I had them in about 2010(?) for a 3000 mile UK tour. I don't know if they've been upgraded since then, but even then they weren't a bad tyre for touring and everyday use. Not exactly sport levels of grip though, I felt. Wet weather grip was ok, but not on a par with PR2s, and I'm constantly reading that PR3s and 4s are even better in the wet. I used the Contis as a cheap option at the time though, but now PR2s are cheap, no reason to go back to the Contis.