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Title: Off to Euroland again
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 04 July 2017, 12:54:24 am
Heading off on Friday. Trip to include the B500 through the Black Forest and a few days in Switzerland. All booked to that point, will see what comes next. Maybe Italy, but depends on the weather. Too hot could be as off-putting as too wet!
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: robbo on 04 July 2017, 10:21:01 am
Going to the Bol d'Or in September and planning to have a day playing on the B500 on the way home. Enjoy and have a safe trip.
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: 5LV on 04 July 2017, 11:03:29 am
If you're doing the b500, take the schwartzstrasse down to Oppenau. Well worth it. Watch out for the law at the weekends tho
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: Bretty on 04 July 2017, 11:05:16 am
Personally I would say, only do the B500 if it is along the way, but don't go out of your way for it, if it means you can spend more time in Switzerland or Italy.

I did the B500 on my way home last year and found it a bit of an anti-climax. I also saw 3 police cars (2 hiding) and although the roads are smooth and sweeping, they are nothing compared to playing in the Alps (Stelvio, Furka, Susten, Gotthard, Grimsel passes) or just generally playing around the Italian or German lakes.

I just did the dambusters tour and was pleasantly surprised how amazing the scenery and roads were, just normal German back roads. :-)
Lake Como is also breathtaking.

I still struggle to see the fascination with the B500, other than it's on the way to Switzerland and slightly less boring then cruising and paying tolls on the French motorways. But I guess I'm in the minority. Switzerland by comparison was beautiful. 40% Mountains, 30% trees, 30% flowery meadows, 0% straight roads. You'll love Switzerland!

I didn't take any photo's on the B500, but here is Switzerland...



Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: Bretty on 04 July 2017, 11:08:41 am
Switzerland again... :rolleyes


Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 04 July 2017, 11:16:06 am
here is Switzerland...


It's smaller than I thought... :lol


I had heard about them stepping up the policing on the B500, so I'll be taking it 'carefully'. It seems to be a fairly logical route if you're heading for Switzerland and don't want to do motorways all the way, fairly direct. I've seen photos people have taken along it, and they don't look particularly stunning; they all say it's about just riding it. Oh well, it's on the tick list, so I'll get it done. I've got overnight stops booked on the way; one near Esch-sur-Sure, and one at Baden-Baden.


I'll have time for the Susten/Furka/Grimsel loop (also at the top of the tick list), also perhaps the Neufenen, which seems to be highly recommended, and one or two other places. 4 nights/3 days in Switzerland - might be too expensive for longer.


I spent 3 years in Germany with the RAF, and a mate and me used to ride down to the Moehnesee on Sundays quite often - it was a popular bike meeting spot right at the end of the dam there. I'd like to do more of Germany, as I mostly saw it through an alcoholic haze  :lol
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 04 July 2017, 11:18:22 am
Going to the Bol d'Or in September and planning to have a day playing on the B500 on the way home. Enjoy and have a safe trip.


I had everything ready to go to the Bol on my FZR1000 back in 1991, then just before it, smashed myself up on the bike and never got around to it since  :\  I'd like to get down for the classic version some time, don't know if I ever will.
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: locksmith on 04 July 2017, 12:04:56 pm
Did a bit of of it in the pissing down rain. I had the wet ride of my life, it was superb, but after a coffee and strudel stop everyone else wanted to turn back :(
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: robbo on 04 July 2017, 02:05:38 pm
If the format is the same as two years ago they run a classic race on the Friday night. At the moment planning on 3 nights camping after the race weekend at Digne les bains doing the D900/N85 including Col du Bonnet, then a dash up to Baden Baden on the Thursday, a day to play in the area and home Saturday.
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 04 July 2017, 02:45:25 pm
Col de la Bonette was good (assuming that's the one you mean?). The very top of the mountain road was closed when I went last month, but should be clear by now, as it didn't look like they had much more work to do:


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I reckon they'd deliberately blocked it at this point, probably while they finished work at the top:


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Didn't miss out on much height though:


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So the Classic Bol d'Or is just incorporated into the same weekend? I had thought it was a separate event entirely.


If I was headed for one col in the French Alps, I'd go to the Col du Galibier, further north. Not quite as high as Bonette, but the views are even more spectacular:


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Fair bit of zoom used in this shot:


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Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: Red Ceri on 04 July 2017, 03:17:35 pm
Did the Bol last year and the Classic was a 4 hour race with 2 hours Friday night and 2 hours on the Saturday before the actual 24 hour race.


Did the B500 on the not so direct way back, after we did the Route Napoleon, much better and longer


Did Italy (top to bottom) in late July 2014, it was a little warm (mid-30s +) and felt a little strange being the only person in leathers and textile (black to boot) when all the Italians were in shorts and t-shirts. Had to retire my leather jeans after that trip.
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 04 July 2017, 03:59:38 pm
Ceri, did you write up any kind of trip report for your Italian jaunt? Italy is the one I really want to do - it is the country that has left the fondest impression on me from last year - but just a bit put off by distances and the heat. Heat was what defeated me last month, but tbh, it was having days booked at a hotel with no air con that tipped the balance. I coped ok with the heat whilst on the move (I resorted to t-shirt and jeans on a couple of days), and in hotels with air con or a fan even, I was ok. I know better now to specify that when booking.


I seriously want to do Rome and the Amalfi coast. Would two days (from Switzerland) to get down that far be overly ambitious? Not bothered too much about missing out on the in-between, as I'll already have done some exploring in the Alps beforehand.
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: Bretty on 04 July 2017, 04:58:52 pm
I can't answer your question directly, but can confirm the E35 motorway is the boringest road in all of Europe.

I think it had something to do with the romans, miles and miles of straight motorway, boring as hell.

I did the South coast of France, into Italy and round to Pisa, Lucca, Siena, Florence then up to Bologna, Then Milan to Komo. I thought Florence was beautiful (almost as good as Rome).

I did Nice to Florence in a day and Florence to Komo in a day, Comfortably is the wrong word, but that is a 'do-able' distance, if that helps you.

Brett
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: robbo on 04 July 2017, 05:03:55 pm
Why I chose Col de la Bonette is that from where I'm camping I can include it in a day out loop as it's sort of on the doorstep.
I get the feeling that the B500 isn't worth putting myself out for, as once north of Gap it would be all motorway in order to get there in a day.
Ceri, if you still have a record of the route you took, could you maybe pm me when you have a moment please.
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 04 July 2017, 05:28:05 pm
I can't answer your question directly, but can confirm the E35 motorway is the boringest road in all of Europe.

I think it had something to do with the romans, miles and miles of straight motorway, boring as hell.

I did the South coast of France, into Italy and round to Pisa, Lucca, Siena, Florence then up to Bologna, Then Milan to Komo. I thought Florence was beautiful (almost as good as Rome).

I did Nice to Florence in a day and Florence to Komo in a day, Comfortably is the wrong word, but that is a 'do-able' distance, if that helps you.

Brett


Sounds similar to the trip we did last year. We also did from just west of Nice to Florence in one day, including a (late) lunch break at Pisa. We did Florence to just beyond Riva del Garda in two days, Riva to Ramsau am Dachstein in Austria in one day, and I don't remember any of those being particularly short days, though we did avoid motorways and tolls (er, mostly  :lol )

From the Italian lakes, let's say, to Rome, I'm willing to hack boring roads, as long as it doesn't take too long, as it's the destinations that I'm keen on.


I loved Florence. I loved Italy tbh. Great scenery, friendly people, good roads (where we went, anyway), good food, fascinating and beautiful architecture, good weather (on the whole) - what more could you ask of a country?  8)

Why I chose Col de la Bonette is that from where I'm camping I can include it in a day out loop as it's sort of on the doorstep.
I get the feeling that the B500 isn't worth putting myself out for, as once north of Gap it would be all motorway in order to get there in a day.
Ceri, if you still have a record of the route you took, could you maybe pm me when you have a moment please.


Fair enough robbo. I've really only chosen the B500 as it makes a reasonable route to Switzerland, which is my main destination, and I don't really want to hang about too much getting there. Bonette is worth the detour, I'd say.


Ceri, likewise  :lol  (for the Italy bit).
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 04 July 2017, 06:13:46 pm
If you're doing the b500, take the schwartzstrasse down to Oppenau. Well worth it. Watch out for the law at the weekends tho


I can see the Lierbachstrasse (K5370), but can't see Schwartzstrasse (on Google maps)?
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: slimwilly on 05 July 2017, 07:55:10 am
Google Joe Pirelli  for b and b in switzerland
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: Red Ceri on 05 July 2017, 12:03:42 pm
Robbo, my sat-nav has overwritten the trip log of routes i did, plus I had to delete the daily routes to make space for my trip to the Bol last year, I'll try and re-create the routes as best as I can as I did a daily log of miles and start and end points. This may take sometime as I've just bought a new bike specific sat-nav so may spend some time playing with this first :lol


I did do quite high daily mileages and long days but did a mixture of twisties for Fun and A-roads for mileage, although some of the major roads were quite interesting. Plus I was on my own so not adverse to clocking up the hours on the bike.


I'm not  a great taker of photos, unlike Nick, so there aren't may photos available I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 05 July 2017, 02:07:00 pm
If you're doing the b500, take the schwartzstrasse down to Oppenau. Well worth it. Watch out for the law at the weekends tho


I can see the Lierbachstrasse (K5370), but can't see Schwartzstrasse (on Google maps)?


I've chosen two stretches off of the B500 through the Black Forest, just to be different from everyone else  :D   They look to be very twisty  :)  All programmed into the sat nav now.

Bill, I Googled your suggestion, didn't see anything relevant :\  All booked for Switzerland now anyway - hotel at Meiringen, right on the corner of the Grimsel/Susten/Furka loop  :D
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: dickturpin on 06 July 2017, 11:32:49 am
Seems ironic that you're doing all these euro trips now you're living up north!..(assuming you ride down to the south coast and back?)
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 06 July 2017, 01:10:35 pm
I guess it does a bit! It's only now that I find myself in the financial position at the same time as having some time on my hands that I'm doing it now though, just grabbing the opportunity while it's there, although this will definitely be the last one for a while. It is a bit of a chore now to have to ride all the way down south first, but I don't really like long boat trips, and prefer to ride the distance.
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: Bretty on 06 July 2017, 02:48:08 pm
Is it worth considering the ferry from Hull to Holland to save you the long drive down the UK?
You say you don't like ferrys, but if you get an overnight crossing you sleep most of the way and wake up in Europe. :-)

Have a look on aferry.co.uk. It can seem expensive but when you offset it against the price of a hotel, fuel, the time it saves you (traveling while sleeping) and the boring long motorway drive. It might be worth thinking about.
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 06 July 2017, 05:27:28 pm
I did briefly consider using that ferry. But I found it so boring being cooped up for just 24 hours on the Portsmouth-Santander ferry, despite getting the beers down me. Christ knows what people see in cruise holidays. No, I'm happier to just thrash it out for a day on the motorway. I always allow plenty of time, and have frequent coffee/food stops, and it's soon done.
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: robbo on 06 July 2017, 05:33:48 pm

Ceri, there's a pm for you.


Nick, enjoy and ride safe. :thumbup
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 08 July 2017, 09:46:40 pm
B&B at Folkestone last night, did a quick ride out in the evening. Dover castle:


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Deal castle:


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A short walk along the cliff top:


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Chunnel train this morning, and down to my hotel near Esch-sur-Sure. Bastogne again:


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Some sort of classic car event on there:


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Went out for a spin on arrival here this evening. Went through Ettelbruck, Diekirch, Echternach and Larochette. Schloss at Larochette:


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Memorial to General Patton at Ettelbruck, who's 3rd Army liberated the town in 1944:


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Black Forest at Baden-Baden tomorrow.
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 09 July 2017, 09:14:48 pm
Was it someone on here that said there are better roads in the Black Forest than the B500? Did a bit of the infamous, and many other roads today, and all I will say is it's not the only cracking hooning route around here!  :evil


After a dull.mostly motorway ride to get down here from Luxembourg, I had my kit offloaded into the hotel room in this little town near Baden-Baden by 1pm, so went out to explore. Chose some twisty looking routes from the Michelin map, plugged em into the twat nav, and had about 5 hours of solid zoooooommmmm! :b  Not many photos, as only stopped for coffees and a late lunch (schnitzel, but can't find anywhere that does Jaeger Schnitzel  :( ). Bikes everywhere today, a very popular area for us two-wheeled folk unsurprisingly. Saw quite a few Fazers around too, wondered if anyone else off here is out here at the moment.


Loffenau:


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Thought I was back in Wales for a minute:


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B500 proper tomorrow, and Meiringen, Switzerland.
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 10 July 2017, 09:55:08 pm
So, today was the B500, with a couple of detours here and there.


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Beautiful grippy tarmac - this on a smaller road to Oppenau, which I actually rate higher than the B500 for riding fun:


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Not much in the way of views as the cloud was low, and had a fair bit of rain, although short-lived heavy showers for the most part. Roads were still fun to ride though.


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Wolfach, not quite on the B500:


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Could that be red98?  :lol  :


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Only one shot in Switzerland today, taken somewhere en route to my hotel:


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I was just following the twat nav's instructions, so couldn't really tell you where this was. The hotel is actually on Grimselstrasse, so well placed for some fun from tomorrow, assuming the weather is better.
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: robbo on 10 July 2017, 10:32:05 pm
The pic of your bike in Wolfach next to a green parasol, is taken in front of a hotel I stayed at in 2005. Small world and all that. Glad you're enjoying your trip.
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: red98 on 11 July 2017, 06:38:31 am
LOL........late for the party as usual    :lol       a kawasaki z400, 500 , 550 or maybe looking at the logo on the engine cover a GPZ550..82 / 83  vintage.......i need to get out more   :rolleyes


great pictures as usual nick , look forward to the next instalment ,have a good trip    :thumbup
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 11 July 2017, 09:43:47 pm
Thanks Paul, I do my best! Today I did do the Susten/Furka/Grimsel passes loop, then a blat down to Grindelwald and Lauterbrunnen:


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0060_zpspy72hj1h.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0060_zpspy72hj1h.jpg.html)


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(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0076_zpsytngw0nk.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0076_zpsytngw0nk.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0084_zpssf8gbqsq.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0084_zpssf8gbqsq.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0088_zpsifmmvifl.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0088_zpsifmmvifl.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0090_zpsb2mej1st.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0090_zpsb2mej1st.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0092_zpsfcrdmnps.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0092_zpsfcrdmnps.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0097_zpsefpan7jd.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0097_zpsefpan7jd.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0107_zpsqoivqopd.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0107_zpsqoivqopd.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0109_zpszrrd8p7c.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0109_zpszrrd8p7c.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0114_zpsykb14a7n.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0114_zpsykb14a7n.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0130_zpsygxmuvxu.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0130_zpsygxmuvxu.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0137_zpsfftrkkbw.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0137_zpsfftrkkbw.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0145_zpscp7nrp5u.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0145_zpscp7nrp5u.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0151_zpsh996gmwv.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0151_zpsh996gmwv.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0152_zpskhnzb6vb.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0152_zpskhnzb6vb.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0154_zpsnrl4tlrb.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0154_zpsnrl4tlrb.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0173_zpss2olooyw.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0173_zpss2olooyw.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0179_zpsj1hwje1v.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0179_zpsj1hwje1v.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0182_zpsug9djlqt.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0182_zpsug9djlqt.jpg.html)


Tomorrow, I'm thinking of a repeat of the Grimsel and Furka but in the other direction, and down over the Nufenen pass. Will depend on the weather. The forecast thunderstorms didn't materialise today thankfully, but they're talking of the same tomorrow. Better on Thursday,  but haven't thought where to go then yet. Any suggestions (in this local-ish area) would be welcome if you know this place.
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: Tmation on 12 July 2017, 03:21:35 pm
I am so jealous of the photo taking, I am normally enjoying the ride so much that that I forget to stop, either that or too lazy  :'(


Photos of rural petrol stations or village cafe don't impress anyone.


Enjoy the ride  :) , I am off to Vienna end of Aug via the Black Forest and the Alps.
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: HarryHornby on 12 July 2017, 07:09:31 pm
OH WOW Nick, what stunning photos.  One thing that keeps going through my mind seeing those houses surrounded by mountains is "How fantastic it must be to live with a view like that every day!".


Love the paraglider in one of the pics.


Roads look amazing!


Ride safe and enjoy!
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 12 July 2017, 08:17:32 pm
The photo-taking is actually a big part of touring for me, one of my main motivations for going to these places in the first place. I do actually get to enjoy plenty of good riding in between, believe it or not! Today, I started with the Grimsel and Furka passes again, and only stopped once for coffee - just caned it along those spectacular mountain roads instead  :evil


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0186_zpszi7wtipl.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0186_zpszi7wtipl.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0191_zpsjj93noqr.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0191_zpsjj93noqr.jpg.html)


Then did the St. Gotthard Pass (nothing spectacular), and then another brilliant one; the Nufenen Pass. Hacked it all the way to the top before stopping; great fun!  :evil :evil :evil
At the top:


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0198_zpsfawoyogf.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0198_zpsfawoyogf.jpg.html)


It was a brilliant day for mountain photography today, with the changeable light. I took dozens here, as you wait a moment and it all looks different again. Just a couple:


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0203_zpskcbug3yx.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0203_zpskcbug3yx.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0204_zps6fbab4bm.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0204_zps6fbab4bm.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0213_zpsoinksuz3.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0213_zpsoinksuz3.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0219_zpsr48tusqz.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0219_zpsr48tusqz.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0220_zpsk1bp2ecb.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0220_zpsk1bp2ecb.jpg.html)


Bottom of the other side, saw this:


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0227_zpsqjxxzrl8.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0227_zpsqjxxzrl8.jpg.html)


Biker Point appeared to be just a fairly nondescript hotel though.


Then headed towards Zermatt - mistake  :rolleyes
You can't get all the way there by bike, but have to take the mountain railway, which I couldn't be bothered with, and it was a long, slow, hot ride (29deg) to get there and back, with only a couple of mediocre shots as the reward:


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0230_zps2anvgfmb.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0230_zps2anvgfmb.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0239_zps6bsh6fde.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0239_zps6bsh6fde.jpg.html)


Nice roundabout though:


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0237_zpsdl17o7bb.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0237_zpsdl17o7bb.jpg.html)


 :b


Did find a bike dealer to get a new headlamp bulb though, as I noticed one of mine was gone yesterday. Might even get around to fitting it  :lol
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: red98 on 12 July 2017, 09:28:29 pm
Stunning pictures nick  :thumbup ........going to get some stick here but got to say it , cant help thinking that your 3rd picture down would be better without your fazer.................
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 12 July 2017, 10:03:22 pm
Stunning pictures nick  :thumbup ........going to get some stick here but got to say it , cant help thinking that your 3rd picture down would be better without your fazer.................



You mean like this? :


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0201_zps0ppsujnf.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0201_zps0ppsujnf.jpg.html)


I got it covered Paul :D   :lol


Saw loads of Fazers today. 3 gen 1 thous within a couple of miles of setting out for the day, every kind throughout the day. A gen 1 thou same colour as mine but with silver frame and engine at the dealer where I got the bulb too.
While there, a mechanic came out of the shop, patted my bike on the tail, and said "top bike"  :D
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: red98 on 13 July 2017, 06:51:10 am
 :lol Thats better nick  :lol


i did the same on last years scotland trip , one piccie with my phone for the forum and another without the fazer with my camera for the album   :lol


what sort of daily milage you doing ?
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 13 July 2017, 08:35:49 am
:lol Thats better nick  :lol


i did the same on last years scotland trip , one piccie with my phone for the forum and another without the fazer with my camera for the album   :lol


what sort of daily milage you doing ?


Most of my shots are without the bike. I only really take ones with the bike in, as you say, for the forums, to keep it at least slightly relevant - I get to see my bike everyday, after all  :lol


When I'm based somewhere for a few days, like here in Meiringen, the daily mileages are generally under 200. Between destinations, not a great deal more; at most 300, sometimes less. I just don't want to be worn out at the end of each day, and leave myself too tired to do much on the next.
Having said that, I might be running out of steam early on this trip  :\  Might be running out of money early too - Switzerland is foccin expensive! (No "I told you so" please  :rolleyes   :lol  ).
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 13 July 2017, 09:19:59 pm
Last day in Switzerland was spent doing repeats of the Grimsel, Nufenen, Furka and Susten passes, due to lack of imagination. Tbh, you really don't need anything else, they're such great roads, with fabulous scenery and plenty of good cafes.


This mountain had remained hidden on my first visit to the top of the Nufenen, but it dominates the landscape for miles around when it does reveal itself:


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0251_zpsmpp3l4rb.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0251_zpsmpp3l4rb.jpg.html)


The Grimsel Pass road, seen from the start of the Furka Pass road:


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0256_zpsa9btj0wm.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0256_zpsa9btj0wm.jpg.html)


Taken from the same spot, looking up the Furka Pass road:


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0257_zps2rgtnkzh.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0257_zps2rgtnkzh.jpg.html)


And that same highest mountain from the Furka:


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0270_zpsmskubtgm.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0270_zpsmskubtgm.jpg.html)


This shot gives an idea of how it stands head and shoulders above everything else around:


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0271_zpsaocq2rnq.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0271_zpsaocq2rnq.jpg.html)


And a few more from the rest of the day:


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0269_zpsftufsb52.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0269_zpsftufsb52.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0285_zps2bcoufjw.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0285_zps2bcoufjw.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0296_zpss6ndox3p.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0296_zpss6ndox3p.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0300_zpspi45lxsg.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0300_zpspi45lxsg.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0306_zpsbrix7zlu.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0306_zpsbrix7zlu.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0310_zpsvbehnx6d.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0310_zpsvbehnx6d.jpg.html)


Short trip this time as my bank account is in danger of meltdown  :eek


Home via the Route des Cretes (Vosges mountains) from tomorrow.
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: limax2 on 13 July 2017, 09:55:38 pm
Thanks for the tour so far, I've been following it with great interest. Fantastic pictures which give me itchy feet, although I almost feel I've done the trip already  :) .  Safe ride home.
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: 5LV on 14 July 2017, 10:48:52 am
glad you enjoyed the road to oppenau. see if you can come back via the vosges mountains from Freiburg to St Die des Vosges ;)
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: robbo on 14 July 2017, 07:15:23 pm
Excellent account and pics Nick.Will pm you a few questions when you get back.Enjoy,and ride safe. :)
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 14 July 2017, 09:35:45 pm
glad you enjoyed the road to oppenau. see if you can come back via the vosges mountains from Freiburg to St Die des Vosges ;)


Tick!  :D
Route des Cretes done, fabulous ride. Currently overnighting in Metz, which is a lovely city, very lively cafe culture. Too late to be bothered with pics tonight, maybe tomorrow or when I get home.


Robbo, feel free to fire away with the questions  :thumbup
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 14 July 2017, 10:49:24 pm
Oh well, got round to it tonight after all.
Route des Cretes:

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0326_zpswmcbl8ol.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0326_zpswmcbl8ol.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0327_zps77jyvb1b.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0327_zps77jyvb1b.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0338_zpslke4lfpe.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0338_zpslke4lfpe.jpg.html)


Highest point on the route I believe:


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0340_zpsugqhukiu.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0340_zpsugqhukiu.jpg.html)


Couple of cafes and a hotel at the top:


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0344_zpsx6rpt7yl.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0344_zpsx6rpt7yl.jpg.html)


In the tradition of posting pics of food eaten on a trip:


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0342_zpszdotngdm.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0342_zpszdotngdm.jpg.html)


Oops, sorry, I ate it!  :lol


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0351_zps5ni12qyu.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0351_zps5ni12qyu.jpg.html)


Sainte Marie aux Mines, at the northern end of the route:


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0356_zpswaoanjhs.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0356_zpswaoanjhs.jpg.html)


The owner of the hotel I'm at in Metz has impeccable taste:


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0359_zpstqabwg7j.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0359_zpstqabwg7j.jpg.html)


Well ok, it's blue...we can't all be riding gods  :lol


Metz, dominated by the magnificent cathedral:


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0362_zpswg55rsgi.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0362_zpswg55rsgi.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0363_zpsghwvlrke.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0363_zpsghwvlrke.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0374_zpsatjl2rjv.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0374_zpsatjl2rjv.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0379_zpsdkzwarzy.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0379_zpsdkzwarzy.jpg.html)


The Moselle river:


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0384_zpsvmjiv7ln.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0384_zpsvmjiv7ln.jpg.html)


(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/DSCN0394_zpsy88l0ywh.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/DSCN0394_zpsy88l0ywh.jpg.html)


Chunnel train and an overnight stay in Dover tomorrow, before the slog back to Carlisle. No epic one-hit returns this time!
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: slimwilly on 18 July 2017, 11:28:27 pm
Lovely trip mate  and may there be many more
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 19 July 2017, 12:05:51 am
Lovely trip mate  and may there be many more


No, I'm afraid there may not, no more money!  :'(
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: lew600fazer on 19 July 2017, 08:57:53 am

Thanks Nick, fantastic trip and amazing photograhs really enjoyed your posts.  Money wise your obviously very adapt at getting about on a bike. Rob a bank (they have been doing that to us for years) and head for the hills.

Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: moffmeister on 19 July 2017, 09:59:48 am
Great pics and commentary - I've still not managed to get to Europe on the bike - maybe Spring Meet 20 !
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: midden on 24 July 2017, 09:34:35 am
Great pics and commentary - I've still not managed to get to Europe on the bike - maybe Spring Meet 20 !


now that would be a good event, Spring meet's euro vacation..... next year
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: downey on 25 July 2017, 12:26:04 am
wow epic trip and as always unreal pictures but tbf id say u couldnt take a bad picture in a place like that,,thanks for takin us along,,someday ill get there
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 25 July 2017, 04:53:49 pm
tbf id say u couldnt take a bad picture in a place like that


This ^
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: kitcrazy on 29 July 2017, 07:38:09 pm
Looks amazing mate would love to do a trip like that.
Title: Re: Off to Euroland again
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 29 July 2017, 10:27:13 pm
It was only ten days this time, including a day each way to the Chunnel from Carlisle, but worth every minute. This year I decided I wanted to do all the Europe biking routes that everyone raves about (except Route Napoleon, which me and Neil did last year).
Did the N260 (Pyrenees), Route des Grandes Alpes, B500, Route des Cretes and the Susten/Furka/Grimsel loop. And now I'm skint. But glad I did them all, great memories.