I used Hagon progressive with their recommended air gap and standard fork oil.What is the rider sag with the Hagon setup??
Adjusted the sag to 23mm and all is fine.
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[/color][/size](http://www.moto-racing.co.uk/Graphics/Straight%20Rate%20Spring.jpg) [/size]Linear Rate -[/b] also known as straight rate or constant rate springs, are were the entire spring is wound at the same pitch, therefore every kg of force has the same effect on the spring throughout its length. For example, if it takes 25kg of force to compress the spring one inch it will take another 25kg (50kg in total) to compress it the second inch and so on until the end of the travel. Progressive Rate -[/b] are wound progressively from a finer pitch at one end to a coarser pitch at the other, therefore having a rising rate resistance to compression. For example, a 15kg to 25kg progressive spring rate will take 15kg of force to compress the spring one inch, then an additional 17kg of force the next inch and so on until the end of the travel, the last inch takes an additional 25kg to compress it .[/font][/size][/size](http://www.moto-racing.co.uk/Graphics/Progressive%20Rate%20Spring.jpg) | ||
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[/color][/size]The Evidence -[/color][/size]The pro progressive spring people will advocate that you are getting the best of both worlds, you'll be getting a spring that can be soft enough at the start of travel to absorb small road bumps and provide a more 'comfortable' ride, yet still offering the firmness at the end of the travel to handle the big bumps and potholes, major loading under braking and preventing bottoming out. Progressive fork springs are very popular with cruisers and sportstourers.[/color][/size]So why then do the pro linear rate people always say that straight rate springs are better? What's the problem with progressive rate springs? [/color][/size]The first problem is that sportsbikes and racing bikes simply do not have enough suspension travel to take advantage of the progressive rates. The initial softer part of the spring just gets used up straight away leaving a limited amount of travel for the stiffer portion to deal with, resulting in less compliance and less traction. The second problem is that damping rates need to be matched to the spring rates, in particular rebound damping, with progressive rate springs this is impossible. Damping is always a bit of a compromise and adding progressive springs to the mix just makes the job so much more difficult.[/color][/size]The Conclusion -[/color][/size]For sportsbikes and racing bikes virtually all suspension tuners will recommend linear springs, but if you have cruiser or tourer then progressive springs may be the perfect option.[/color][/size]So which are actually best was the original question. You really need to make your own judgement based on your type of bike and what you want from the suspension. This article is only a guide to help you make an informed decision, there is no definitive answer!![/color][/size] [/color][/size]Er, confused.com :'( [/color] |
My rear brake pads came today so as was able to go for a ride to try out my forks...
I bought wilbers springs from Revs after reading a previous post on here.
The thing is, when i rang revs and talked to john, i just said i needed something doing with the front end and he recomended Wilbers springs... He asked my weight and what type of riding i do..
Because he had asked about my weight i thought he must be matching me up with linears..
When i opened the box i found out i had been giving progressive, then after looking at the Wilbers website found they only do progressive for the fzs 600..
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The progresive part of the spring is very small, about 50mm where as the standard yam one is more than double that..
I went ahead and fitted them anyway and i am pleased i did, there f***ing great.
The feedback through the bars is very good. You can really feel the front end pushing down searching for grip, it feels much more agile when you flick it over and the front end dive when has completely gone.
These springs really suit my riding style,i didnt need linears after all!
Perfect for a road going bike imo :)
Here you go. https://www.wilbers-shop.de/en/Motorcycle/Yamaha/FZS-600-Fazer-RJ02-wilbers-4/Wilbers-Fork-Spring-Zero-friction-progressive.html?cur=1?manufacturer=90v40bd08f64cf352173769a2f312731&year=2003&catname=4bd1558943f8720eb7a51f3debac61ec (https://www.wilbers-shop.de/en/Motorcycle/Yamaha/FZS-600-Fazer-RJ02-wilbers-4/Wilbers-Fork-Spring-Zero-friction-progressive.html?cur=1?manufacturer=90v40bd08f64cf352173769a2f312731&year=2003&catname=4bd1558943f8720eb7a51f3debac61ec)
Why do the 2 Springs look quite different (pictured above)? - Their closely coiled sections are far from 'even', with the Springs side by side - is there good reason for this?