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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner => Topic started by: slimwilly on 21 April 2013, 07:11:30 am
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I sure is nice to be able to jump on the bike and pop into town to make a purchase but where the hell do you put the goods,i have often used a tank bag, then there is the rucksack or rear tie on bag, this is of course if you have not got ugly (but practical) wind buffeting top or side boxes.
I not long ago stopped on the way home at a chip shop, i unzipped the leathers and popped them inside ,by the end of that road i had to stop, my titties were on fire, burning hot, i had to wait for them to cool before i continued.
Now i have seen via the American web side a rear fixed storage pod that replaces the pillion seat,i think it was about £400 :eek ,but a very good idea,remove the rear seat and fit the pod using the same lock on fixings on the bike,very clever,no more burnt titties,
So i am going to try to make one, it will also be a better base to fix my touring rear strap on luggage bag.
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top box or a ventura bag kit is simplest . ventura bag holds 45 litres and just slides on and off a metal hoop which attaches to side rails fixed to the bike. On my fazer I have a small grab rail which I put on the side rails when the bag hoop not in use. Google ventura luggage and should get you a supplier.
You could use the ventura bag just like a shopping bag, then go to bike and simply slide it on the hoop. Best and simplest system I have ever used tbh.
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Personally I'm not a great fan of the pillion boxes, they look a bit odd. Ventura is the most flexible of the carrying systems, and a top box is just like having a boot on a car.
Once you've had one, you can't do without. But every credit to ya making your own system.
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I was aiming at a fixed compartment box, lockable, where i can leave tool kit,waterproofs,locks(should be on the bike) where i dont have to remember to take a bag and then if i see something i know i can take it home safely.A permantent butperhaps odd looking :lol ,maybe if i get the paint colour near then not so odd, but very practical.
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I was aiming at a fixed compartment box, lockable, where i can leave tool kit,waterproofs,locks(should be on the bike) where i dont have to remember to take a bag and then if i see something i know i can take it home safely.A permantent butperhaps odd looking :lol ,maybe if i get the paint colour near then not so odd, but very practical.
Just buy a topbox and a rack, it'll be a lot easier and less hassle, and you've still got the pillion seat for when you need even more stuff carried!
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Just buy a topbox and a rack, it'll be a lot easier and less hassle, and you've still got the pillion seat for when you need even more stuff carried!
+1 on the box/rack if you want it to be permanent.
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Cargo net? About £5 from Halfords (other motor spares outlets are available). :)
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Sorry but i sure do not want a top box or similar,or panniers even,
I am going to make a rear trunk that utilises the locking mechanism from the pillion seat.
I went out yesterday and because i thought it might rain i took my waterproofs,that meant a tank bag had to be put on,now how handy would a fixed trunk be?
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Just buy a topbox and a rack, it'll be a lot easier and less hassle, and you've still got the pillion seat for when you need even more stuff carried!
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I use to hate topboxes and I use to take the piss out my mates who had one on there bikes.... :rollin
But after fitting one to my own bike I never hardly go anywhere with it now... ;)
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For proper touring then probably a very good thing,safe way for good sized loads.
I am going to try to make a small rear box from an old copper water cylinder
(http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr61/slimwilly/one_zpsefc8ac52.jpg) (http://s470.photobucket.com/user/slimwilly/media/one_zpsefc8ac52.jpg.html)
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Difficult to mould it to the angles and shape needed but going ok
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The rear fixing slot that the lock locates to
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That fits nicely
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fit one of them pizza box holders ya see about from scooters? :rollin
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,haha.maybe donner kebabs door to door
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I've got a Fastbag that I occasionally fit onto my rear seat. It's like an aerodynamic expandable top box. It's also key lockable and has a carry handle when removed... It comes in various colours, but can be colour coded to match your bike... :D
Unfortunatly there's no dealers that I have found in the UK, but I got mine a few years ago from Ebay...
www.fastbag.com (http://www.fastbag.com)
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Then the front retaining hooks
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Then an older boiler door for a double skin lid
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Got to be honest, you need your head testing :eek
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And some mocked devilisam on his adventures. Yes, it looks a bit of a dogs dinner but think of it as a prototype and if a second version was a little neater, painted up it could look good.
Lets salute the vision and ingenuity.
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Haha :lol :nana
Proto type, this is for real :eek
When its colour coded in it will be a very useful addition,it is purposefully having a flat top as a solid base for my rear pack for when we go to Mugello in a few weeks.All the luggage will be tight behind me so no wind buffeting or wobbling. :sun ,then a certain amount of kit can stay on the bike secure and not have to be carried into the hotel in my luggage.See you got to think about these things.
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Here i have fitted the front two hooks,middle locking loop and the two locaters at the rear
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might look better painted ???
only thing which would concern me is its metal, and in a crash could be a danger if you hit it ? I dunno, but is this worth it ??
bring it along on sunday to the bike shed !
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I still have a bit to do on it yet.hinge the lid.secure lock then paint
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Looks like a hard version of one of these that are also available here in the UK
http://www.thecycleguys.com/fastpack-tail-bags/ (http://www.thecycleguys.com/fastpack-tail-bags/)
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You, my friend, are cuckoo. PMSL. :kiss
Backpack?
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You, my friend, are cuckoo. PMSL. :kiss
Backpack?
:lol cuckoo !! who me, ? :lol bee described as worse than that. :b
The mission is 1= a lockable storage unit, 2= not loose bag,rucksack,tie on,strap on 3 = don't want a top box,too big,need to carry locks,waterproofs, chips,maps etc
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I've just found a pic of my Fastbag... ;)
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That fastbag is an answer to the smal load carriyng problem iguess,
It may be an idea to make the steel bracket frame and learn to make fibre glass forming, then one could mould it to a desireable shape.
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Hi Slimwilly. My Fastbag does expand like a concertina to double it's size. However I have to say I admire your handmade tailpack handywork. You're a man after my own heart. I reckon it'll look the dogs gooseberries when it's finished... ;-)
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Cheers, its only a first attempt, a bit rushed really,,,a PROTO TYPE lol
Its coming on now, fiddly bits like getting the hinge to work and now fitting a Yale lock :eek
Paint later today,,yes paint,
The concept is spot on but may be easier if i make the steel frame and then learn how to do fibreglass,could be interesting.
There was a US Corbin one ,now seems to be discontinued, it was £400 :eek
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Got a rattly can of paint and gave it some,,,its piss thin though in them halfords aerosols
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Well that carry space will come in very useful, especially when we go touring as it is a base for my rear pack, and there will be no tools or locks in my clothes bags now
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I do hear the theme tune to Wallace and Grommit when i see that ...
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That's quite impressive as a hand made item bud. 8)
I notice the key in the side panel. Is that the chain flush? :fish
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You've got a problem...........far too much time on your hands ;)
Get a Ventura system, brilliant.............45 litres of chips please, go easy on the vinegar! :lol
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i can't help but feel that the consensus here is being too harsh on the man. it's a bespoke solution that fulfils every criteria that was set out from the start. it obviously works and as a quickly sprayed up proto type is great.
all this 'just get this' solution or 'just get that' solution generally costs loads, i'm guessing that this old copper tank solution cost pennies.
good work slimwilly.
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Well if you are a biker then you know the problem,
how much stuff can you put in your pockets,makes you look like Edna from Liverpool who lives next to the chip shop,fat cow :lol
You want to go for a couple of hours spin,what can you carry with you,what small purchase can you make and get it home? will you have you rear pack or tank bag on all the time? no.
I am not into rear boxes,nowt against them,some people commute,and they are useful.
What about a map? lock, tools,phone, i can leave this box on and it is sucurely locked on and locked with a key.
Billy
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Not my cup of tea but if you are happy who cares what anyone else thinks. At least something is still gettin made in Britain!
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I hope it doesn't vibrate about on the move as it will rub away at the surrounding bodywork :\
Is there any rubber / neoprene to isolate it from the bodywork panels?
It sort of looks like a little coffin for dispatching small animals.....new business venture there mate :lol
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That little 4 wheeled stand in the pics looks the biz....where did you get that from? How much?
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The workshop wheel stand is ace, it was on offer at busters £30 or £40, a bit cheap made but i use the pins through the axle for a positive fix, it wont fall off then, i can move the bike anywhere then,side to side,push it against the wall out of the way.
(http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr61/slimwilly/Photo0234_zpsd6601a5f.jpg) (http://s470.photobucket.com/user/slimwilly/media/Photo0234_zpsd6601a5f.jpg.html)
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A very useful tool (cheaply made but it does the job, it comes with multiple lift options, plates
Billy
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Well if you are a biker then you know the problem,
how much stuff can you put in your pockets,makes you look like Edna from Liverpool who lives next to the chip shop,fat cow :lol
You want to go for a couple of hours spin,what can you carry with you,what small purchase can you make and get it home? will you have you rear pack or tank bag on all the time? no.
I am not into rear boxes,nowt against them,some people commute,and they are useful.
What about a map? lock, tools,phone, i can leave this box on and it is sucurely locked on and locked with a key.
Billy
Love the engineering involved in that mate, but I think you need your head screwed on if you think it looks better than a decent colour matched topbox :lol
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:) Talking about box's for carrying your stuff ... mark my word .. the age of the sidecar will return :eek
Stay Safe ;) Trev
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Love the ingenuity in the paddock stand and your Heath Robinson 'storage solution'. You could be on for a recycling grant, too, for finding another use for an old water heater.
However, I have to agree with the consensus that it looks a bit out of place, finish-wise, on a nice new bike. I'd be inclined to look out for a pillion seat unit from a breakers, strip off the cover and foam and modify the base to take a small top box or semi-rigid bag. That way you could flip easily between original pillion seat and your 'bikers' handbag'. :)
Keep Wombling, mate! ;)
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Dont worry too much about it, it,s main use is for a base to put my touring tail pack onto and not have the two locks and tools,chain lube,etc in with my clothes,it wont be on there all the time but it sure will be useful at times.
Billy,
Mind you as this was a first trial ,prototype, it has proven its use and it would be no problem to make a box with flowing lines to compliment the bike, maybe with fibreglass.
Billy
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Now i have seen via the American web side a rear fixed storage pod that replaces the pillion seat,i think it was about £400 :eek ,but a very good idea,remove the rear seat and fit the pod using the same lock on fixings on the bike,very clever,no more burnt titties,
I just seen this one on Ebay here http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rear-Seat-Tail-Bag-for-FZ-1-2006-2011-FZ6R-2009-2011-FZ-8-2011-/271198631093?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f24b2b4b5 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rear-Seat-Tail-Bag-for-FZ-1-2006-2011-FZ6R-2009-2011-FZ-8-2011-/271198631093?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f24b2b4b5)
Rear Seat Tail Bag for FZ-1 2006-2011 / FZ6R 2009-2011 / FZ-8 2011
US $68.45 (Approximately £44.07)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d9/chaparral02/T2eC16Nw0E9szNm1WBRRVP5DDg60_1.jpg) (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/chaparral02/media/T2eC16Nw0E9szNm1WBRRVP5DDg60_1.jpg.html)
Postage: US $80.98 (approx. £52.14) :rollin
Import charges:US $35.22 (amount confirmed at checkout) :rollin
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Yes there are some useful tail packs out there,that one looks good,
I just checked the capacity of my lockable tin box , i got a good cable lock,disk lock,chain lube,tool kit,and there is still room for more,i can then fit my touring tail pack for clothes etc ontop,,now i have to work out the simplest and most secure way to strap the tail bag on,dont want any accidents now.
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Aldi camera bag (tenner), couple of tie straps and a bungee. No good for touring Europe but good enough for a day out.