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General => General => Topic started by: fazerscotty on 19 December 2022, 02:16:57 pm
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I've just been to see a Doctor. They think (LOL) that following 40 years of motorcycling (and a couple of accidents) that I may have developed Carpal Tunnel Syndrome in my left wrist. :eek
What effect will this have on my riding in the future? I know that several regular contributors on here have had similar diagnosis - what mods have you found eases the symptom's on your Fazer?
TIA
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I fitted a Magura hydraulic clutch system to mine, and had carpal tunnel relief surgery in both wrists now. Have the surgery, its only minor at outpatients, should be good for the rest of your natural then
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I've had 2 similar ops on my right hand.
One for Carpal Tunnel which is just above your wrist on the lowest part of your hand palm.
Also had another on the inside of my wrist at the bottom end of my thumb, but I can't remember what that one was called? I was awake when they did that one.
Both really helped with the pain, but good luck getting it sorted at the moment, there is a rather large queue for op's right now.
The pain won't go away so really does need to be sorted.
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I fitted a Magura hydraulic clutch system to mine, and had carpal tunnel relief surgery in both wrists now. Have the surgery, its only minor at outpatients, should be good for the rest of your natural then
That's got me thinking........
Thanks
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I've had 2 similar ops on my right hand.
One for Carpal Tunnel which is just above your wrist on the lowest part of your hand palm.
Also had another on the inside of my wrist at the bottom end of my thumb, but I can't remember what that one was called? I was awake when they did that one.
Both really helped with the pain, but good luck getting it sorted at the moment, there is a rather large queue for op's right now.
The pain won't go away so really does need to be sorted.
There's always a long queue for ops - I waited 2 years to have a blood clot removed from my leg!
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I've had 2 similar ops on my right hand.
One for Carpal Tunnel which is just above your wrist on the lowest part of your hand palm.
Also had another on the inside of my wrist at the bottom end of my thumb, but I can't remember what that one was called? I was awake when they did that one.
Both really helped with the pain, but good luck getting it sorted at the moment, there is a rather large queue for op's right now.
The pain won't go away so really does need to be sorted.
There's always a long queue for ops - I waited 2 years to have a blood clot removed from my leg!
Must differ depending upon the Area Health Authority then. Mine were just a few weeks between diagnosis and treatment
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Hi all.
Just throwing this out there.
For more years than I can remember I have been a member of Benenden hospital in deepest darkest Kent.
For a monthly fee you can be referred to Benenden by your doctor for operations that incur a lengthy wait on the nhs, you can also pay a family fee to include your children too.
It has been a godsend to my wife who has had many operations there and also myself who has had both knees cleaned up.
If you join now I think that there is a 6 month wait until you can use the hospital and let’s face it, that’s shorter than an nhs wait time.
I can only say good things about this hospital, it’s what the nhs was when I were a lad and what it should be now.
This is not bupa, you pay directly to the hospital but they can also refer you to a local hospital to you if they can.
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So, an update. Saw a nerve specialist today at Worcester Royal Hosp. He carried out a few nerve conductivity tests (electrocution basically) and yes I have Carpal Tunnel in both wrists and a trapped nerve in my left elbow.
Bollox - there goes a European trip later this year.
Going to google hydraulic clutches now :'( :'( :'(
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That’s a shame, sorry to hear your diagnosis. Has anyone thought of making or getting made a longer clutch operating arm. Why I say that is, it’s offered as an aftermarket accessory on the T7 Tenere. Supposed to give 2 finger clutch operation.
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On the FZ6 you can improve the heavy clutch and short friction zone by replacing the clutch arm with one from the MT-07 which is a few mm longer.
Even if there isn't a direct replacement on your bike, it might be cheaper/ easier to get something fabricated instead of paying out for a hydraulic system.
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Thanks for the ideas guy's.
I'm going to look at all options - at this stage, something which is easy to mod and install will be the direction I'll go in.
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Here is a DIY solution which might work:
DIY CLUTCH ARM EXTENSION/FULL VIDEO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJKjbhxLx_M#)
If you can't see the video, add this to YouTube.com/watch?v=yJKjbhxLx_M
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Little piece of advice from experience, when you feel it's the right time to get back on the bike, cover your wound the best you can before putting your gloves on.
Reason being, your gloves can reinfect it quite easily.
Been there, done that. :'(
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Howdy.
You'll have to electric shock tests first to confirm it's Carpel tunnel, well I did, plus I also found out I had Ulna nerve damage in my elbow area... Many yrs working as a Panel beater/welder & fabricator took its toll, lots of heavy work, lots of hammering, lots of vibration etc ... Carpel tunnel problems were always on the cards for me.
Had my right Carpel surgery 7yrs ago & still suffer with some numbness across my palm & weakness in my right hand, still drop stuff, so nerve damage tends not to ever recover, well not in my case, apparently my hand was a right mess inside when they opened me up so the surgeon told me after he'd spent more than twice the normal surgery time cutting & scrapping out all the extra tissue that had built up inside my hand due to my job ... left one still needs doing, but I don't fancy going thru all that pain & recovery again, they reckon it recovers quickly, does it bollox.
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I've had the nerve conductivity test (legal electrocution :'( ) which confirmed the symptoms and they found a trapped nerve in my left elbow as well.
Got an appointment on the 15th of this month to find out more.
If I can just get through this summer without any surgery, then that'll be fine by me.
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I've had the nerve conductivity test (legal electrocution :'( ) which confirmed the symptoms and they found a trapped nerve in my left elbow as well.
Got an appointment on the 15th of this month to find out more.
If I can just get through this summer without any surgery, then that'll be fine by me.
Been referred for surgery - hopefully the queue is long enough that I won't lose the summer.
Thinking of getting a OEM clutch operating arm and making my own extension at the moment.
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I follow a few youtubers using the T7 Tenere, and the longer operating arm will certainly make things easier for you. You’ve no doubt got some welding skills in your locker :lol , so will be a piece of cake for a man of your calibre.
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I follow a few youtubers using the T7 Tenere, and the longer operating arm will certainly make things easier for you. You’ve no doubt got some welding skills in your locker :lol , so will be a piece of cake for a man of your calibre.
"Thinking of getting a OEM clutch operating arm and making my own extension at the moment."
Haha lol. Got to find one first. NLA from the likes of Fowlers and CMSNL :eek
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Part no. 5LV 16340-00. There's one at Excite Motorsports in Australia, $60.59(spares @excitemotorsports.com.au)
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So, an update. Going in on Friday for the op on the left arm. :eek
Trapped nerve in the elbow and carpal tunnel to be resolved (well in one hand anyway!).
Haven't looked for any extended clutch arms yet, might just see how this pans out. It's just at the right time for me - two weeks off over Xmas, might as well make it four and come back fighting fit (?) in the New Year. :D
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Hope your op goes well for you, and hopefully resolves the problem. Just have to drink right handed over the holiday. I shouldn’t think that will be too much trouble for a man of your calibre.
The only snag with having so much time off at Christmas and being rather vulnerable is……….them :eek (child alert, child alert). The very best of luck with that :lol
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Hope your op goes well for you, and hopefully resolves the problem. Just have to drink right handed over the holiday. I shouldn’t think that will be too much trouble for a man of your calibre.
The only snag with having so much time off at Christmas and being rather vulnerable is……….them :eek (child alert, child alert). The very best of luck with that :lol
I've gotten the whole grandchild thing covered - I'm going to be in a lot of pain and mega grumpy ;) ;) ;)
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Best of luck with it and hope you have a full recovery, in some ways as you say useful it falls into the winter break, hope it does not put too much a dampener on festivities
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Best of luck with it and hope you have a full recovery, in some ways as you say useful it falls into the winter break, hope it does not put too much a dampener on festivities
I don't think it will affect the festivities - nobodies getting any presents now as I won't be able to go shopping lol. Anyhow, the good news is that the new clutch operating arm (MT-07) turned up today from Fowlers - I'll be fitting that irrespective and obviously finger food can be shoved in with my right hand. :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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Good to hear! does the MT 07 clutch arm work with the early FZS 600? The clutch is not that heavy but coming from my sons 125 its night and day lol
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Good to hear! does the MT 07 clutch arm work with the early FZS 600? The clutch is not that heavy but coming from my sons 125 its night and day lol
That I don't know I'm afraid - this is for a FZS1000. From first looks, it will go on and give a fair bit extra leverage. I did worry that the extra length would mean the arm may clash on something like the cam chain tensioner casing, but having offered it up without the anaesthetic still in the system, I reckon it will be good to go.
A total of 18 stitches - as they dug into my left elbow and retrieved a trapped nerve as well (I think this had been like this since I hit a deer in 2014). Healing well - just trying not to do too much lol.
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Glad your op went to plan, you just have to try and be a patient patient now :lol .
Merry Christmas. :thumbup
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Good to hear! does the MT 07 clutch arm work with the early FZS 600? The clutch is not that heavy but coming from my sons 125 its night and day lol
That I don't know I'm afraid - this is for a FZS1000. From first looks, it will go on and give a fair bit extra leverage. I did worry that the extra length would mean the arm may clash on something like the cam chain tensioner casing, but having offered it up without the anaesthetic still in the system, I reckon it will be good to go.
A total of 18 stitches - as they dug into my left elbow and retrieved a trapped nerve as well (I think this had been like this since I hit a deer in 2014). Healing well - just trying not to do too much lol.
Take it easy opening the wine and beer bottles this Christmas
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Glad your op went to plan, you just have to try and be a patient patient now :lol .
Merry Christmas. :thumbup
Merry Christmas to you too - patient? Where's my beer woman :rollin :rollin :rollin ?
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Take it easy opening the wine and beer bottles this Christmas
Ah, yes, that's why I got married - "in sickness and health" lol.
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Very glad to hear things went well and hope you have a lovely festive break
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Very glad to hear things went well and hope you have a lovely festive break
Thanks - I intend too. Just done a bit of retail therapy - Blue Spot removal tool, "O" Rings, rubber grease, vinyl stickers for the tailpiece. All for the Thou. Starting to feel better already. :lol :lol :lol
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First day back at work yesterday, my left arm hasn't felt as good as this in years. Still taking it easy though as I am not intending to miss anything this summer :woot
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Glad your op went well and has been successful. Do you have to take it easy using your left arm for a while, or is it full gas straight away?
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Glad your op went well and has been successful. Do you have to take it easy using your left arm for a while, or is it full gas straight away?
Been full on this week - been a month since I had the operation. I did have a bit of physio in the garage over the festive break :lol :lol :lol
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The cortisone injections into the knuckle joints have not lasted as long as previous ones, just 3 months down the line and the pain and restricted movement have returned. After having this treatment now for several years, I fear the impact lessens with time. Previously, the benefits lasted 9 to 12 months. Trigger finger is now present in the right hand first finger too. The combination of a working life in engineering and old age are catching up with me I fear. Its very frustrating as I was on the point of purchasing another bike, having decided on a Street Triple 765 r. Until, that is, I became aware of the TFT screen problems, so switched to the 675r. Now though, its on the back burner as I wait for treatment as I'm reluctant to cough up for a machine I may not be able to ride. I expected to have to convert the clutch to hydraulic anyway, but I think the sensible thing to do is get the hands working again first
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I finally got an appointment first week in April, but this was an assessment only. Remedial action looked to be towards July/August, with the hands slowly getting worse, right hand almost useless. So for the third time in 4 years, I coughed up and went private again. Seen within a week, cortisone injections in both hands on the day, left far better, right some improvement, appears to be improving slowly, but little chance off complete use returning as the index finger joint has dropped and is now misaligned. Now on the waiting list for a knuckle joint replacement. Not ridden now for a couple of months and tracktime seems a long way off, and the MOT ran out mid April
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I finally got an appointment first week in April, but this was an assessment only. Remedial action looked to be towards July/August, with the hands slowly getting worse, right hand almost useless. So for the third time in 4 years, I coughed up and went private again. Seen within a week, cortisone injections in both hands on the day, left far better, right some improvement, appears to be improving slowly, but little chance off complete use returning as the index finger joint has dropped and is now misaligned. Now on the waiting list for a knuckle joint replacement. Not ridden now for a couple of months and tracktime seems a long way off, and the MOT ran out mid April
Sorry to learn of your ailment. It does get tough when your body has got a few miles on the clock. When the weather forecast is favourable your head says “get the bike out”, whereas your body says “where do you think you’re going”.
At 77 I’ve been fairly lucky in the past, overcoming any bike crash, footballing and running injuries with no lasting effects. However at this years Dragon Rally I fell down a bank whilst carrying a load of camping gear, causing severe ligament damage to my left hand and upper right arm. The upper arm damage is causing the most problem, so that taking pain killers is the only way I can get out and ride at the moment. Going to Le Mans the other week was a real challenge. The hospital seems to think it will improve “in time”, which is one commodity I don’t have a lot of.
Hopefully your knuckle op will have you booking a track day at the earliest opportunity. Take care :)
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I finally got an appointment first week in April, but this was an assessment only. Remedial action looked to be towards July/August, with the hands slowly getting worse, right hand almost useless. So for the third time in 4 years, I coughed up and went private again. Seen within a week, cortisone injections in both hands on the day, left far better, right some improvement, appears to be improving slowly, but little chance off complete use returning as the index finger joint has dropped and is now misaligned. Now on the waiting list for a knuckle joint replacement. Not ridden now for a couple of months and tracktime seems a long way off, and the MOT ran out mid April
Sorry to learn of your ailment. It does get tough when your body has got a few miles on the clock. When the weather forecast is favourable your head says “get the bike out”, whereas your body says “where do you think you’re going”.
At 77 I’ve been fairly lucky in the past, overcoming any bike crash, footballing and running injuries with no lasting effects. However at this years Dragon Rally I fell down a bank whilst carrying a load of camping gear, causing severe ligament damage to my left hand and upper right arm. The upper arm damage is causing the most problem, so that taking pain killers is the only way I can get out and ride at the moment. Going to Le Mans the other week was a real challenge. The hospital seems to think it will improve “in time”, which is one commodity I don’t have a lot of.
Hopefully your knuckle op will have you booking a track day at the earliest opportunity. Take care :)
Hi Robbo, have you ever tried using a massage machine on your arm or hand?
After my 'incident' in October last year my arm still hurts as if i've just been punched but the nerve damage in my left hand is causing me the most issues even now.
But bearing in mind my hand was a scrunched up mess, where my fingers looked like they were permanently holding onto a golf ball i bought a massage gun and it really helped a lot. Now, in just a few months after buying the massage gun in January i think, my fingers are completely free and movable. The issue i'm still working on is sensitivity, and grip, as all 4 of my fingers have a feeling like they're recovering from being broken, although they weren't broken but did suffer paralysis on the whole left side of my body for a couple of months at least.
So i saw this massage gun online and as it was so stupidly cheap, i thought i had nothing to lose in trying it out and very glad that i did.
Whenever i watch a bit of telly i'll use the massage gun for 15 or 20mins, as many times as i can. I've recently been given meds for Neuropathic pain in my hands, apparently caused by a sync problem with my brain after a brain traumatic injury, but i'm not really certain that they're doing what was expected so not expecting much from them.
The massage gun comes with all different adaptors but the main one to use is round like a squash ball. At the end of the ball, opposite the massage gun will give out more pressure, and the sides of the ball are more for areas that are bony. Do the opposite and you'll soon know about it.
Rechargeable battery and 6 speed settings for your own comfort, i normally use it on setting 5 for my hand.
Well worth a dabble anyway, as i dread to think what condition my hand would be in now if i hadn't tried it out a few months ago.
From this lot, who are very reliable and i use their website regularly, it's also free postage and returns too. Takes 6 days for delivery by courier, but they will keep you updated all the way whereabouts it is.
https://www.temu.com/uk/1pc-massage-gun-deep-tissue-muscle-handheld-percussion-massager-for-body-back-and-neck-pain-ultra-compact-elegant-design-powered-by-high-torque-fathers-day-gift-mothers-day-gift-g-601099547691080.html? (https://www.temu.com/uk/1pc-massage-gun-deep-tissue-muscle-handheld-percussion-massager-for-body-back-and-neck-pain-ultra-compact-elegant-design-powered-by-high-torque-fathers-day-gift-mothers-day-gift-g-601099547691080.html?)
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Need to be careful with those massage guns, meant for use only on soft tissue. Id a calf strain from running a couple of weeks ago, so use done on the muscle and around the ankle and heel. Couldnt bear to put my foot down for a couple of days after as Id badly bruised the heel bone.
On a slightly more positive note, I got the bike out toady and rode it to the bike shop for MOT, hopefully pick it up later with a pass. Hands till sore but its only a mile each way.
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and its a pass, no advisories. Not really surprising, just 1200 miles last year, must get out more when I can
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Thanks darrsi :thumbup
I tried the link, got to the check out, but then had to order some other old tat to get to a minimum price order. So ordered from Amazon for less than the minimum, and will be here tomorrow. :)
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Thanks darrsi :thumbup
I tried the link, got to the check out, but then had to order some other old tat to get to a minimum price order. So ordered from Amazon for less than the minimum, and will be here tomorrow. :)
It is annoying, but they did that to keep the postage free, because people were ordering smaller whenever they saw something they fancied, myself included, and they realised to prevent several postage costs each time it's better for everyone involved if you order a several items that added up to £15 or anything above that price.
It does make perfect business sense, and i must confess i would see stuff i liked and just order it on the spot any times a week. Every now and then they'll have 'free postage' session for a short time where the minimum £15 spend is removed.
With me being off work injured for the last few months i've bought every tool i might ever need for the bike or home, and more, plus they have a brilliant selection of boots over there that really caught my attention, way more than i've ever seen over here before, but they sell them at stupid prices so really need to calm down from buying any more. :lol
Another trick that a work colleague taught me was that if you have your eye on something a bit pricier but are not in a hurry for the item, like a pair of boots or clothing for example, then choose your correct size using the size guide (in the box near the standard sizes), then add it to your cart but don't buy it straight away, just leave the item in your cart for a few days, then more often than not you'll find that they'll suddenly drop in price anyway or you'll personally be offered a special discounted price for a short period of time.
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Need to be careful with those massage guns, meant for use only on soft tissue. Id a calf strain from running a couple of weeks ago, so use done on the muscle and around the ankle and heel. Couldnt bear to put my foot down for a couple of days after as Id badly bruised the heel bone.
On a slightly more positive note, I got the bike out toady and rode it to the bike shop for MOT, hopefully pick it up later with a pass. Hands till sore but its only a mile each way.
Yeah, i know what you mean about the massage gun, but i mainly got it for and used it on the palm of my hand to shake some life into moving frozen look of my fingers and not only did it work, but quite quickly to, although i did use it a lot in the evenings every day. But i also tried the end part of the ball shaped adaptor and it nearly rattled my fingers, although the same adaptor is much softer if you use it on the sides instead for any possible sensitive areas.
It's something you find out about after a few minutes of usage though, so it's certainly no big deal, and they're so cheap to buy they're worth every penny.