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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner => Topic started by: Graham53 on 01 October 2016, 08:04:25 pm
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I feel like a right numpty asking about this especially after my last post about lights but does anyone know anything about oxford heated grips ?? :wall
I've never had any heated grips over the years but new bike has them ( I think !!) but I'm buggered if I can see a controller and all the ones I've ever seen have a little controller box.
It's got the grips with the wiring coming out but the wiring leads into the loom still no controller box.
Do they do heated grips without a controller ?? Are they on all the time ? ( haven't felt warm when ridden ) surely there must be a switch or something they can't be on all time what if it's 80 deg outside.
I've taken all the givi luggage off today so had seat and tail off and can't see any power box or control unit
Dealer said it had heated grips but not sure now
My chilly digits thank you in advance
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You only need two things to see you through the winter, I had these on the fazer then moved them to the bandit -
- Dr Bike heated grips - these are based on the old but good analogue Oxford design - £39 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DR-BIKE-HEATED-GRIPS-MOTORCYCLE-MOTORBIKE-KEEP-WARM-UNIVERSAL-FIT-HAVE-HOT-HANDS/121867206707?_trksid=p2141725.c100338.m3726&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20150313114020%26meid%3Dea20d1e968b94600ac99dcf3aca1af5e%26pid%3D100338%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D141881650983)
- Tech7 Handlebar muffs - These are semi ridged, and have 2" height that allow for better lever free-space- £17 (http://www.mandp.co.uk/index.php/default/tech-7-evo-handlebar-muffs.html)
The only mod-work you have to (and I recommend) you do is to drill and tap a small hole in the end of your bar ends so you can place a bolt through the muffs to keep them in-place. See attached images. And lastly use cable ties on the opposite ends to properly lock them down.
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Oxford Heated grips every time, I've put them on every bike I've owned over the years, easy to fit, reliable and get hot enough to keep your hands nice and warm. My only gripe is with any heated grips is the tips of my thumbs get cold as they face the cold air directly.
Best grips in my opinion is the Oxford Premium Touring ones, you can get them on eBay for around £45, but the price creeps up as winter closes in....
Can't comment on the heated mits, not tried them.
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Can you wear gloves with the Tech7 muffs?
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Can you wear gloves with the Tech7 muffs?
If I had them muffs on my bike I would put a hoodie on backwards so no foccer would recognise me. :groan
Anyway we all know a muff is something completely different. :lol
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Handlebar muffs may make a bike look like a dogs breakfast, but together with heated grips you can get away with summer weight gloves and make winter biking a much more bearable experience.For next years Dragon Rally, the muffs will definetely be on.
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I'm with Robbo on this one. Used muffs for the last 15 years, it's the best way of keeping your hands warm with heated grips and summer gloves. It's a combo that ive found that works!
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Oxford Heated grips every time
The Dr Grips are based on the Oxford gen1 design, thre was nothing wrong with this but Oxford keep comoing up with new way to raise the price
Can you wear gloves with the Tech7 muffs?
Yes, thats one of the reason these muffs are so good. The 1.5-2" height space makes it mucher easier to move your hand around, as well as making moving from the levers to the bar unhindered. However I dont use full winter gloves, I have a pair of Richa all ice polar toruing gloves. Not as thick as full winter so allow for more freedom of movement under the muffs, and due to being textile dry out far, far quicker then leather.
- Handlebar muffs may make a bike look like a dogs breakfast,
- but together with heated grips you can get away with summer weight gloves and make winter biking a much more bearable experience.
- Yes and no, when you never have to experience hands being so cold they go numb you get used to the look very quickly.
- Only untill the temp gets below 5c, at that point wind chill factor(wcf) becomes an issue. For example at 0c the wcf @70 drop's the air temp around the muffs to -11c, so summer gloves are a non-option due to a certain amount of draft from the main opening
@To the OP, I also have foam lever grips on my brake/clutch levers. During the winter this increases the amount of time it take for my fingers to start feeling cold, the image below is just example (mine are black). I have been using these for years from halfords (http://www.halfords.com/cycling/bike-parts/handlebars-ends-grips-tape/clarkes-sports-foam-grips), even before they were a thing for motorcycles. The link below is for ones in different colours -
- http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bikeit-Motorcycle-Scooter-Bike-Unviersal-Lever-Grip-Handle-Sleeve-Foam-Cover-Red-/252421362193?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bikeit-Motorcycle-Scooter-Bike-Unviersal-Lever-Grip-Handle-Sleeve-Foam-Cover-Red-/252421362193?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368)(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzYxWDE2MDA=/z/KuQAAOSwstxVe6Gw/$_1.JPG)
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Graham53 they've strayed from the thread a bit i've a controller on mine with 4 settings i know it's an oxford heated grips but was on the bike when purchased so don't know the actual model sorry. Have you peeled away some of the loom to find the connections it maybe live switched to an accessory ?
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There must be a controller somewhere. Latest version in v8 looks like this www.getgeared.co.uk/oxford-hot-grips-heat-controller (http://www.getgeared.co.uk/oxford-hot-grips-heat-controller)
Previous version 7 looks like this http://www.whitedogbikes.com/ccp51/media/images/product_xlarge/oxford-hot-grips-x.jpg (http://www.whitedogbikes.com/ccp51/media/images/product_xlarge/oxford-hot-grips-x.jpg)
Unless of course the previous owner has got fed up with them and ripped all the wiring out just leaving the grips on the bars. In which case they have just one setting - cold
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Do they actually heat up?
I stopped using Oxfords because I had two controllers fail after a single winter. Went for a cheaper option (R&G I think) that used analog controllers and never had a problem again. Could be the controller failed and binned it.
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I actually found the controller yesterday , believe it or not it's located deep inside the fairing and to turn it on or off you have to put your hand up inside , I assume that the previous owner had done that to stop dickheads turning it on when parked up and killing the battery. You wouldn't know it's there and I only found it when I was giving it a clean.
Thanks for all the replies and I like the lever covers as I don't like muffs and prefer summer gloves
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Oxford V8 controller automatically turns itself off after about 2 minutes if accidentally left on (or turned on by dickheads). I've got it on two of my bikes and have tested it and it works. V7 should do that as well but seems unreliable.
'Deep inside the fairing' seems handy when changing your mind while riding along :thumbdown
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yup and it's upside down to make that even easier :'( when I first tried it out I had it too hot as you can't clearly see controller couldn't turn it down as on a motorway and had to keep taking a hand off the bars to cool them off. Getting used to heat levels now but don't think it turns off after 2 mins as forgot it while I went to into shop and was gone about 10 mins and it was still on, I've put a tag on my keys to remind me to turn the bloody thing off
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If you wire them to a switched source, they should only work when the ignition is switched on and no dickheads can come and switch them on unknowingly......
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why do you want to heat your gloves up?
keep the core warm and it will keep your extremities warm too.
imo heated grips do a good job of warming your handlebars up.
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To be honest I've never had heated grips before and likewise thought the same about heating the bars but as they were fitted and a few mates had them and raved about them I thought I'd give em a try but at the mo the jury's out there have been times my hands have not lost circulation and not gone white and numb but I'm unsure if that was the grips or warmer weather ! I'm gonna leave em on for the winter to see.
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I've got Suzuki dl handguard and Oxford heated grips and wear shortie summer gloves all winter,20 miles each way commute
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I had a home made heated jacket (an insulated thread,woven through a liner, bought off ebay).
Dead simple, no thermostat and quite often had to undo my collar to let the heat out.