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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Silicone hose kits for 97 To 03 fazers
« on: 14 February 2017, 01:28:31 pm »
Heres the latest from Samco:
As previously mentioned, it is possible for us to introduce new kits to the SamcoSport range and if you think there is a market for the Fazer hoses, then I will explain.
The factory would need to see the OEM hoses in order to be able to produce a quotation for the tooling and hose kit itself, and from their calculations, they would work out what their minimum number of kits to produce to be economically viable – This is usually around the 15-20 kit mark. Each tool to make the hoses costs between £125 and £500, so as you can see, the initial costs for the factory is quite high. It takes around 10-14 days to get a quotation from the Factory.
Once an RRP selling price for the hose set is calculated, we can then (if required) list the new kit on our website for pre-order and arrange a discount code that can be used for interested parties if the idea was to sell these to an owners club or internet forum. If your idea was more to help friends or colleagues with Fazers , then possibly you could place the order and then we can offer you a discount for re-sale?
Unfortunately it is not possible for the factory to estimate the tooling or hose cost without seeing the OEM hoses first and therefore we only recommend that people send OEM hoses into us if they believe there is good sales potential. The hose price naturally depends on the size, shape and complexity of the hoses, the more multi-branch (Y shaped) hoses, the more complicated to build and therefore the more expensive the kit will be.
If we manage to get the minimum number of pre-orders, then the tooling is made (4 weeks) and the first set of hoses is produced (4 weeks) and sent to the person that sent in the OEM hoses for trial fitting. Once the trial fit kit has been approved, then the kits can enter into full production, be added to the application list and are available for all dealers to buy thereafter.
The trial kit hose set can be made in any colour and will be supplied free of charge, including stainless steel hose clamps and delivery. This is in return for your efforts and please note that the factory needs to retain the OEM hoses as a permanent template.
Pricing is always the number one question and the most difficult to answer! Please give this some thought and thanks again for your enquiry.
Im happy to send them my oem hosses, they have only seen dry weather of 10,000 miles so they should be a good template.
Seems the best otion is for me to purchse 25 or so kits and pay for the tooling then resel with the price of the tooling split over the 25 sets.
What are your guys thoughts?
Anxious to here back from sfs, if they have the tooling then we can all save the tooling costs.
As previously mentioned, it is possible for us to introduce new kits to the SamcoSport range and if you think there is a market for the Fazer hoses, then I will explain.
The factory would need to see the OEM hoses in order to be able to produce a quotation for the tooling and hose kit itself, and from their calculations, they would work out what their minimum number of kits to produce to be economically viable – This is usually around the 15-20 kit mark. Each tool to make the hoses costs between £125 and £500, so as you can see, the initial costs for the factory is quite high. It takes around 10-14 days to get a quotation from the Factory.
Once an RRP selling price for the hose set is calculated, we can then (if required) list the new kit on our website for pre-order and arrange a discount code that can be used for interested parties if the idea was to sell these to an owners club or internet forum. If your idea was more to help friends or colleagues with Fazers , then possibly you could place the order and then we can offer you a discount for re-sale?
Unfortunately it is not possible for the factory to estimate the tooling or hose cost without seeing the OEM hoses first and therefore we only recommend that people send OEM hoses into us if they believe there is good sales potential. The hose price naturally depends on the size, shape and complexity of the hoses, the more multi-branch (Y shaped) hoses, the more complicated to build and therefore the more expensive the kit will be.
If we manage to get the minimum number of pre-orders, then the tooling is made (4 weeks) and the first set of hoses is produced (4 weeks) and sent to the person that sent in the OEM hoses for trial fitting. Once the trial fit kit has been approved, then the kits can enter into full production, be added to the application list and are available for all dealers to buy thereafter.
The trial kit hose set can be made in any colour and will be supplied free of charge, including stainless steel hose clamps and delivery. This is in return for your efforts and please note that the factory needs to retain the OEM hoses as a permanent template.
Pricing is always the number one question and the most difficult to answer! Please give this some thought and thanks again for your enquiry.
Im happy to send them my oem hosses, they have only seen dry weather of 10,000 miles so they should be a good template.
Seems the best otion is for me to purchse 25 or so kits and pay for the tooling then resel with the price of the tooling split over the 25 sets.
What are your guys thoughts?
Anxious to here back from sfs, if they have the tooling then we can all save the tooling costs.