woot woot.....................MT10 alert

[noggythenog]

Don't panic Noggy, I was only joking!  I even consider hipsters on Ducati Scramblers real bikers. And scooter riders for that matter. For me it's two wheels that make you a biker and it doesn't matter if you're on a Goldwing or a Melody. Mind, Harley riders... well, they're something else entirely. I'm not even sure they're from this planet. JOKE! Before someone misses the tongue in cheek.


I just made the colossal mistake of moving out of London when the prices went up and now I live 60 miles out and can't afford to move back so I either take the train (4500 per YEAR to stand) or use the bike. Which I'd have anyway.


I like the helicopter idea. I bet it's cheaper than Midland Mainline's season ticket....

Sorry mate........its just that i had only done 34, 499 miles last year and was feeling a bit shit about not making the mark but my mangina just couldnt take the stress


You should move to wales and get a job a in a vegetable packing factory and probably still end up with a better work/life balance

[MrGimly]

Thats the nicest looking bike I,ve seen from Yamaha in a long time especially since it,s a naked.

[Tmation]

I think it is a horrible bitsa looking thing, it looks unfinished especially around the radiator oil cooler area. Look a a BMW S100R or V4 Tuono to see how it should be done.



After seeing spy shots of the new KTM GT they have now announced it is being released.


I would like a test ride but this ticks all the boxes for me.


http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-new-bikes/ktm-officially-unveils-1290-super-duke-gt/28450.html

[AyJay]

Oh God yes. That is going to be awesome. But I can't deal with the clattering about on big V twins in town. I need the smoothness of a four, they're much more forgiving and useable, which is why the Gen 1 is such a great bike. 20mph to 160 in top, no problems at all.

[Didier9]

Looks like the cat took the spot normally reserved for the center stand. Not sure if there is going to be enough room or attach point for an aftermarket one.
That would suck.
Otherwise, I kinda like the Transformer look. I am sure I would get used to it. The bike does look awesome. Hopefully it will be a proper successor to the 1st gen we all love.

[Kenvis Repesco]

Not my cup of dargeeling...its seems bike manufacturers are running out of ideas and just trying cobble together anything as long as its different to last years offering. For me they are straying to far away from the original idea of what a good looking bike was. I love the look of my Fazer to me a lot of the appeal is opening the garage standing back and just standing there loving what you see. I didn't/ don't like the look of the FZ1 but its probably a really good bike but I am just saying aesthetics for me play a big part in buying a bike. I couldn't live with that fairing the whole bike looks like its been designed by four different designers each one having a completely different idea of how a bike should look. Maybe its because I grew up on a staple diet of RD's, Zeds, GSX's and LC's to me they were all beautiful looking bikes...but that not for me ta.

[Cellarman]

I quiet like the look of it apart from the front end, for me a bike with all that power needs a proper nose cone & screen, I wonder if they will do a faired or part faired version???

[Falcon 269]

To me it looks like Johnny Five at the front.  A pukka half-faired version with a few litres more fuel and it might be a better bike.  But a Gen 1 for the new age?  Ha-ha!

Oh, and it's about time that bike horns moved on from the silly little tinny circular things we've had for decades.  It probably has Lucas stamped on the back.

[Tmation]

Oh, and it's about time that bike horns moved on from the silly little tinny circular things we've had for decades.  It probably has Lucas stamped on the back.

Just be thankful we don't have to put up with the Prince of Darkness headlights and 7" thumbs anymore.  [size=78%] [/size]

[PaulSmith]

...
Just be thankful we don't have to put up with the Prince of Darkness headlights...

Have you tried any of the recent Kawasaki's? The Z1000sx and Versys both stand out for have really useless lights.

[bobdog]

like it ! but at 6 2 its gonna be too small for me 

[AyJay]

I just had a sit on one at the NEC. The riding position feels exactly the same as the Gen 1 save for slightly less leg room. Still no prices, but I'm buzzing ...

[coffee]

Tell you what,won't there be some FZ1's at the right money ? I think you'll get a new one for around £ 6500/7000.You could put all kinds of goodies on it,Gillies rearsets,acropovic can,trick levers,etc for another grand,what a tool that would make for the money! Is the MT10 worth upwards of £3000 more?

[DekF]

You can trick the FZ1 as much as you like. It'll still not be as fast, handle as well, or have traction control, slipper clutch, etc., etc.,. The MT10, like the rest of the top nakeds, is leap years ahead. The FZ1 is a 10 yearold design & looks it. If I didn't have an s1r I'd be on this like a shot. It'll be a hoot to ride.

[stevierst]

A proper flat barred R1, we've been needing one for years!
Got fed up of waiting and built my own a couple of times.

Best bikes ever!

[AyJay]

Tell you what,won't there be some FZ1's at the right money ? I think you'll get a new one for around £ 6500/7000.You could put all kinds of goodies on it,Gillies rearsets,acropovic can,trick levers,etc for another grand,what a tool that would make for the money! Is the MT10 worth upwards of £3000 more?

Ah, the age old question of value versus desirability. Yes, a heavily modded FZ1 would be a weapon, but you'd be putting money into a bike that will be less desirable in 3 years time. Is it worth it? I dunno, the Gen 1 was worth modding because it was (and still is!) such characterful and usable bike, but the FZ1, not so much. Simon Hargrieves built a very rapid Fazer and PB featured another naked FZ1 which was excellent, but I think it'd only be worth doing the same to a bargain second hand FZ1, not a new one.

The MT-10 brings Yamaha's street bike bang up to date to compete head on with the BMW S1000R and Tuono V4 and there's a lot of value in that.... as Dek with the S1R suggests.

It was also interesting to compare the Tuono to the MT. The MT's design, fit and finish is incredibly precise. Just looking at the routing of pipes for the oil cooler, water pump and so on - the clearances between them and the engine is half a centimetre whereas on the Tuono it's more like one centimetre. It's so compact every item looks almost like a it should be on life size Tamiya model.

And it has obviously been designed to be accessorised to death. The tiny guard for the clocks is held on with four big fasteners so that's going to be dead easy for aftermarket guys to create screens for, and the rear end is the same. Four screws and the numberplate hanger gets swapped out for a rack or a better looking hanger. In fact, the rear end looks like they just gave up, styling wise. There's not much of it either, so pillions will hate it. Those weird triangular lumps either side of the radiator hold the coolant overflow bottles, by the way. They probably help direct air at the rad too, but they are odd looking.

From a distance, it doesn't look that special, but close up, you can see it's an R1M, and that's not so very different from Rossi's bike. Honestly, looking at it close up, it's deeply desirable.

I had a sit on the KTM Superduke GT too, Tmation. Very very comfy, 23 litre tank, honking great 1300 twin, nearly as much power and torque as my ZZR1400 but way lighter.... It'll be an utter weapon on the road, I think.

[AyJay]

Ha, double posted there. How do you delete posts....

[coffee]

You can trick the FZ1 as much as you like. It'll still not be as fast, handle as well, or have traction control, slipper clutch, etc., etc.,. The MT10, like the rest of the top nakeds, is leap years ahead. The FZ1 is a 10 yearold design & looks it. If I didn't have an s1r I'd be on this like a shot. It'll be a hoot to ride.

You're right,I think I was a bit blinkered with the FZ1,after looking at the MT10 never realized how dated they actually are.