
 
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Its all about the pcp deals aint it lol. personally, that wouldn't be for me, with bikes I like to feel I actually own it not rent it.My daughter traded a perfectly lovely car worth two grand as a deposit for a pcp deal on a car she will have to give back after three years and payments of £280 a month..makes no sense to me. Ive seen fazers on the bay with 90k plus that still run perfick, so I'm guessing/hoping my silver dream machine (good old david Essex huh) will outlive me


 I think it all depends on the deal.  I looked at the finance deal for the MT10, but Yamaha are charging 8.9% APR.  Umm no thanks.
 
But Honda offers both 0% finance on PCP and HP.  Some dealers are offering a grand off and 0%.  Now if you like the bike that makes sense doesn’t it?  Even if you have the cash you’re gonna take one of those 0% options, unless you can find a dealer to give you 2k off.


The 0% HP is 279 a month for 36 months on a £2255.15 deposit, and that’s the plus model on the list price.  And you can stick the service package on the PCP or HP.


Honda seems to be set up to sell em at the mo.
 
 
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: ogri48 on 19 January 2019, 11:21:01 pm
you seriously thinking of changing your bike mate? or running another alongside it? the mt-10 is I should imagine a cracking tool, and as muc as I hate to admit it, rider aids would be helpful now im old, blind etc etc :lol
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 20 January 2019, 01:38:58 pm
 Don’t think having bought the thou new in 2004 I could now part with it.  But she is looking a little tired and could do with a wee tidy up.
 
But hey I haven’t bought a bike since 2004!  So yeah I’m tempted.  Though I have a hard time getting my head round the prices.  They have increased sharply since ******.
 
I want the same kind of bike again.  An all-rounder.  So MT10 is a possibility.  It ticks a lot of boxes.  But I am a bit wary cos it’s portrayed by so many as something of an animal.  Looks wise, it’s grown on me.  So many crap looking bikes these days.
 
Talking of an ugly ducking growing into a swan.  Well the new CB1000R looks lovely.  I mean it’s a smashing looking bike.  It’s not got MT10 power but 143hp is more than enough.  Much much better deals on the Honda, but then maybe it won’t hold it’s value like the MT10. 
 
I guess that’s two I should test ride.
 
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: ogri48 on 20 January 2019, 02:59:23 pm
the only new un that would tempt me is the trumpet speed twin. Its come out cheaper than I thought it would be too. But I'm dreaming, unless circumstances change. Theres been some issues with that cb1000r...one of the fellers on the cb13forum (Simon) has a mate with one, and its off the road at the mo with a fault thats affected a few that Honda won't sort out. I dunno the details, but probably worth checking out. The mt-10 is a brilliant bike by all accounts, but I just don't dig all that plastic on the front end.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 20 January 2019, 04:04:05 pm
 Yeah I thought the street twin looked great when it came out.  But where was the full bhuna option.  So yeah the Speed Twin is tempting.
 
Hadn’t heard of any CB1000R issues other than a few comments about the paintwork marking.


 
Sitting on an MT10 everything feels right.  But I don’t want a bike that is impossible to ride normally, or constantly pulls wheelies every time you open the throttle.  But maybe it's all just hyped up.

 
I guess I should get out there an try some.
 
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: ogri48 on 20 January 2019, 04:58:19 pm
its the only way to know for sure... :)
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 20 January 2019, 06:05:19 pm
 Yeah I guess.
Though test rides are short and usually on unfamiliar roads.
But maybe with bikes as sort of similar(ish) but distinctly different like the CB1000R and MT10 a wee test ride might just do the trick. 
I’ve googled for CB1000R issues but haven’t come up with anything other than those complaints about the paint. 
 
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: ogri48 on 20 January 2019, 09:34:48 pm

this is the extract from the post mate. the talk about removing the wheel is to do with his cb13..reading it back I thin I misinterpreted it..its just his bike. Strange really, I mean, when do I ever get anything wrong... ;) ;)
Hi Ogri
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When replacing the wheel I did actually use an upside down shovel under the tyre as a sort of crude adjustable wedge..
Ideally you need to be born with three hands to do this job comfortably.
My mate has a Honda CB1000R and that is a delight to take the wheel off..
Its a single sided swing arm and the wheel is removed like you would remove a car wheel.. It leaves the chain AND the brakes alone and in situ..
That really is a brilliant design..
However all is not well in the CB1000R world..
My mate is having starting issues.. Its well known about on his forum but so far there are loads of theories but no one seems to have come up with the definite cure.. His bike is with Blackpool Honda at the moment, and it seems they are scratching their heads.. They've put new Iridium plugs in (Bike has done 21,000 miles) . I thought those VERY expensive plugs were meant to last ages ?? Still not cured though. I fear they are going to replace more and more parts till they "happen" upon a faulty part.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 20 January 2019, 10:09:42 pm
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My mate has a Honda CB1000R and that is a delight to take the wheel off..
Its a single sided swing arm and the wheel is removed like you would remove a car wheel.. It leaves the chain AND the brakes alone and in situ..
That really is a brilliant design..
Gosh.  I thought you would have to slacken the chain to remove the wheel.  Another point for the CB1000R.  That is nice.
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However all is not well in the CB1000R world..
My mate is having starting issues.. Its well known about on his forum but so far there are loads of theories but no one seems to have come up with the definite cure.. His bike is with Blackpool Honda at the moment, and it seems they are scratching their heads.. They've put new Iridium plugs in (Bike has done 21,000 miles) . I thought those VERY expensive plugs were meant to last ages ?? Still not cured though. I fear they are going to replace more and more parts till they "happen" upon a faulty part.
Doesn’t sound good.  But that must be the previous model.  Though is it just his bike, or are others stuck with this problem?
Here's one with an end can and a tail tidy.  Looks sweet.


(https://www.picclickimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/bSgAAOSwCgtcQcKI/$/Honda-CB1000R-ABS-Plus-Naked-2018MY-68-REG-_57.jpg)
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 20 January 2019, 10:14:49 pm
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Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: ogri48 on 20 January 2019, 10:40:29 pm
cant knock honda build quality. my 04 still cleans up like new, and its proper "built"
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: robbo on 20 January 2019, 11:15:58 pm
Feb's issue of Bike magazine has a test on the CB1000R. It scored 8/10, the cons being a poor rear shock, difficulty in refuelling as the tank baffle is too near the filler, and lastly, chain adjustment is a bit of a ball ache. They viewed it as Hondas best naked bike.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 21 January 2019, 05:45:51 pm
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cant knock honda build quality. my 04 still cleans up like new, and its proper "built"
Always thought the naked CB1300's are cracking looking bikes.I'm just a wee fella, so a bit on the big side fae me.
The new CB1000R feels really compact when you sit on it. Feels reasonably light too.
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Feb's issue of Bike magazine has a test on the CB1000R. It scored 8/10, the cons being a poor rear shock, difficulty in refuelling as the tank baffle is too near the filler, and lastly, chain adjustment is a bit of a ball ache. They viewed it as Hondas best naked bike.
Ta Robbo.  I'd guess if I bought one and it becomes a keeper I'd be reckoning on a new rear shock anyway.  Standard shocks are always something of a compromise.  Not heard of the fill up problem before - sounds odd.  On the Fazer thou with the scottoiler I only adjust the chain every 5-6K when I change the rear tyre.  And it looks like with the Honda I won't even have to bother. at all  Presumably the trick is to make sure the adjuster doesn't then seize.
But in the meantime I've still to shift the shingles.  Can't get a hat on at the mo, still quite a bit of discomfort.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: robbo on 21 January 2019, 06:42:06 pm
The chain adjustment problem is due to the inaccessability of the pinch bolts on the single sided swingarm, which are hidden between the disc, sprocket and numberplate hanger. But if you've already got a reasonable selection of tools, it can be overcome.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 21 January 2019, 06:58:10 pm
I figure that number plate hanger has to go.  Dunno if that makes it easier.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: ogri48 on 21 January 2019, 07:16:12 pm
them 1300s are a good looking bike mate, but half the bike the fazer is for twice the money sadly lol. Og the current crop of nakeds the cb1000 certainly looks to be heading the pack, though I'd have a speed triple if I was looking fr summat new along those lines. Trumpets are expensive mind..
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 21 January 2019, 08:44:14 pm
The CB1300 must be doing something for you though seeing as you are hanging onto it.
Triumph Speed Triple and MT10 are very similar in price to the CB1000R.  A few folks have said though if you fancy the Triumph make sure you try the Street Triple as many reckon it's a better bike than the Speed.
I'm guessing most of the so called bike press will dismiss the Honda as being too civilised etc, not mental enougth etc.
I always said after getting the Fazer thou I'll never need more HP than this.  And the CB is rated at 143, it's more compact and lighter - so that should be more than enougth madness for me I think.

Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: ogri48 on 21 January 2019, 09:03:02 pm
the cbs a nostalgia thing really, I had my first one for five years back in me halcyon biking days. Ive got it for the same reason them that had z1s etc back in the day now want another. Sad but true. Having said that it is a bloody good bike..but the fazer is lighter, nimbler, quicker steering, easier to ride in the wet etc. and of course cheaper. The street triples of old were stunning to ride, they reckon the newer 765s are even better by some margin. plenty of choice mate if your definitely looking for a new un..
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: SkidT on 21 January 2019, 09:15:16 pm
you seriously thinking of changing your bike mate? or running another alongside it? the mt-10 is I should imagine a cracking tool, and as muc as I hate to admit it, rider aids would be helpful now im old, blind etc etc :lol


The MT10 is indeed a cracking tool. I’m lucky enough to have one sharing the garage space with my Gen1. Yamaha’s finance rate when I bought it new (March 2018) was at 9.9%apr I think. Not prepared to pay that interest, I did a 2yr 0% balance transfer to fund it after my deposit.


I got (I believe) a decent deal, £10400, only £400 more than the release price in 2016. If you compare that to the list price of £8200 or thereabouts, for the Gen1 when they were first released in 2001, it’s not bad going.


The MT seems to come out of the factory very firmly suspended. A small outlay for a suspension specialist to work his magic and it is much better. There is lots of adjustment available on the R1 suspension.


The riding position is more roomy than the standard Gen1, in terms of peg to seat height / knee bend. It’s a great bike, with fantastic power available throughout the range and it can definately bring out the hooligan in you. I tend to ride mine in power mode two and traction control two all of the time. The front still wants to come up if you’re aggressive with the throttle.


However even in power mode three, allegedly the softest of those available, it can still be a little snatchy going back on the throttle from closed.


It’s still not IMHO the depreciation proof, consummate allrounder that the Gen1 is though. Oh and you definately need the comfort seat at £270 extra! You have been warned. 😄


Im considering selling at the start of the season and getting myself a second really nice condition Gen1. Mine runs really nicely and has all of the right mods, but needs tidying up really. I kind of use it as my winter bike now, as the engine paint has gone. It would probably cost me as much to get mine restored / tidied up as it would to buy a decent second one. If I got mine tidied up, I then wouldn’t have a winter bike. We’ll see......... 👍
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 21 January 2019, 09:24:46 pm
I need something I can bolt some luggage on.  That rules out the Speed Triple.Though Street Triple takes the semi-hard GIVI panniers.

I don't go touring anymore.  But I like to take my bits and bobs with me on a day out.  Like my camera and a lens or two.  Also it's nice in Scotland to have space for clothing.  It can be freezing in the morning and warm in the afternoon in summer up here.  I'm getting old, I like to be warm :lol

I got full hard luggage on the thou.  One thing I love is dumping my hat in one of the boxes when I park up.  I haven't had to walk about with a hat in my hand for 20 odd years now.

Anyway MT10 is good as it takes a big top box, which is more than enougth for me these days, and it looks OK with it.

GIVI do top boxes for the CB1000R but I haven't yet seen any photos of it with a box attached.  I'm not convinced it will look right.  OK it never really looks right but you know what I mean.   But the semi-hard panniers look OK.  Can't get a hat in them though.

Honda 0% finance only on till end of march.  Hmmmm.  How many nice days do you get for test rides this time o year?
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 21 January 2019, 09:34:52 pm
Very few dealers up here.
When I talked to the Yamaha dealer the other year they went through 'the deal'.  I was like naw.  I said to them we can talk money once I've had a ride.  They said ' what do you mean.  I said, well how much for the bike.  They said - eh?  I said - cash.  All I can say is they looked really disappointed. 

I guess if I ever decide what I want, and there's not a decent deal on offer, I'll just have to push em or head south of the border.
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Not prepared to pay that interest, I did a 2yr 0% balance transfer to fund it after my deposit.
I agree.  Sounds like you got a good deal.  How does the 0% transfer work.  Though I've got cash, I can do other things with it if I can bag some 0% finance. 

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The riding position is more roomy than the standard Gen1, in terms of peg to seat height / knee bend. It’s a great bike, with fantastic power available throughout the range and it can definately bring out the hooligan in you.
Do you feel you can ease back and cruise along on it when you want to, or is it just begging you to be bad all the time?
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: SkidT on 21 January 2019, 09:58:58 pm
I’ve got a Givi rack and top box on mine. I’ve also got a colour matched Baglux tank cover on it. Fortunately, the Baglux tank bag off of my Gen1 matches the MT perfectly, so I can interchange the bag between bikes as and when I need to.


I think SW Motech also do some semi rigid panniers for the MT. They’re only 20litres a side if I remember correctly? So more space in a top box. That said, the brackets for the panniers are very discreet when the panniers are removed and they’re only £250 all in. Tbh though, I don’t do long trips away, so the top box / tank bag combo holds plenty enough for a long weekend away.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 21 January 2019, 10:06:54 pm
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Tbh though, I don’t do long trips away, so the top box / tank bag combo holds plenty enough for a long weekend away.
Afraid my hard luggage is nonfango.  It's good stuff, but not available anymore.
If I went with the MT10 I'd just stick a Givi box on it.
But can you ride it nicely all weekend, or does it make you miss-behave.
That's my big reservation about the MT10.  But I am just listening to much to the hype or is it really an out and out animal which gets under your skin everytime you turn the key.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: SkidT on 21 January 2019, 10:09:15 pm
0% balance transfer...........I’ve PM’ed you.

You can definately ride it sedately if you want to. Cruise control is nice. I don’t know if your Gen1 is Ivanised “full Monty” or not? Think the power of that, with shorter wheelbase and gearing, plus another 20 odd bhp. It is really good fun.

The quick shifter is only for up shifts, but like most, works better when you’re firm on the gas. It’s not as smooth as the box on my Gen1 though with a scottoiler fitted. Clutchless upshifts on that are like a knife through butter.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: SkidT on 21 January 2019, 10:21:21 pm
Took the MT out the other weekend. It was fresh outside but about 8 - 10 degrees but with a wind chill. About fifteen minutes into the ride, gently leant over for a left hand bend and the bike moved a bit under me. I wasn’t going quick or being daft, just a combination of still not properly warm tyres and perhaps a micro climate / shiny road surface. I definitely rode sensibly after that.


It’s not quite as easy to ride sensibly on as the Gen1 though. I took that out the following day and still love it. Now I’ve got a taller seat fitted, I’m waiting for the warmer weather to get out on it again and try it out.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 22 January 2019, 01:36:55 pm
 Yeah the cruise control is appealing.  And I’m really surprised the Honda doesn’t have it.  The CB1000R like the MT10 is fly by wire, so it wouldn’t really cost them anything to offer cruise control.
 The appeal of cruise control for me is on roads like the A9 which have average speed cameras.  I think the original cameras were front facing only but they are, so I’m told, being gradually updated to front and rear.  I’ve got cruise control in the car now and it’s just perfect for average speed cameras.

  My 2004 Fazer thou has Ivan’s slip on jet kit.  Mike fitted mine in 2005, the full monty wasn’t yet available.
I wondered if the more upright riding position of the MT10 might be helpful when you just want to take it easy(ish).
I find it hard at times to ride the Fazer thou sensibly.  But then I also remember being very apprehensive about buying that too.  I wondered if it would get me into bother.    Well yeah it can, but also no, it’s happy to roll along when you want it to.
Thank-you for the finance info.  Yamaha’s 8.9% APR is far from competitive. 
 
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 22 January 2019, 06:51:38 pm
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Think the power of that, with shorter wheelbase and gearing, plus another 20 odd bhp. It is really good fun.

 That got me thinking, and with time to kill while still off sick I started googling for dyno run results.
What I should have according to Ivan is
Slip on kit - 131.5 HP  and 74.4 lbs of torque.
Also,
Standard – 121.7 hp and 71.9 lbs
Full Monty – 140.8 and 78 lbs
 
Motorcycle.com got the following for the MT10 (FZ10 I think they call it)
138.5 HP and 77.1 lbs of torque
In a separate test they got
135.7 HP and 75.6 lbs of torque. 
 
Obviously a de-cat and remap on the MT10 releases significantly more.
But the standard MT10 seems similar to an Ivanised Fazer.
I thought it would have much more.
 
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: SkidT on 22 January 2019, 07:26:04 pm
 :lol  I did all of the same before I went for an MT. I genuinely thought “What’s the point?” According to some dyno reports, It’s hardly got any more quoted rear wheel power than the Gen1 and similar torque figures. I Read a load of reviews and hunted out dyno readings etc etc with quite varied alleged results.


Then I went and had a decent test ride. I genuinely didn’t expect it to be noticeably quicker than the Gen1 and thought that the test ride would rule it out. Clearly that wasn’t the case. I can only give seat of the pants opinion, having had neither dynontested. Having the opportunity to ride both back to back, I would say that the MT definately builds speed quicker.


Depending on which dyno results you believe, it could just all be down to the gearing on the MT. I don’t think there’s much difference in weight between the two. Top end speed is largely irrelevant to me but again, quoted figures aren’t significantly different.


I would say the biggest issue that I have with the MT is the tank range. It’s much less than the Gen1 and is the main limiting factor for use for Touring.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: dazza on 22 January 2019, 07:40:40 pm
I think 140 bhp for a full monty gen 1 is a little optimistic.
Maybe with a full exhaust system like an Akra or Yoshi.
My full monty'd gen 1 made 135 with 78.71 ft/lb torque


Also if they refer to the MT10 as an FZ10, the chances are it's an American import which makes slightly less power. ( According to our American cousins on the forums)


My standard MT10 made 143.41 with 78.66 ft/lb torque.


It's the way the MT10 delivers its power and the way it freely revs which makes it feel so different even though the figures are very close.
You can see this with the distinct rises in power curves on the graph as opposed to the smooth and linear one of the Fazer.
My Fazer is faster top end but again the MT10 has a rev limiter which can be removed with an ecu re flash. (You can see the MT10's power curve was still climbing when it suddenly drops off).
Above 150mph, it's all about the aerodynamics and the Fazer is better in that department I think.


You don't have to ride the MT10 like a dick but.......you don't have to ride anything like a dick.......100mph+wheelies say you should  :b
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 22 January 2019, 07:53:57 pm
Sorry should have said the full monty figures were for full full monty - yup full system fitted.
Yeah motorcycle.com are American.  Was struggling to find UK figures.
Cheers for the graphs - perfect.
I guess it must be the short wheelbase, high bars and as you say the way it delivers power.
Have you kept yours standard Dazza?
Fella at work has the SP version.  He's removed the CAT and had it flashed.  But it's silly loud - anti-social loud.He's offered me a shot, but I don't like riding other folks expesnive bikes. Don't mind when it's older bikes.
I guess I need to try one. 


Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 22 January 2019, 07:56:38 pm
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I would say the biggest issue that I have with the MT is the tank range.
That is the one box it does not tick.  I don't mind if it drinks, but give it a decent tank - 17ltrs is pretty mean.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: dazza on 22 January 2019, 08:13:47 pm
Yes, I've kept mine standard.
I don't like too loud. It's one of the main reasons I'm not interested in removing the cat.
Apparently, there is a map for a tune with the cat still in place or a Leo Vince  mid pipe with a small silencer box fitted helps keep the noise down.
Maybe tempted this year to have it tweaked but my priority is to upgrade my car to a Euro 6 to get round the ULEZ......Damn the environment. :lol
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 22 January 2019, 10:08:32 pm
Yeah I've seen the Leo Vince de-cat pipe.  It might help.
I don't know why nobody offers a replacement de-cat box. 

When I comes to noise I like to think my Fazer thou is about perfect.  It's got a standard length straight through can and the EXUP valve works.  It doesn't wake the neighbours when I'm off to work in the morning but it also sings when you wind on the throttle.  Lots of de-catted bikes are just nasty.
I also wondered why nobody butchers the cat box.  I found this......
Might interest you Dazza.  Would need a custom flash.  But I'm thinking it's nice and discreet.  It's an R1 but should be very similar for the MT10.  Very doable I think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYKO3AZsLqQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYKO3AZsLqQ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2K7g267F7E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2K7g267F7E)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvmxBANXcXg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvmxBANXcXg)
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 22 January 2019, 10:14:31 pm
Umm sorry if I've taken this thread a bit off topic. :o
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: Ricky on 28 January 2019, 01:54:31 pm
It has gone a bit off topic,  but hay so what.It does bring up another question,  with all the mods we have done to are bikes, exhausts ,paint work, screens etc does this distract the FZS 1000 from becoming a  future classic as we have modified them.When you see the older " classic " everyone wants them completely standard . Yes they can be but back, but than they are not as good as the modded bike. Does the FZS 1000 need to be modded to become the "future classic " or can a standard bike make it?
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 28 January 2019, 03:38:15 pm
In terms of being worth money as a classic.  The more standard the better.
You want 100% unmolested.  Discreet mods like an Ivans kit and rear shock to fix 'issues' I wouldn't think would do any harm.  But things that change the appearance I think are a no no.

Things climbing in value right now;
1992/3 CBR1000 Fireblade1998 - 2002 YZF1000 R12000-2010 VTR1000 SP1 and SP21994-8 Ducati 9161999 Suzuki GSX1300R Hayabusa (only the bronze ones)1993 Ducati Monster 900
Will the FZS1000 rise in value - maybe given 20 years or so. 



Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: Falcon 269 on 28 January 2019, 04:45:26 pm
Ironically, mine is closer to stock now than it has been for nearly 15 years.  Had to put so many OE bits back on to keep the MOT testers happy  here in Spain. 


Paid £2200 for a '99 R1 in 2011.  Only 15k miles on the clock today and totally original, right down to having the undertray completely uncut.  Everyone seemed to cut those off back in the day.  Saw one in similar condition go recently on ebay for well over £4k so I'm hanging on to that beauty for a few more years yet. :)
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: robbo on 28 January 2019, 05:32:21 pm
When the R1 was launched in 1998, everyone wanted the blue one. Very few buyers fancied the one with the red saddle. Now an unmolested red/white one is very much the one to have. The blue one looks far nicer to me though.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 28 January 2019, 05:57:05 pm
Blue for me too.

Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: Ricky on 28 January 2019, 06:15:53 pm
I have seen many times a bike which could not be given away when they were new are now worth silly amounts of money .Seems odd to think it is simply that it was rare and a low volume seller that makes it worth more.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 28 January 2019, 07:23:41 pm
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I have seen many times a bike which could not be given away when they were new are now worth silly amounts of money .Seems odd to think it is simply that it was rare and a low volume seller that makes it worth more.
Suzuki RE5?

How about KTM RC8?  KTM's first and last proper sportsbike.

Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: ogri48 on 28 January 2019, 08:15:56 pm
In terms of being worth money as a classic.  The more standard the better.
You want 100% unmolested.  Discreet mods like an Ivans kit and rear shock to fix 'issues' I wouldn't think would do any harm.  But things that change the appearance I think are a no no.

Things climbing in value right now;
1992/3 CBR1000 Fireblade1998 - 2002 YZF1000 R12000-2010 VTR1000 SP1 and SP21994-8 Ducati 9161999 Suzuki GSX1300R Hayabusa (only the bronze ones)1993 Ducati Monster 900
Will the FZS1000 rise in value - maybe given 20 years or so.

Thats my thinking with me evo fatboy. it looks stock but has uprated coils/leads/cam and carb (hsr42 flatslide mikuni) the pipes obviously aint stock but still follow the shape of the oes. People spent fortunes altering them to their taste but destroying the classic silhouette and ultimately de valuing them. The back wheels got fatter over the years so some paid for a conversion lol, then twenty years after mine was built the purists wanted a softtail with a skinny arse end again so Harley obliged with a 16k new model one, like they do. When fatboys had my old 1340 single cam engine they were Harleys best seller, they couldn't get enough to satisfy demand (I still got the original purchase receipt for mine, 14k in 1998lol) now they are high tech and high powered, and in real terms a lot cheaper, they are one of their worst sellers. The sad truth is they were only ever good for grunting about at 55mph (ive had mine up to a ton but it wasn't nice for it or moi..), and everything made sense at that speed. You can wear an old pisspot and shades and never be uncomfy or be pushing a bike past its limits. Now they are quick, they make no sense at all. I know they aint everybodies cup of tea by any means, and I couldn't have one if it was my only bike, but for a useable classic that will be worth a few bob to my granddaughter one day, it fits the bill.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: Ricky on 29 January 2019, 04:22:27 pm
I read a article on line about a very big auction in Las Vegas and it said the bikes have to be 100% original and any deviation effects the price.   custom, special build and modded bikes do not appreciate very much and don't attract the big interest.
My bike will always be just my fun  bike, don't see any fun riding a classic bike that you are to scared to use it because it might get dirty and effort its value. I don't like getting my bike dirty,  but hay just wash it and go out again.
Just wandering if any one is keeping there FZS 1000 all standard, immaculate and all covered up waiting for the price to go up?
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 29 January 2019, 05:24:37 pm
If they are Ricky, they will be waiting a long long time.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: Ricky on 30 January 2019, 08:26:41 pm
I bet there is some one out there with a standard bike and all  covered and wrapped up.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 31 January 2019, 12:09:28 am
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I bet there is some one out there with a standard bike and all  covered and wrapped up.
Well it takes all sorts.

More likely there's a few dozen roond the world still stuck in crates. 
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 31 January 2019, 12:16:15 am
Kinda like this,

(https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/rwqJ6/s3/7-coolest-crate-finds-ever-main.jpg)
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: Ricky on 31 January 2019, 05:41:34 pm
How much would a FZS 1000 be worth still in its crate?
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 31 January 2019, 07:20:06 pm
Whatever you are prepared to pay. :lol
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 31 January 2019, 07:21:17 pm
But this is what you want to find.
Though the fella who stumbled across upset the purists by unpacking it, commisioning it, and the final sin riding it!
Lucky bugger.
https://vimeo.com/244554404
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: ogri48 on 31 January 2019, 09:37:19 pm
nice!!
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 01 February 2019, 12:18:04 am
Foccin extra nice!  I'd love one of em.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: ogri48 on 01 February 2019, 07:41:40 pm
a mate on the busa club has a jota he bought off the feller from "the stud" films , oliver tobias. He calls the bike joan Collins, for obvious reasons :) :)
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 02 February 2019, 06:35:32 pm
This for sale not far from me.  Full engine rebuild - full restoration.  Sadly he's asking 17K :eek
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7854/33041471158_ec9e10cb67_c.jpg)
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 02 February 2019, 06:42:27 pm
Same fella just sold this.  Imported, but just tidied up and given a comprehensive service.  He was asking 8.5K
The bars at a manageable height.
Seriously, those big Laverdas, to me, are just bone achkingly gorgeous. 

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4835/31047172537_8dc1e0e63d_c.jpg)
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: ogri48 on 02 February 2019, 09:14:44 pm
I remember well the days when they were the king of the road. 130mph has probably never felt more brutal :) 
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: robbo on 03 February 2019, 11:03:12 am
My pal is a dyed in the wool Laverda/BSA fanatic, having several of both. He was on the waiting list when Slaters were bringing in a limited number of SFC's, in the early 80's. Initially he lost out when the bikes were allocated to those on the list, but someone higher up the list cancelled, and my pal was first reserve so to speak. The dilemma then became, if I ride the bike as I want to, it will depreciate in value. If I don't ride it, what's the point of owning it. In the late 90's it financed a new Speed Triple, when the single swing arm model came out.
Title: Re: How much is your FZS 1000 worth?
Post by: Ricky on 21 February 2019, 10:50:20 pm
A Fzs 1000 on Facebook today,  o5, 1 owner from new 2500 miles with many  extras and in very good condition.
Private seller wants £4000 ovno . He is confident he can get it.Looking on Ebay and once again there are a few over £3000, even 1 at £3500.Also noticed there are 4 06 registered bikes which surprised me, all of them over £3000.I bought my 06 registered bike in March 16 with 15000 miles for £3000. I have done all the usual mods and spent about £800, wonder what my bike is worth?