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Re: GSXR750...
« Reply #100 on: 18 June 2016, 06:42:43 pm »
anyone got any ideas on this shock i linked to above, speaking to Sinto, we are wondering if its a spacer of some sort that is been used, you can see the pre-load collars that usually go up and down the threaded area appear to be doing nothing....


sounding like this may be a pain to sort i.e. need removing and then re-setting up...



mystery sloved, the external attachment mounted to the exhaust hanger, that controls a piston that controls pre-load etc, so its all done with that....so as i thought, me not understanding my shock!!!



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Re: GSXR750...
« Reply #101 on: 18 June 2016, 06:52:27 pm »
Could it be that all the pre load has been wound off, get a c spanner and try winding on more, the gold collar thingimijig, if somehow connected to the spring seat should move down as you wind the pre load on. As for pre load, that wont effect the spring rate so your shock will still be firm. I'd be having a butchers on GSXR forums and see what other owners are fitting to improve the ride
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« Reply #102 on: 18 June 2016, 07:24:21 pm »
So, been playing with it, as you turn the remote adjust you can see the gold collar move up and down, it has 8MM of travel i think up and down, so it does limit the preload adjustment...


I will mess around with it and also the damping settings for compression and rebound, if i cannot get it where i need to be it may need a re-spring....but we shall see


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Re: GSXR750...
« Reply #103 on: 18 June 2016, 11:11:59 pm »
from my experience, and having ridden both on roads i know like the back of my hand, the GSXR would be quicker without a doubt no matter how hard i rode it, the FZS600 would not be able to get out of the corners as quick or hold the line at speed in some of them, not to mention not accelerate as fast etc.

Never had a GSXR750 pass me on on the road on my Fzs600 yet.  :eek
Even on a track day the only place one past me was on the main straight, but 3 corners before the main straight I would be ahead again.  :lol :lol

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« Reply #104 on: 19 June 2016, 10:41:32 am »
ok...but in the scenario where you were given the chance to ride each bike on the same track, which one do you think you would be faster on?

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Re: GSXR750...
« Reply #105 on: 19 June 2016, 03:13:47 pm »
Its not the the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog.  :lol

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« Reply #106 on: 19 June 2016, 04:05:33 pm »
but if its the same dog on different bikes?


lol...


i think this is going to be a stale mate, some think the GSXR is going to be faster, others the FZS600 will level peg it, from my side, riding both, i know which one i can push the hardest and fastest, but i am still very much a novice so happy that i may have little idea what i am rattling on about....


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« Reply #107 on: 19 June 2016, 05:08:52 pm »
They are such different riding styles, you would want to be used to riding both to really make a comparison and have the sports bike set up for roads, not tracks (which most are set up for).
Any sportsbike over 750cc properly set up should beat the fazer on normal roads, but most I have embarrassed were not, they thought they were, but they were not.
I once swapped my 600 with a friend who had a gixxer 750 K5, after 20 miles I stopped and asked him why he had it set so hard, he thought it was fine. After 20 minutes adjusting everything back to the soft side of standard, it was a totally different machine and handled on the roads, then we had fun, still beat him though with the 600 :D and again when we swapped bikes :D

I had a fellow on a S1000RR (not Downey) follow me a few years ago around the West Cork Coast roads and when I stopped at a junction he says to me "I never thought those Fazer 1000s were that good". His face dropped to his boots when I told him it was the 600. Then his 2 friends arrived on a R1 and Gixxer 1000. He says to them "It's a foccing 600, we have been trying to stay with a foccing 600". :lol We pulled over at the petrol station and started chatting about handling and things. They had the bikes set up for track days (which they did a lot of). To hard for normal west Cork roads and they could not hold tight lines without dropping off the power. I suggested they take a not of their track day settings and take the setting back to standard and have 20 to 30mm sag at the front and 10 to 20 mm sag at the rear for road use. Unfortunately I never met them since to see how the got on.

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« Reply #108 on: 23 June 2016, 07:29:22 pm »
so a few more days passes, and i break something else, was trying to stop my rear headlight cluster rattling and ended up with both plastic lugs that attach it to the cowling breaking.....


So, after trying all sorts, and some different adhesives, i used a soldering iron to melt the bits back together - result, good as new and all sorted!









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« Reply #109 on: 23 June 2016, 08:22:43 pm »
Another job sorted, well done mate :)

Could maybe show this guy how to use plastic welding as he may well need it!
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Re: GSXR750...
« Reply #110 on: 23 June 2016, 08:33:20 pm »
but if its the same dog on different bikes?


lol...


i think this is going to be a stale mate, some think the GSXR is going to be faster, others the FZS600 will level peg it, from my side, riding both, i know which one i can push the hardest and fastest, but i am still very much a novice so happy that i may have little idea what i am rattling on about....


 :)


at donington i am 3s a lap quicker on my gixxer6 than on my fazer 1000, and the fazer was kicking s1000rr's. on track it's all about corner speed and angle of dangle, and that is what a gsxr is designed for!


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« Reply #111 on: 23 June 2016, 08:47:52 pm »
no arguments on that one, i would expect my GSX750 to be faster on the track any day than my 600, and on the road...


also, as we can see from your pic, blue bikes are fast  :lol


need to get me some leathers and get on a track....think thats next years thing

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Re: GSXR750...
« Reply #112 on: 23 June 2016, 10:24:05 pm »
Better ground clearance :thumbup