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Dead Clocks ?
« on: 19 October 2013, 12:38:55 pm »
My clocks aren't displaying anything
no rev counter,
no mileage,
no speedo,
no fuel gauge,
no neutral indication and no oil warning light.
The clocks still light up when lights are turned on and left and right indicator still shows as does High beam.
Ive checked all the fuses under the seat and none have blown, would it be fair to say the clocks are Kaput or could anything else cause this (the bike still runs ok)
If i buy some replacement clocks will it show the mileage of the new clocks or the mileage that the bike has covered.
 
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Re: Dead Clocks ?
« Reply #1 on: 19 October 2013, 12:59:06 pm »
As fuses are fine next step is pull apart the connector blocks under the tank and under the left fairing infill, clean with contact cleaner and reconnect, at no point am I saying it's not something more serious. Like the clock unit, but its a free to do check!
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Re: Dead Clocks ?
« Reply #2 on: 19 October 2013, 01:02:35 pm »
Could be the backup fuse, not sure if it is in the fuse box of the 98-99 600, but it is under the tank of the 400 which the first 600 is very similiar to.
Follow punkstigs advice befor assuming the clocks are dead.

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Re: Dead Clocks ?
« Reply #3 on: 19 October 2013, 01:14:53 pm »
Thanks guys the connector block is clean and fully inserted, i'll have a look under the tank for any back up fuses and if not that i'll assume the clocks are goosed.
 
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Re: Dead Clocks ?
« Reply #4 on: 19 October 2013, 01:47:18 pm »
If the backup fuse is not under the tank, try under the passenger section of the seat in the storage section inside the left hand cowling

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Re: Dead Clocks ?
« Reply #5 on: 20 October 2013, 06:56:05 am »
There's obviously power to the clocks. And it's probably not an electronic chip issue otherwise all the inidicator lights would still work.


I once took my clocks apart, but it's ten years ago and I can't remember why I did it.


In any event maybe a connection inside the clocks has come loose or corroded.


Or you may find that a wire has failed at the steering head (because they get bent every time you turn the bars).
To check them you will need a wiring diagram and a continuity or multi meter).
I think there's a wiring diagram somewhere on this website, and if you can't find it, I've got one which I can e-mail to you.








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Re: Dead Clocks ?
« Reply #6 on: 20 October 2013, 12:13:43 pm »
All items mentioned as not working are supplied by the Signal fuse with the backup also suppling power to the Speedo.
It looks ver like a broken wire or corroded wire as previously mentioned
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Re: Dead Clocks ?
« Reply #7 on: 20 October 2013, 05:39:42 pm »
Hi all I've had a look under the seat and tank and cant find any back up fuse
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Re: Dead Clocks ?
« Reply #8 on: 20 October 2013, 05:55:33 pm »
Does your bike have the a time clock and hazard warning lights switch? Does it have one or 2 buttons on the clocks?
 

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Re: Dead Clocks ?
« Reply #9 on: 20 October 2013, 05:58:33 pm »
Does your bike have the a time clock and hazard warning lights switch? Does it have one or 2 buttons on the clocks?
 
If his bike is a 98/99 as per his avatar then the answer is no clock or hazards
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Re: Dead Clocks ?
« Reply #10 on: 20 October 2013, 06:32:56 pm »
Yes, but some of the 2000 models were sold in late 1999. If his was a very late 99 then it could be either, the only way to know for sure is if he tells us.

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Re: Dead Clocks ?
« Reply #11 on: 20 October 2013, 08:50:48 pm »
Hi guys its a 1999 (T) it only has one button on the clocks for the trip.

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Re: Dead Clocks ?
« Reply #12 on: 20 October 2013, 10:17:26 pm »
No backup fuse then.
The signal fuse supplies all the power to the parts you mention as not working.
12v power is supplied on a brown wire to the plug at the clocks. Your first check is to see if there is 12v power getting this far when the ignition is switched on and if there is any corrosion around it. If there is 12v power here then remove the clock and open the rear and follow the wire as it may be broken. Plug it back in check if 12v power is getting through the plug. I have seen a few people replace items when all that was wrong was a broken connector in a plug.
Let us know the result

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Re: Dead Clocks ?
« Reply #13 on: 03 November 2013, 08:48:23 am »
Hi everyone and thanks for the replies I changed the clocks and everything works as it should something must have shorted in the old clocks.
Only problem I have now is the new clocks read 12000 miles less so will flag up at next MOT.
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Re: Dead Clocks ?
« Reply #14 on: 03 November 2013, 12:37:59 pm »
You could open up your old clocks
As unfazed said all the bits not working are fed 12v by the brown wire, you could trace where that runs into the clocks and onto the board, bad solder joint, damaged track on the board, something like that. Should be an easy  one to find, and not far in as you have listed all that it feeds except temperature and fuel lights, which wont normally be on anyway.
Not on ground side as you list no neutral or oil light. so definitely the 12v feed side
 
get you over your mileage problem.