Author Topic: BREXIT (Read 214570 times)

Hedgetrimmer · « **Reply #175 on:** 12 November 2018, 08:45:19 pm »

But surely Germoney will pick up the tab for the gap we leave?

Oh no, I forgot...on balance they give us more than we give them. Why on earth would they have us back? This country has nothing to offer the world.

VNA - BMW Wank · « **Reply #176 on:** 12 November 2018, 10:33:49 pm »

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So they certainly won't let us back in

For them to let us back in, we would have to first leave.

Hedgetrimmer · « **Reply #177 on:** 12 November 2018, 10:53:52 pm »

4 months to go. If May's deal is voted against in Parliament, the clock is still ticking.

So why do you think the EU would want us to stay in? What's in it for them?

Grahamm · « **Reply #178 on:** 12 November 2018, 11:17:18 pm »

Quote from: YamFazFan on 12 November 2018, 09:10:28 am

I had to do a double take to make sure, but he genuinely did wear a grey hoodie anorak with the hood hanging out and a red tie for the service of remembrance at The Cenotaph yesterday.

Ah, yes.

Meanwhile, behind him was Tony Blair who should have been investigated at The Hague for war crimes (let alone him having the gall to wear a poppy after sending our troops into Iraq) and beside him was Theresa May who sells British weapons to the Saudis who then use them to bomb buses full of Yemeni children...

But, no, it's Corbyn who is the problem.

YamFazFan · « **Reply #179 on:** 12 November 2018, 11:55:45 pm »

But if Jeremy Corbyn is a republican why would he join in with singing the national anthem?.

It's a perectly valid view to hold. Not everyone supports the monarchy.

mtread · « **Reply #180 on:** 13 November 2018, 12:01:24 am »

Simply because it's the National Anthem. The words are immaterial.

YamFazFan · « **Reply #181 on:** 13 November 2018, 08:01:53 am »

Quote from: mtread on 13 November 2018, 12:01:24 am

Simply because it's the National Anthem. The words are immaterial.

I'd never thought of the words as being immaterial. When I sing God Save The Queen I actually mean it.

Corbyn didn't used to sing it though did he?. Even up until early on in his leadership he wasn't singing it at public events I don't think.

I wonder what changed since then

mtread · « **Reply #182 on:** 13 November 2018, 09:16:58 am »

Well as a very large proportion of the population don't believe in God, that's going to be difficult. Do you think the Germans literary meant 'Deutschland uber alles' when they sang it? O hang on a minute....

YamFazFan · « **Reply #183 on:** 13 November 2018, 09:31:37 am »

I believe in god and just assumed all the other people singing it did too.

I still can't find an explanation as to why Jeremy Corbin sings The National Anthem now, but didn't previously

Anyone?.

mtread · « **Reply #184 on:** 13 November 2018, 12:08:13 pm »

Personally, I couldn't care less. Anyway, what's that got to do with Brexit?

YamFazFan · « **Reply #185 on:** 13 November 2018, 01:46:56 pm »

Quote from: mtread on 13 November 2018, 12:08:13 pm

Personally, I couldn't care less.

No I expect you don't

lol. I do though. I'll just have to do my own research

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In his first post accompanying the thread title, the OP says it's for other politics as well.

mtread · « **Reply #186 on:** 13 November 2018, 02:48:43 pm »

I still don't care.....

Theresa doesn't know the right moves to 'Dancing Queen', but I don't care about that either

YamFazFan · « **Reply #187 on:** 13 November 2018, 05:10:35 pm »

Quote from: mtread on 13 November 2018, 02:48:43 pm

Theresa doesn't know the right moves to 'Dancing Queen'

I'm in agreement with you there. 100%. It's cringe inducing isn't it

. Do they deliberately make an arse of it, sort of ironic like, or are they really actually trying?. I think the sad truth is that it's most likely the latter

VNA - BMW Wank · « **Reply #188 on:** 13 November 2018, 05:32:15 pm »

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But if Jeremy Corbyn is a republican why would he join in with singing the national anthem?.

Perhaps you haven’t noticed but Mr Corbyn is the leader of the opposition and therefore your next Prime Minister in waiting.

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When I sing God Save The Queen I actually mean it.

For focs sake.

Never sung it, never will sing it.

YamFazFan · « **Reply #189 on:** 13 November 2018, 05:43:32 pm »

Quote from: VNA on 13 November 2018, 05:32:15 pm

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When I sing God Save The Queen I actually mean it.

For focs sake.

....and I'm not refering to The Sex Pistols version either

tommyardin · « **Reply #190 on:** 13 November 2018, 07:13:22 pm »

Whats all the fuss about I heard tonight on the telly that Theresa has it sorted

Is there a widow left open I thought I felt a draft?

YamFazFan · « **Reply #191 on:** 13 November 2018, 07:17:41 pm »

Quote from: YamFazFan on 13 November 2018, 09:31:37 am

I still can't find an explanation as to why Jeremy Corbin sings The National Anthem now, but didn't previously

Quote from: YamFazFan on 13 November 2018, 01:46:56 pm

I'll just have to do my own research .

The consensus of opinion is that the reason he never used to sing it was because he's a commited republican and that the explanation as to why he does sing it now is because he came under pressure from his own MP's and Cabinet collegues to do so. Particularly after the 75th anniversary of The Battle Of Britain service.

VNA - BMW Wank · « **Reply #192 on:** 13 November 2018, 08:29:35 pm »

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The consensus of opinion is that the reason he never used to sing it was because he's a commited republican and that the explanation as to why he does sing it now is because he came under pressure from his own MP's and Cabinet collegues to do so. Particularly after the 75th anniversary of The Battle Of Britain service.

I don’t know whether he sang that abominable awful anthem in the past or not, but as I have already pointed out, he is the leader of the opposition, that means he may become the Prime Minister one day. He has to follow protocol. Simple.

Meanwhile May has stuck a deal with Juncker. No hard boder in Ireland as we will remain in the customs union. Now we have to see if the government can agree on it and put it to the parliament. This is where the real fun starts.

mtread · « **Reply #193 on:** 13 November 2018, 08:45:02 pm »

So...... if we agree terms with the EU that we stay in the Customs Union and most of the Single Market without a backstop (ie without an end date)........... then we might as well........... stay in the EU

At least I think that's what Arron Banks said.

YamFazFan · « **Reply #194 on:** 13 November 2018, 09:06:04 pm »

Quote from: VNA on 13 November 2018, 08:29:35 pm

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The consensus of opinion is that the reason he never used to sing it was because he's a commited republican and that the explanation as to why he does sing it now is because he came under pressure from his own MP's and Cabinet collegues to do so. Particularly after the 75th anniversary of The Battle Of Britain service.

I don’t know whether he sang that abominable awful anthem in the past or not, but as I have already pointed out, he is the leader of the opposition, that means he may become the Prime Minister one day. He has to follow protocol. Simple.

HAS to?. Surely he has a choice?. The impression I get is that he was basically presurised into singing it.

VNA - BMW Wank · « **Reply #195 on:** 13 November 2018, 09:32:03 pm »

Protocol - the official procedure or system of rules governing affairs of state or diplomatic occasions.

At offical functions when Mr Corbyn becomes Prime Minister he will be representing the country - not himself.

For example, whilst in the past he has always worn a white poppy on rememberance day, protocol dictates he must now wear a British Legion red poppy. Once he retires as Prime Minister or as Leader of the Opposition I think you will find he will once again wear a white poppy, unless, that is, performing offical state functions as a former Prime Minister.
The country has to come before the individual when holding such high office. Like I say simple.

Hedgetrimmer · « **Reply #196 on:** 13 November 2018, 10:05:36 pm »

Sorry VNA, I think he already promised himself to Diane Abbott

YamFazFan · « **Reply #197 on:** 13 November 2018, 10:14:02 pm »

Yes simple if you already know that that's the one of the rules of holding such a high office. I didn't, as indicated by my asking the question several times in previous posts.

When I was googling it earlier none of the results said that he had to conform, Ie sing The National Anthem.

Ta you've answered my question

mtread · « **Reply #198 on:** 13 November 2018, 10:24:33 pm »

I still don't care. At the end of the day, whether he sings it or not, what dances Theresa can or cannot do, is unimportant. It's just froth, only worthy of front page news for the tabloids.

In other news May has pulled off a fantastic result.
She's turned the country from a 2 way split - Leavers vs Remainers.......
Into a 3 way split - Hard Brexit vs Soft Brexit vs No Brexit

Unbelievable!

YamFazFan · « **Reply #199 on:** 13 November 2018, 10:51:40 pm »

I'm reluctant to say this and it's not with any great enthusiasm at all, but I'm prepared to say I've probably been won over by the arguments.

On the balance of things, as they stand at the moment, I think it would be best to stay in