Having said that, a number of years ago I worked for the Parks department of a local authority that shall remain unnamed and was always shocked by the feb/march spending spree which went on to get rid of the excess money left in the pot so that the following year's budget would not be lower, the thinking being that if the department can survive on less than the year's budget, then next year it would need a smaller budget. Nowhere in this mindset was the concept of saving accounted for and so there was never any money for the really big projects and a bodge job inevitably ensued. This short term thinking infuriated me, and I suspect it pervades all levels of government.We could learn a lot from Norway!Rant over, pint resumed.
I agree and I think most would agree that its not the tax that is the issue, its how its spent
but I'd prefer if it wasn't paying some dole-scroungers Sky bill and cigarette habit
Never personally received a penny in state benefits and while in part I agree with your sentiment it is really up to the individual how they spend their payments if not specifically paid for set purpose like rent allowance etc. The annoyance comes imo when the individual spends it on sky tv, beer and fags and motorbikes then moans about getting a pittance and not enough to survive on.
I haven't used the medical services for quite some years now but I still pay in to it. IT'S NOT FAIR!!!!
Quote from: midden on 04 March 2014, 01:18:02 amI haven't used the medical services for quite some years now but I still pay in to it. IT'S NOT FAIR!!!! You miss the point.We have a staged system of vehicle taxation in this country where the most polluting or most damaging vehicles pay the most tax. All I'm asking is that that "staging" be applied to motorcycles as well, not least because they cause less congestion which is a positive benefit to road use.
We have a staged system of vehicle taxation in this country where the most polluting or most damaging vehicles pay the most tax. All I'm asking is that that "staging" be applied to motorcycles as well, not least because they cause less congestion which is a positive benefit to road use.
But if you were to stage them based on emissions like cars a Hayabusa would cost more than £200 a year. So what you're asking for is to be treated more favourably than other road users.
Quote from: Grahamm on 04 March 2014, 03:16:24 pmWe have a staged system of vehicle taxation in this country where the most polluting or most damaging vehicles pay the most tax. All I'm asking is that that "staging" be applied to motorcycles as well, not least because they cause less congestion which is a positive benefit to road use.Out of interest do you want stages set up purely for motorbikes, or for motorbikes to use the car stages?[...]Or should they use the exact same bands as cars, in which case my 1100 would just about fall into the £10/pa group. Anything below a litre would be free, in which case why bother with the stages?
Cease VED. Put it on petrol
income tax - make it a flat percentage over a certain 'living' wage
Cease child benefit.
Re-introduce married person transferable tax allowances.
Cease tax free schemes like ISAs
Flat rate VAT - remove the anomalies like a lower rate for kids clothes, safety equipment, food, on and off-premises milk!
Quote from: alan sherman on 04 March 2014, 04:48:33 pmCease VED. Put it on petrolI agree.Quoteincome tax - make it a flat percentage over a certain 'living' wageSo the less well off end up paying a bigger proportion of their disposable income whilst the wealthiest get a nice bonus?
QuoteCease child benefit.Why? Is this "If you can't afford kids, you shouldn't have them" attitude to stop the poor from breeding??
QuoteRe-introduce married person transferable tax allowances.Fine, provided same-sex couples count as "married".
QuoteCease tax free schemes like ISAsAgain, why? If you want things simplified, how are these complicated? There's no need to account for the interest on your tax return and the providers don't have to collect tax and pay it to the government.
QuoteFlat rate VAT - remove the anomalies like a lower rate for kids clothes, safety equipment, food, on and off-premises milk!So, again, the poor in society get hit disproportionately hard as their children's clothes, their food, their heating and so on take a massive hike.Voted Tory recently?
No, a system, based solely on emissions, doesn't take into account the wear and tear a vehicle causes to the road, nor the congestion that it contributes to.Any reasonable system should take both pollution and road wear into account.
Quote from: alan sherman on 04 March 2014, 04:48:33 pmCease VED. Put it on petrolI agree.QuoteNeither agree nor disagree but it would mean bikers getting severely hammered since you don't hear of many cars going for a 100 mile plus driveout on regular basisQuoteCease child benefit.Why? Is this "If you can't afford kids, you shouldn't have them" attitude to stop the poor from breeding??QuoteTend to agree with Deadeye child allowance good but after 2 may be 4 do the maths and if can't afford don't have. This obviously is subject to circumstance on basis that those who could afford at time of having could become redundant but the point is obvious.Re-introduce married person transferable tax allowances.Fine, provided same-sex couples count as "married".Quote[size=78%]About time the single person got some bonuses too[/size]QuoteFlat rate VAT - remove the anomalies like a lower rate for kids clothes, safety equipment, food, on and off-premises milk!These are seen as essentials and the benefits are spread evenly regardless of financial status so why punish the poor QuoteVoted Tory recently?
Neither agree nor disagree but it would mean bikers getting severely hammered since you don't hear of many cars going for a 100 mile plus driveout on regular basisQuoteCease child benefit.Why? Is this "If you can't afford kids, you shouldn't have them" attitude to stop the poor from breeding??QuoteTend to agree with Deadeye child allowance good but after 2 may be 4 do the maths and if can't afford don't have. This obviously is subject to circumstance on basis that those who could afford at time of having could become redundant but the point is obvious.Re-introduce married person transferable tax allowances.Fine, provided same-sex couples count as "married".Quote[size=78%]About time the single person got some bonuses too[/size]QuoteFlat rate VAT - remove the anomalies like a lower rate for kids clothes, safety equipment, food, on and off-premises milk!These are seen as essentials and the benefits are spread evenly regardless of financial status so why punish the poor QuoteVoted Tory recently?
Tend to agree with Deadeye child allowance good but after 2 may be 4 do the maths and if can't afford don't have. This obviously is subject to circumstance on basis that those who could afford at time of having could become redundant but the point is obvious.Re-introduce married person transferable tax allowances.
[size=78%]About time the single person got some bonuses too[/size]QuoteFlat rate VAT - remove the anomalies like a lower rate for kids clothes, safety equipment, food, on and off-premises milk!These are seen as essentials and the benefits are spread evenly regardless of financial status so why punish the poor QuoteVoted Tory recently?
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