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Heated grip woes....and associated problems.
« on: 22 January 2014, 12:11:13 am »
When i bought the bike last year, it already had the heated grips fitted, haven't a clue what make they are but they have proved to be very handy the last few times i've been out on the bike in cold weather this winter.
But i digress... Last Sunday, i went for a spin to visit a couple of friends on Anglesey, some 20-odd miles away from where i live.
I used the heated grips on the way, got to matey's and stayed for a cuppa and a chat, as you do.
An hour later i came out to a flat battery, i had left the damn grips turned on, anyway it started easily enough with a bump start and off i went, so visit matey two, called at the petrol station about four miles away and the bike started on the button afterwards.
I noticed on the way to matey two's, that the left grip was loose, turning as freely as the twistgrip, so i assume that the heat build-up when they were left on for the hour i was visiting, had melted the glue that holds it to the bars?
Power for the grips come directly from the battery, so obviously they can be accidentally left on, as i did.
So, is there anywhere i can source a switchable power supply, such as the ignition circuit, so that this problem doesn't happen again?

When i got home, i took the battery off to charge it, i do have an optimate but the bike is outside under a cover, so it isn't convenient to charge it while it's on the bike, sod trailing wires out of the front window in this weather!
Anyway, as i said, i took the battery off the bike, which i found to be quite a wind-up, seeing as i couldn't get any grip on the beggar, so i resorted to threading a thin cable tie through each of the battery terminals and lifting it out that way, otherwise i would have had to have been a touch more inventive!
One of the cells has a slight bulge, as was made known to me when it was at the dyno mans last year, due he said, to the failure of the rec\reg unit, so i expect that the bulge didn't help with the removal of it.
Anyone else had a problem removing the battery?

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Re: Heated grip woes....and associated problems.
« Reply #1 on: 22 January 2014, 08:04:56 am »
Hiya fella,


Probably your best bet is to fit a relay that's operated/energised by the ignition being on - such as the rear brake light feed to the brake switch. Wire the feed to your grips through the "common" & "normally open" (C & N/O) contacts of this relay. This will ensure you never leave them on again - they will always turn off when you turn the bike off.


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Re: Heated grip woes....and associated problems.
« Reply #2 on: 22 January 2014, 08:34:58 am »
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170709632237?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Put one of these onto the indicator fuse, put the original indicator fuse into the bottom slot, add a 5a fuse to the upper slot and wire your grips +ve to it.

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« Reply #3 on: 22 January 2014, 08:48:17 am »
+1 for the piggyback fuse gizmo. Simple, cheap, quick to fit and effective.

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« Reply #4 on: 22 January 2014, 09:02:54 am »
Cheers guys, i shall look into it, better to get advice from those who know.

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« Reply #5 on: 22 January 2014, 10:42:45 am »
+2 for the tap, it's what I use for my grips.  The only niggle is that you can't get the lid of the fuse box closed properly, but I've not had an issue yet with water ingress and it's been in for 2 years.
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« Reply #6 on: 22 January 2014, 03:39:46 pm »
With the battery, make a loop of strong string and thread it round the battery with enough slack to get your hand in before you install it on the bike.
When you want to remove the battery you put your hand under the string and lift it out, Simples!
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« Reply #7 on: 23 January 2014, 07:49:26 am »
« Last Edit: 23 January 2014, 07:49:59 am by spencer_foxwell »

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« Reply #8 on: 23 January 2014, 09:23:54 am »
Nice one Spencer, good informative video.

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« Reply #9 on: 24 January 2014, 08:38:29 am »
Delboy to the rescue!
www.youtube.com/embed/HuTnho4PYtg



I do love Delboy but he's SUCH a perfectionist!  You can certainly do it his way or just get a £2 fuse tap and have the job done in 5 minutes.
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Re: Heated grip woes....and associated problems.
« Reply #10 on: 24 January 2014, 01:47:04 pm »
I'll probably go for the fuse tap option, thanks for that Buzz.
Now, regarding the loose left-hand grip, seeing as i didn't originally fit the heated grips, can anyone tell me how they are secured to the bars please?
I'm assuming that when they were left on, the heat may have caused the "glue?" to melt and thus detached the grip from the bars?

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« Reply #11 on: 24 January 2014, 02:25:13 pm »
can anyone tell me how they are secured to the bars please?


I had to take the left Oxford grip off mine last week as it stopped working, looks like it was just glued on judging by the brown flaky stuff that came out.  The inside of the grip was made up of a hard plastic tube about 3mm thick which just slipped over the end of the bar, the heating wire and rubber grip were on the outside of this hard tube.   I re-soldered the broken wire then used some hair spray to get it back on.  The bar end seems to keep it pretty snug up against the switch gear anyway, but it's not rotating at the mo.
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« Reply #13 on: 25 January 2014, 12:16:29 am »
Cheers for the info guys.

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« Reply #14 on: 25 January 2014, 12:19:33 am »
Just wrap some insulation tape round the bar, that should give enough frictional grip to hold the hotgrip in place