swing arm exchange

[squidgy]

Not sure if it been asked on here yet but out of curiosity does anyone know what swing arms pretty much swap straight over on to 2001 Fazer so that you can have the bigger 180 tyre on.


like r1, r6, fazer1000, newer fz6 etc or off honda kawasaki suzuki anything just want to change and upgrade suspension at the same time.




Thanks in advance people.

[Motorbreath]

If it is just for the fat tyre, you can put a 170/60 one, it is actually the perfect size for 5" wheels. Also there is a member who put a Thunderace wheel with spacers (the axle is thicker).
I suspect that it is possible to change the bearings of the thunderace wheel to compensate, no spacers needed. Even better, I think the FZR 1000 Exup wheel is straight fit, but not sure.

TRX850 front wheel (120) is a straight fit too. I am very happy with the 120/70 - 170/60 set. I did not like the 120/70 - 160/60, the bike felt worse than standard, at very fast corners it wasn't good. So it is possible that just changing the rear tyre feels weird too. The member who first put the TRX wheel was happy with a 120/60 - 160/60.

[squidgy]

i got 120/60 160/60 at the moment but as good as it is in the corners i have always got the back tyre to the limit on corners so just feel that bigger tyre will do me better just a bit easier to get a pair of 120 180 than 120 170 but will look into it thanks for your in put is a great help

[Slaninar]

i got 120/60 160/60 at the moment but as good as it is in the corners i have always got the back tyre to the limit on corners so just feel that bigger tyre will do me better just a bit easier to get a pair of 120 180 than 120 170 but will look into it thanks for your in put is a great help

You changed front wheel, or just put fatter tyre? 120 on standard wheel can cause funny steering, stranger falling into corners.
Putting fatter, heavier tyres will not help your cornering that much. Get a proper race bike if driving it to the edge is what gets you off.
Just my 2 cents.

[Motorbreath]

I'd never put a 120 tyre on the stock rim either.

Tyre width has nothing to do with reaching the edges. It is about the size of the contact patch. If you want to lean more put pointy models, normally the sportier the rubber, the further the limit.

Also a 170 tyre width is in real life much closer to 160 than to a 180, but it is the tallest.

[squidgy]

i got 120/60 160/60 at the moment but as good as it is in the corners i have always got the back tyre to the limit on corners so just feel that bigger tyre will do me better just a bit easier to get a pair of 120 180 than 120 170 but will look into it thanks for your in put is a great help

You changed front wheel, or just put fatter tyre? 120 on standard wheel can cause funny steering, stranger falling into corners.
Putting fatter, heavier tyres will not help your cornering that much. Get a proper race bike if driving it to the edge is what gets you off.
Just my 2 cents.

no i just changed the tyre as the tyres i prefer only tend to come in the 120 on the front and either 160 or 180 for the back thats why i was looking at changing the back wheel for the 180 tyre.


also i wern't looking at putting the 180 tyre on the standard rim. don't need a race bike to lean the bike over in a corner all i said was that i am getting the back tyre to the limit the front with the 120 on still got about half inch either side not used.




but can see now i am basically changing the wrong number on the tyre i need to be going more 160/70 on the back rather than sticking with the 160/60 or going 180.

[Motorbreath]

160/70 is weird as green dogs. Also that "70" could mean a tall wall and a flat surface, so you wouldn't solve it. What brand and model of tyres do you have?
Might your problems come from the pinched and smaller 120/60? You can scrape the whole bike with its standard sizes, and still there is a little bit of margin for the front 110.

[squidgy]

i run maxxis super sports and the front is alright if they done a 110 i would fit it but they don't unfortunately its the back one that going to the limit so that's the tyre i am interested in changing.[size=78%] [/size]

[Motorbreath]

I meant that the 120/60 could be forcing you to lean more than necessary for a given speed. Bikes geometry is tricky.

On the other  hand, reaching the edge of the rear tyre before the one of the front is the common thing for most of bikes. It doesn't mean you cannot lean any more, it deforms a lot allowing you to lean more. The dangerous thing is the front one, but the FZS scrapes long before it reaches the edge (not sure with the low profile and pinched tyre you have), at least with the tyres I know (Pirelli and Dunlop). Please take this advice carefully, it may be wrong.

[squidgy]

ah right sorry read it wrong lol yeah i have had it scraping only a couple of times but thanks for your advice it has widened my knowledge about tyres in general probs saved me a bit on buying bits but knowing me at some point will still put a wider tyre and wheel on it just for looks i like the look of wider tyres and it (hopefully) will either not make a difference or improve it at the same time but can always change back if it makes the handling crap cant see why is its that size on th4e newer fazers.