There could be further negotiation, though the EU appears to be saying very firmly that that will not be an option.
Again, pretty much everybody agrees that NO DEAL is not an option. The EU won’t that say that right now, but the reality is though it wouldn’t hurt them anything as much as it would hurt us, they simply don’t want to go there either.
Everything to do with the EU has been negotiated with us, nothing has been imposed on us.
Im sure Grease also negotiated,
In other words a true BREXIT would mean the end of the United Kingdom and Great Britain.
They call it 'Qualified Majority Voting' don't they?. Ie: the UK can vote against something, but still be forced to implement it because it was out voted by the other member states.
Why do you present that as a dooms day Armageddon to make an anti Brexit point and yet that is EXACTLY what you want to happen with your quest for scottish independence.
It's a fact that the EU has "imposed" over 52000 laws on us since 1990
You may add the poking fun symbol but you really come across as having a problem the the English.
I could do this 52000 or more times but would be simpler if you googled it like I did. And nowhere did I say they're all objectionable and negatively impact us.
No, not at all. I do have a problem with English politics. It’s simple – you guys get the governments you deserve – I want that opportunity too. Or perhaps English folks don’t like Independent minded ScotsOk, you must get it then. We want to be in control of our own destiny, just like you do.This is me having to explain things over and over. Didn't you get my analogy of a toxic partner dictating to you....Of course you did so why are you still asking the same question about what Brexiteers want. I've also previously explained that everyone, depending on their own experiences voted to leave for their own reasons.You can imply that we are uneducated, thick, misinformed or racist but we voted out because of what we saw, felt and what was affecting us.Do I give a fuck if the price of German cars go up.... No, even though I drive one. I'll buy Japenese or pay the extra. I really couldn't give two fucks. OK, but you surely you don’t want to leave the EU because you love it’s rules? So what are these objectional laws – the ones you dislike and why?Or is this all about freedom of movement, and fishing?
VNA; OK, but you surely you don’t want to leave the EU because you love it’s rules? So what are these objectional laws – the ones you dislike and why?
Dazza; And if you for one moment think I'm going to trawl through 52741 laws that the EU has imposed on us since 1990 you been drinking too much of that Scottish whiskey. It's quite plain and simple, and I can only speak for myself.... The EU is undemocratic, we didn't vote them in, we can't vote them out...... That, right there is the main reason I voted to leave. My Great Grandad served in world war 1 and was wounded by machine gun in the leg. Luckily he survived. My Grandad served in World war 2 in the desert under Monty. He never spoke about it right up to the day he died. I'm not going to go into detail about my service because it's not important. I don't believe in God but If I ever met up with them again after this life is over, I want to look them in the eye, knowing I didn't just vote to hand power over to the very nation they fought against for us. There are many of us Englishmen who feel the same and will never change our minds. I've served with Scots, proud Scots, good men, solid men. Men who were not only proud of being Scottish but we're also proud of being British. I know this, you don't represent all Scottish. I bet the fishermen would see you as a Judas. The best thing for all is that you just accept.... We had the vote, it didn't go your way, that's it,deal with it and move on. Get behind it and let's all make the most of any opportunities that come from it. Stop being the voice of doom and gloom. You wanted an independent Scotland... I don't blame you but that didn't go your way either........ It's all starting to make sense now why you cant let it go...... Don't hate us, don't hate English politics, it's all corrupt, it's all a load of bollocks. We all know that and we know there's nothing we can do about it. We all just make the best of what we've got. What we don't want or need is the EU thinking they know best for us too.... Because they don't,they don't give a fuck either.... Look at all the riots going on in France at the moment. All up in arms over taxation. The influx of Moslem men sexually assaulting German women... How do you think that's going end. Europe is a pressure cooker waiting to explode, surely you can see that. I'm out of this thread now, it's obvious where I stand and why. You just need to accept you didn't get the result you wanted. If it had gone the other way, I for one would've just accepted and got on with it.
When there's been a referendum on the matter (Leave EU), the MP's should respect the majority view of the voters within their constituency area and vote accordingly as a formality. Why should one person make out they know better than the thousands who voted otherwise?.
I'm never voting ever again in any election/referendum if that happens.
I bet the fishermen would see you as a Judas.
Ok lets have another referendum but the questions HAVE to include a No Deal exit as well as May's deal or stay.I voted to leave - I didn't vote for a deal - I didn't vote to give the EU 39 billion, none of that was on the ballot paper.And there should be NO debates in the run up from either side about the the pros and cons and lies and projects of fear or buses or gov printed pamphlets. It should be based on what we have learnt over the past 18 months and witnessed.If a no deal leave is on the ballot paper that is what most people will vote for - my prediction. We leave - the EU does not pass go they do not collect 39Billion. We then negotiate the bits we want how ever long the politicians want to take pissing about doing it, but we do it from a position of out and holding all the cash. Has anyone seen an itemised bill from the EU for the 39 billion.
And there should be NO debates in the run up from either side about the the pros and cons and lies and projects of fear or buses or gov printed pamphlets.
Has anyone seen an itemised bill from the EU for the 39 billion.
To get that you would have to elect the closet racists – ie UKIP –
Quote from: VNA on Today at 09:39:34 PMTo get that you would have to elect the closet racists – ie UKIP –
Have they not seen the main Brussels bureaucrats all old WHITE men giving out their demands for quotas on migrants that countries must take, where is the diversity in the EU high command where are all the women and people of colour.