04-03-2019 MAG recommends ULEZ ‘breathing space’ for motorcyclesMAG has asked London authorities to allow time with bikers to prevent an angry, administratively nightmarish chaos over ULEZ charges for motorcycles. MAG met with former Chair of the Transport Committee on the Greater London Authority, Keith Prince AM, at London’s City Hall to seek a postponement for motorcycles from the ULEZ pollution charges for older motorbikes. This was supplemented by a formal letter (link HERE) to the Mayor, Sadiq Khan, requesting the postponement. Reasons identified for the postponement of the charges include:The Mayor and TfL haven’t yet grasped issues relating to the introduction of the ULEZ charge for older bikes. This means eleventh-hour panic could lead to ill-considered, knee jerk decisions from bikers and also from policy makers.Postponing ULEZ on motorcycles has a tiny impact on emissions. By TfL’s own figures fewer than 4,000 bikes will be non-compliant with Euro 3 – a figure itself already declining through entirely legitimate individual exemptions.ULEZ as it stands means the certainty of injustice, as one biker can be charged whilst riding next to a biker with an identical bike that’s exempt.Postponement can still lead to charging in 2021 if evidence proves the case for it. Currently TfL has no meaningful evidence on motorcycle emissions, nor effective modelling techniques to know the positive effect of modal shift to powered two wheelers. A delay provides time to measure real world emissions and journey time-savings – which will also reduce congestion and thus secondary emissions.The social impact on the poorest road users, who can often only afford older motorcycles and scooters for their commuting needs, has been totally ignored and turns the ULEZ charges into a regressive tax against the least wealthy.TfL has yet to justify the disproportionate effect of charging motorcycles, which would have to pay the same as older cars, while newer cars get in for free.MAG’s Director of Communications & Public Affairs, Lembit Öpik, warns: ‘there’s a pressing need to take all of this into account to avoid administrative nightmares and injustices. Many motorcycles facing the charge are operating at emissions levels below the ULEZ emissions thresholds. TfL would be obliged to refund any payments made by those riders. So let’s be sensible and postpone this charge, before the whole thing descends into chaos.’
FZS600 is a no no.... (see below from Yamaha) might be worth someone asking about the FZ6Good Afternoon,Thank you for your enquiry.We do however regret to advise that only models constructed to comply with European Whole Vehicle Type Approval, regulations that were not fully introduced until 2003, will qualify for a CoC.Due to the age of your machine it was not subject to European Whole Type Approval testing, in this instance we can only advise the NOx output for the Model code, therefore a machine of that model of a similar age, which was 0.185 (g/km).We apologise we are not able to be of assistance.Kind RegardsCustomer Service
So far only one dealer has applied to do this, but they have asked for others to apply. The CoC is the result of the test carried out by the manufacturer. A trustworthy source.
Dear Mr xxxxxxTfL Ref: FOI-0565-1920 Thank you for your request received by Transport for London (TfL) on 24th May 2019 asking for information about the equipment used to test motorcycles for ULEZ exemption. Your request will be processed in accordance with the requirements of the Freedom of Information Act and our information access policy. A response will be sent to you by 24th June 2019. We publish a substantial range of information on our website on subjects including operational performance, contracts, expenditure, journey data, governance and our financial performance. This includes data which is frequently asked for in FOI requests or other public queries. Please check http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/transparency/ to see if this helps you. We will publish anonymised versions of requests and responses on the www.tfl.gov.uk website. We will not publish your name and we will send a copy of the response to you before it is published on our website. In the meantime, if you would like to discuss this matter further, please do not hesitate to contact me.Yours sincerely,xxxxFOI Case OfficerFOI Case Management TeamGeneral CounselTransport for London------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ FOI-0565-1920 Mr xxxx Received 24/05/2019: Please confirm the make and model of equipment required to test motorcycles for ULEZ exemption, specifically testing NOx output to produce a Certificate of Conformity
Cost an arm an a leg
It failed first time, but was so close they were able to tweak it and it passed! Cost an arm an a leg, but will pay for itself after about a month. I now have a CoC from TFL.
That exactly why I have made an Foi request, why has only one dealer in all of London done this.
You asked: “Please confirm the make and model of equipment required to test motorcycles for ULEZ exemption, specifically testing NOx output to produce a Certificate of Conformity.” The testing that would be required for motorcycles is the type-approval ‘type 1’ emissions test. This test must be performed on a dynamometer capable of being adjusted for appropriate road-load coefficients and with a driver aid capable of displaying the appropriate velocity/time co-ordinates for the legislative drive cycle for each class of motorcycle. Emissions analysis must be by a minimum of a 5 gas analyser specified to measure NOx over the required drive cycle, whilst taking account of total gas volume over the same cycle, and producing a single value in grammes/km. Emissions testing is to be carried out in accordance with the regulation ECE/TRANS/180/Add2 Please see the attached information sheet for details of your right to appeal as well as information on copyright and what to do if you would like to re-use any of the information we have disclosed.
The link says that the two stroke bikes passed the NOx test, but it doesn't mention anything about the CO2 levels. Did they pass those?.
Apparently they only test for NOx, so surely anything can pass if those bikes did?
Dear Sir/MadamThank you for your email enquiry dated 18 August 2019, concerning the above.The Certificate of Conformity comes from the manufacturer.Although DVSA carry out the MSVA testing (as we have the facilities to do so) we cannot make a decision on which vehicles require the testing prior to registration. The DVLA are the authority who will register the bike so it is their decision what paperwork (if any) will need to be submitted to them to allow registration to occur as multiple methods can be used (be it MSVA certificate, Certificate of Conformity etc).The DVLA email service can be found here - - 0300 790 6801 for drivers queries.- 0300 790 6802 for vehicle queries.To be able to permanently register a motorcycle, quad or trike, that is less than 10 years old in the UK with the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) , you must either provide proof of European Community Whole Vehicle Type Approval (ECWVTA) obtained from the manufacturer, or put the vehicle through a Motorcycle Single Vehicle Approval (MSVA) test. You can find the MSVA application form here and you can view the fees for the MSVA test here.Kind regards,Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency | The Ellipse, Padley Road, Swansea, SA1 8AN------------------------------------------------------From: bikerdudeSent: 18 August 2019 12:39To: enquiries@vca.gov.ukCc: Enquiries <Enquiries@dvsa.gov.uk>Subject: ECWVTA and COC - how to obtain for MotorcycleTo the VCA & VLSA,I own a 2005 Yamaha FZS 1000 motorcycle that I learned a few years after purchasing it, that it was originally a US model imported into the UK. How do I go about getting CoC certificate from yourselves for my motorcycle as stated near the top of the page on the following government website – - https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-approval/motorcycle-single-vehicle-approvalI am having to email my inquiry as the above page doesn’t state or link to anywhere where or how to get the CoC for an imported vehicle.Kind regards
If you read the thread in the FZS1000 forum, you'll see Yamaha will let you have a CoC (for £60)