Author Topic: Not loving my tires. (Read 9559 times)

brooker81 · « **on:** 02 May 2015, 07:58:36 am »

I'm running bt23's no feeling from the rear at all. Maybe it's just because I haven't been out for 6 month what should I change to ?

NorthWestern · « **Reply #1 on:** 02 May 2015, 08:44:59 am »

One man's meat is another man's poison etc but I rather like the pr3's. Then again I do a lot of miles and got fed up of changing second hand ex race tires every few weeks.... Had a maxxis supermax touring. I found that awful, bike felt funny, little wet weather grip, lasted well though. Dunlop q2 were great but made the bike feel heavy to steer.

Grandma · « **Reply #2 on:** 02 May 2015, 09:03:41 am »

Quote from: brooker81 on 02 May 2015, 07:58:36 am

I'm running bt23's no feeling from the rear at all. Maybe it's just because I haven't been out for 6 month what should I change to ?

Used to run Pirelli Angel ST on my Gen 1 Fazer 1000,longevity and good grip.http://www.visordown.com/reviews/kit/tyres/pirelli-angel-st/5213.html also have them on my Fazer 8 as it came with Bridgestones which I hated as felt as if front was going to wash out.
Angel ST still available but not sure if they are phasing them out.
Nothing but good reports on Michelin Pilot Road 3,some say better than the Road 4!
Hope this helps,does rather depend what sort of riding you do, but I do allsorts so need a tyre that copes with everything I chuk at it.

BOSSMANJAY · « **Reply #3 on:** 02 May 2015, 09:18:14 am »

I run Pilot road 3 and have always had great performance from them. Good in the wet as well. Not tried the 4's yet but off to Germany in July so will trade up for that.

b1k3rdude · « **Reply #4 on:** 02 May 2015, 11:08:14 am »

+3 on the pilot road 2/3's.

But if you cant justfy the price and want similar handling at a lower perf level you might consider the Continental RA 1's as these are being phased out in favour of the RA 2's, a pair can be had for £140.

I have had RA's on every bike for the last 7 years, 4x FZS1000, 1x GSF600 7 1x GSF1200.

PieEater · « **Reply #5 on:** 02 May 2015, 12:39:48 pm »

Pilot Roads are popular but I've only ever tried Bridgestone and Avon. I much prefer the Avon Storm 3D-XM which for me give more confidence and make the bike feel more responsive through the twisties, I get about 9% more mileage from a rear Avon than a rear 023. Next time it's time for a fresh pair I might give the Pilot Roads a go to see what all the fuss is about.

NorthWestern · « **Reply #6 on:** 02 May 2015, 05:02:29 pm »

I get my pr3's from openeo for around £160 a pair. You usually get them within three days (my last order came next day)

maxzer1500 · « **Reply #7 on:** 03 May 2015, 07:58:56 am »

Anything different? Suspension settings, added luggage etc. I'm biased as have used Bridgestones almost exclusively for 25 years and favour them even though if lucky only get 2000 miles from them. Strangely i got double that when i had a Gen 2 FZ1S, i guess it's torque or lack of that makes the difference ( for me ). Not everyone can ride the same after a 6 month break or do you have a second bike, even if you do it's not the same bike. I think after 6 months i would treat the tyres almost like new and re-scrub them.

stevierst · « **Reply #8 on:** 03 May 2015, 08:51:35 am »

I agree with maxzer, you've got to get back into the swing of things again Paul, 6 months is quite a time to be away from your bike, your skills are gonna be a bit rusty!

And yep, I'd scrub the tyres in again, a good rideout should do it.

As for tyre brands, well we've all got our favourites. I always loved bt020's, their replacement bt021's were awful once 1/2 worn, and the 023 are supposed to be good, but never used them. Pr3 are supposed to be good all round, but I found them a bit mediocre when pressing on. Awesome I'm the wet though :P
Got Dunlop roadsmarts on the gen 1 at the mo, wooden when cold, pretty grippy when warm. Average in the wet.

My bro-in-law has used Angel st for ages, they really are good all rounders. The gt version lasts a bit longer apparently.

But we all know what my favourites are

:P

noggythenog · « **Reply #9 on:** 03 May 2015, 08:55:58 am »

b1k3rdude · « **Reply #10 on:** 03 May 2015, 10:06:29 am »

@Nog, I assume your referring to the maxxis diamonds? a lot of people has said maxxis tyres are not that pleasant in the wet.

noggythenog · « **Reply #11 on:** 03 May 2015, 10:25:21 am »

Quote from: b1k3rdude on 03 May 2015, 10:06:29 am

@Nog, I assume your referring to the maxxis diamonds? a lot of people has said maxxis tyres are not that pleasant in the wet.

Yeh i hear that...its a deal i got with stevie though....i had pilot 3's last time & they were good but variety is the spice of life & im hoping to not have to do any wet weather riding this year.

I ran rosso 2 on my 600 before....they were pretty scary in the wet.

All that being said i think most tyres are better than i am.

chaparral02 · « **Reply #12 on:** 03 May 2015, 10:46:43 am »

Another Vote here for Pilot road 3
Love these Michelin's

stevierst · « **Reply #13 on:** 03 May 2015, 01:11:02 pm »

Oh Noggy, if only they were worth that much.

:D

PaulSmith · « **Reply #14 on:** 05 May 2015, 10:24:13 am »

Might seem obvious, but have you checked your pressures? Were the tyres Ok before you laid the bike up? If so, they might just need a good hard ride to bring them back into condition but that said, I never saw the sense in keeping a pair of tyres you don't like. If you want a change, consider T30's. IMHO the best tyre I have ever put on a bike.

brooker81 · « **Reply #15 on:** 05 May 2015, 10:48:56 am »

Checked pressures etc all seemed ok no changes to suspension or anyhing this winter i think its just me being rusty did 50 mile or so last night and i seemed a bit happier,its prob just me being a foccing tool.

esetest · « **Reply #16 on:** 07 May 2015, 11:03:54 am »

I have just swapped my BT23's for PR3's the PR3's feel gripper in the dry , but don't seem to give as much grip in the wet IMO. , i will probably swap the worn rear BT23 for a new BT23 , and then swap wheels in the autumn and ride with the PR3's in spring/summer and the BT23's the autumn /winter .

JoeRock · « **Reply #17 on:** 07 May 2015, 12:13:47 pm »

Quote from: esetest on 07 May 2015, 11:03:54 am

I have just swapped my BT23's for PR3's the PR3's feel gripper in the dry , but don't seem to give as much grip in the wet IMO. , i will probably swap the worn rear BT23 for a new BT23 , and then swap wheels in the autumn and ride with the PR3's in spring/summer and the BT23's the autumn /winter .

Completely wrong way round to what most people say!

I've always found the Michelins very good in the wet and cold, but they do flex a bit (weird feeling!) under hard acceleration on a high opwered bike in the dry!

stevierst · « **Reply #18 on:** 07 May 2015, 12:30:04 pm »

It's certainly strange how everyone 'feels' tyres differently.

Hedgetrimmer · « **Reply #19 on:** 07 May 2015, 01:27:20 pm »

TYRES! Not tires

HTH

unfazed · « **Reply #20 on:** 07 May 2015, 02:42:45 pm »

Could be something as simple as badly adjusted suspension

Take a note of the suspension settings and return them to standard and try it.

You would be amazed how many assume tyre issues when it is wrongly adjusted suspension.

bigralphie · « **Reply #21 on:** 07 May 2015, 03:20:27 pm »

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unfazed · « **Reply #22 on:** 07 May 2015, 05:35:09 pm »

Yes but Nick was tired and tried to break it or was it Tyred and tried to Brake it

Hedgetrimmer · « **Reply #23 on:** 07 May 2015, 06:02:55 pm »

Quote from: unfazed on 07 May 2015, 05:35:09 pm

Yes but Nick was tired and tried to break it or was it Tyred and tried to Brake it

Nick is foccin confused $:\$

Slaninar · « **Reply #24 on:** 08 May 2015, 09:07:25 am »

Stupid perhaps, but I'd start with checing the pressure. Makes loads of difference, has to be right.