Post by: derildo on 03 July 2012, 10:07:04 am
I have just recently bought a 2000 Fazer 600 with only 3.5k miles, it had its last service at an official yamaha dealer in 2001 at 2800 miles.
So I think it is safe to assume that the sprocket nut /shaft check has never done. So I was going to order the mod. kit with part number: 90891-10124.
A J Suttons website does'nt recognise that part number but gives
152174630000 nut and WASHER, LOCK(3LD) as 2 separate items.
I assume these will be the modded items?
regards
Post by: darrsi on 03 July 2012, 11:42:19 am
They'll ask you for your chassis number before they deal with you so have it on hand, but you will get the original part.
It's the 12mm thick nut that you want.
Post by: NotAnotherHill on 03 July 2012, 08:13:46 pm
Post by: darrsi on 03 July 2012, 09:08:21 pm
You have the correct part number anyway, but obviously mention you want the upgraded 12mm nut to make certain.
http://www.fowlers.co.uk/parts/from_fowlers_web.html (http://www.fowlers.co.uk/parts/from_fowlers_web.html)
Post by: derildo on 03 July 2012, 09:09:22 pm
Cheers I'll be careful what I ask for!
regards
Post by: jonesthesteam on 03 July 2012, 09:44:23 pm
Hope this helps
Jonesthsteam
Post by: derildo on 06 July 2012, 03:02:49 pm
I have the correct items now. and will fit them this w/e
Post by: YorkieFazer on 23 August 2012, 12:47:39 pm
I contacted my local Yamaha dealer, CMC Clay Cross, Chesterfield and mentioned the inspection notice. They knew immediately about the problem and checked if my bike had been done, it hadn't, they ordered the parts and fitted them free of charge.
Can't fault the service that I have received from CMC.
I would advise anybody to contact their dealer and mention the inspection notice to service before buying the parts.
Post by: DryRob on 24 August 2012, 01:49:48 pm
I ended up buying mine through CMS in Exeter and fitted it myself when I changed the sprockets and chain. I had the guy at CMS measuring the bolts over the phone to check I was ordering the right parts and got it in the post next day, great service.
Official part number (nut and lock washer set): 90891-10124
Post by: caretaker on 24 August 2012, 04:46:19 pm
washer: 9021521290
nut: 9017918020
both fitted along with DID chain and sprox. different bike already!!
Post by: darrsi on 24 August 2012, 05:08:08 pm
Post by: darrsi on 24 August 2012, 08:48:27 pm
@Caretaker, i just found this on the old FOC-U forum, i was correct in saying you have the old 9mm nut on your bike, and not the 12mm modded one.
Fowlers should be well aware of this by now, and it should really flag up on their computer about this issue!
It's only a few quid for the modded nut, but it's worth changing for peace of mind in my humble opinion.......:
".....ok got to the bottom of this, spoke to the dealer earlier in the week and spoke to another parts man who confirmed his mate looked up the kit (90891-10124) but ordered the 2 separate parts. They came in 2 bags, the washer being 90215-21290 and the nut 90179-18020 and of course this was wrong.
They then placed an order to yamaha just for the kit number 90891-10124 which turned up today in one bag with the correct modded nut.
The conclusion of this in case any one else has the problem, make sure the dealer orders the kit....."
Post by: Major Rant on 24 August 2012, 09:59:03 pm
You CAN measure this with the nut and sprocket in place: you need a steel ruler and a close-up view and an understanding of the word "parallax".
Mine is a 2000 bike, 10K miles, it has never had its nut replaced, the output shaft is definitely greater than 17mm... (by at least 0.2mm) so I'm leaving it alone.
Probably corroded on by now anyway :eek .
Post by: darrsi on 25 August 2012, 07:15:07 am
Mind you, 10,000 miles in 12 years, do you not ride it? :lol
Post by: rjd1 on 25 August 2012, 10:10:00 am
couldnt be more helpful in kirkcaldy cheer`s Mark
ordered new nut and washer there and then
they even offered to fit it and torque to correct setting but was allready on my ramp stripped
i fitted and torqued myself then ran it out for them to have a check
shaft was fine threads good and no play in shaft it was nut threads that were away
wife`s bike it`s a 99 and done 30 thou
Post by: Major Rant on 26 August 2012, 10:10:58 pm
Quote
do you not ride it?
I ride it on fine summer evenings to country pubs ... I gave up riding in the cold and wet 20 years ago :o .
Anything below 5C is 'car time'... and modern computer generated weather forecasts mean that "getting wet" is punishment for not
doing your climate simulation properly before you go out.
Use NOAA (kindly funded by the American taxpayer and me!) ... http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/READYcmet.php (http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/READYcmet.php)
You need never get wet again!
Post by: darrsi on 27 August 2012, 01:01:12 am
I'm in permanent bike mode, and can't believe how car drivers don't see what i see!
I get straight in the back of a car, seat belt on, and look at the floor! :lol
Post by: dave8204 on 28 January 2013, 07:04:24 pm
Mechanic mate of mine had an 03 Fazer 600 in last week for a new chain and sprockets,took the front sprocket cover off and there was no retaining or washer to be found! He knows the problem so the bike was checked before the modded part was ordered but obviously there are still bikes "out there" in a potentially dangerous condition.
Post by: unfazed on 28 January 2013, 08:30:39 pm
The fix I decided to try is in the downloads section if your interested http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=43 (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=43)
Post by: darrsi on 28 January 2013, 08:34:24 pm
Prevention is always better than cure, especially when safety is the issue!
Post by: alexanderfitu on 28 January 2013, 10:24:22 pm
Post by: dudeboy52 on 29 January 2013, 07:56:43 am
Post by: alexanderfitu on 29 January 2013, 07:58:35 am
Post by: darrsi on 29 January 2013, 09:18:13 am
Bit of a silly question but how can i check to tell if my bike has the modded nut or not?If you can't see a nut there, you probably had the old one...... :lol
Post by: packie on 29 January 2013, 12:24:34 pm
The problem is due to the tolerances on the output shaft. If the width of the shaft threads are less than 17.45mm diameter then the problem will not go away regardless of what nut you use. This is from experience and if you check out the thread [url]http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,4546.msg45712.html#msg45712[/url] ([url]http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,4546.msg45712.html#msg45712[/url]) you will see what I did to try and resolve the problem, eventually with Yamaha footing half the cost of the parts required to fix the problem on a bike with over 70000miles
The fix I decided to try is in the downloads section if your interested [url]http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=43[/url] ([url]http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=43[/url])
Just seen yer profile....what part of Cork are you from?
Post by: unfazed on 29 January 2013, 11:14:54 pm
About a mile as the crow flies west of the Airport.
Where abouts are you?
Post by: ChristoT on 30 January 2013, 09:59:49 am
This is on an '00 Fazer, medium to high mileage, and scruffy in appearance. The only cost to me was the fuel, and 40p for a missing cover bolt.
As for the nut, if in doubt, phone Yamaha UK up. If there's no record of any warranty work being done on yours, chances are they didn't do it. If so, you can go to a dealer and have it inspected and replaced for free. Insist that it's a manufacturing problem Yamaha know about, and are replacing free of charge!!
Post by: packie on 30 January 2013, 10:14:56 am
Packie
About a mile as the crow flies west of the Airport.
Where abouts are you?
Ballinhassig area so? I'm in the City...southside. I work on the Airport Road so you might see my blue Fazer with white wheels floating about!
Post by: darrsi on 30 January 2013, 10:18:05 am
I just had my nut & sprocket replaced by Yamaha free of charge - thanks, Yam!
This is on an '00 Fazer, medium to high mileage, and scruffy in appearance. The only cost to me was the fuel, and 40p for a missing cover bolt.
As for the nut, if in doubt, phone Yamaha UK up. If there's no record of any warranty work being done on yours, chances are they didn't do it. If so, you can go to a dealer and have it inspected and replaced for free. Insist that it's a manufacturing problem Yamaha know about, and are replacing free of charge!!
Nice work, not all the shops have done that in the past! :)
Post by: DryRob on 30 January 2013, 11:00:33 am
I just had my nut & sprocket replaced by Yamaha free of charge - thanks, Yam!
This is on an '00 Fazer, medium to high mileage, and scruffy in appearance. The only cost to me was the fuel, and 40p for a missing cover bolt.
As for the nut, if in doubt, phone Yamaha UK up. If there's no record of any warranty work being done on yours, chances are they didn't do it. If so, you can go to a dealer and have it inspected and replaced for free. Insist that it's a manufacturing problem Yamaha know about, and are replacing free of charge!!
Nice work, not all the shops have done that in the past! :)
My local dealer denied any knowledge of it and offered me the original part as a replacement because "that's what it says on the system".
Post by: ChristoT on 30 January 2013, 11:09:31 am
Nice work, not all the shops have done that in the past! :)
My local dealer denied any knowledge of it and offered me the original part as a replacement because "that's what it says on the system".
They tried, at first. However, I'd done my homework, and quoted the service numbers to the chap (see the article "Lost your front sprocket" - hidden in there is a reference to Service note 2005-12A). He said I would have to call Yam UK to confirm it. So I did, and got a very helpful chap at the other end who was very apologetic, but confirmed that the job WAS Yamaha's responsibility, and that the cost of replacing the sprocket would be covered by Yam UK. But the dealer did try and play the "first I've ever heard of it" card. He did back down after I told him I'd just spoken to Yam UK, and that they would foot the bill.
If you'll forgive me for saying so, your dealer is bullshitting you, Rob. Either that, or he's crap!
Post by: Jazz999 on 30 January 2013, 11:15:29 am
Post by: ChristoT on 30 January 2013, 11:19:50 am
Just stumbled across this thread and has me concerned! 2002 foxeye 600 - likely to be a problem or is it only the box eyes that are affected?
All Fazer 600s, Thundercats, and FZ-6s.
I doubt my sprocket WOULD have fallen off before the mod was done, but best for peace of mind. Might not be a bad idea to ring Yamah UK and ask whether the mod was done or not on your machine.
Post by: Jazz999 on 30 January 2013, 11:25:40 am
Post by: ChristoT on 30 January 2013, 11:30:36 am
Soo many numbers on the Yam website! Any idea which is the best one? Don't really wanna be taking the cover off in the piddling rain if i have to to measure the nut!Who said measure the nut? If the mod HAS been done, you're fine, if not, they'll want a dealer to inspect it anyway. Either that, or phone you local dealer, ask them direct. And if they're uncooperative, ask them for Yamaha's number.
Post by: Jazz999 on 30 January 2013, 11:34:00 am
Post by: alexanderfitu on 30 January 2013, 01:09:13 pm
Soo many numbers on the Yam website! Any idea which is the best one? Don't really wanna be taking the cover off in the piddling rain if i have to to measure the nut!Who said measure the nut? If the mod HAS been done, you're fine, if not, they'll want a dealer to inspect it anyway. Either that, or phone you local dealer, ask them direct. And if they're uncooperative, ask them for Yamaha's number.
I did :)
Post by: darrsi on 30 January 2013, 01:17:30 pm
Soo many numbers on the Yam website! Any idea which is the best one? Don't really wanna be taking the cover off in the piddling rain if i have to to measure the nut!Who said measure the nut? If the mod HAS been done, you're fine, if not, they'll want a dealer to inspect it anyway. Either that, or phone you local dealer, ask them direct. And if they're uncooperative, ask them for Yamaha's number.
It's a lot less hassle to take a couple of screws out then measure the nut first?
Post by: ChristoT on 30 January 2013, 01:34:05 pm
Post by: alexanderfitu on 30 January 2013, 01:34:40 pm
Post by: darrsi on 30 January 2013, 01:37:32 pm
Mucking around with a socket set in the pouring rain, or making a phone call from the comfort of an armchair? I know which I consider to be less hassle!! :lol
What's the point in making a phone call if it's possibly already been done???
Post by: ChristoT on 30 January 2013, 01:39:42 pm
lol! I think its the going to the dealears, booking it in, waiting around etc. :p
If the mod's been done, chances are it'll be on Yamaha's records. If the bike isn't on the records, then chances are it wasn't done. Booking in isn't generally a problem, and the did my bike in under an hour - and that was with 2 bikes in front of me too (different jobs on theirs).
Darrsi - what's the point in disturbing the gasket, and dismantling the cover if it has possibly been done? I don't know how good you are with a toolkit, but I'm a noob, and prefer leaving stuff like that to those who know what they're doing.
Post by: alexanderfitu on 30 January 2013, 01:41:30 pm
Post by: darrsi on 30 January 2013, 01:48:09 pm
lol! I think its the going to the dealears, booking it in, waiting around etc. :p
If the mod's been done, chances are it'll be on Yamaha's records. If the bike isn't on the records, then chances are it wasn't done. Booking in isn't generally a problem, and the did my bike in under an hour - and that was with 2 bikes in front of me too (different jobs on theirs).
Darrsi - what's the point in disturbing the gasket, and dismantling the cover if it has possibly been done? I don't know how good you are with a toolkit, but I'm a noob, and prefer leaving stuff like that to those who know what they're doing.
My bike's been done, but i kept it a secret from Yamaha, it's between me and the bike!
As for the gasket, yeah i kind of see your point, but it doesn't do anything at all.
And as for rain, you're a biker now, we don't feel rain. :lol
Post by: Jazz999 on 30 January 2013, 01:48:51 pm
Post by: darrsi on 30 January 2013, 01:56:41 pm
Do not buy any other part number if offered, the above only!
Post by: Lawrence on 30 January 2013, 02:02:01 pm
I was thinking of drilling a hole in the cover and sticking a rubber bung in it so I can check it occasionally. I'm a bit paranoid about it now since it fell off and tend to check it weekly (600 miles) along with everything else.
Post by: Jazz999 on 30 January 2013, 02:10:10 pm
Post by: alexanderfitu on 30 January 2013, 02:28:25 pm
Never noticed it myself :)
(http://i.imgur.com/eOAP8Qi.png)
Post by: Jazz999 on 30 January 2013, 02:47:39 pm
......
Cos it's only 'alf a gasket :-)
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Post by: Jazz999 on 30 January 2013, 02:48:28 pm
......
Cos it's only 'alf a gasket :-)
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Post by: alexanderfitu on 30 January 2013, 02:48:42 pm
Post by: darrsi on 30 January 2013, 02:56:01 pm
Post by: Jazz999 on 30 January 2013, 05:02:55 pm
Figured that if it hasn't been changed, I'll change it; if it has then I have it for when I replace the sprocket and chain. Total price Inc delivery just over £13.
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Post by: alexanderfitu on 30 January 2013, 05:04:09 pm
Post by: darrsi on 30 January 2013, 05:06:12 pm
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-Genuine-Nut-and-Washer-Lock-90891-10124-/230918451728?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35c3cff210 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-Genuine-Nut-and-Washer-Lock-90891-10124-/230918451728?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35c3cff210)
Post by: alexanderfitu on 30 January 2013, 05:06:43 pm
Post by: andybesy on 30 January 2013, 05:09:29 pm
My local Yam dealer also said there was nothing on the system about it, but was vaguely aware that others had expressed concerns about the nut and had it changed.
I didn't bother arguing about warranties with them. I picked up the part myself from Wemoto and just handed it over when I went in for service, asking them to fit it with locktight.
They told me there was no sign of any problems with the old one having come loose, and handed over the old part so I knew it had been done.
Much happier now it's been done - was weighing on my mind a little. For the sake of a tenner well worth it I reckon.
Andy
Post by: DryRob on 30 January 2013, 05:10:33 pm
Nice work, not all the shops have done that in the past! :)
My local dealer denied any knowledge of it and offered me the original part as a replacement because "that's what it says on the system".
They tried, at first. However, I'd done my homework, and quoted the service numbers to the chap (see the article "Lost your front sprocket" - hidden in there is a reference to Service note 2005-12A). He said I would have to call Yam UK to confirm it. So I did, and got a very helpful chap at the other end who was very apologetic, but confirmed that the job WAS Yamaha's responsibility, and that the cost of replacing the sprocket would be covered by Yam UK. But the dealer did try and play the "first I've ever heard of it" card. He did back down after I told him I'd just spoken to Yam UK, and that they would foot the bill.
If you'll forgive me for saying so, your dealer is bullshitting you, Rob. Either that, or he's crap!
Probably both. I changed mine when I fitted new sprockets and chain. It was less hassle for me to do it than pester the dealer and arrange them to do a fix which I wouldn't have trusted and would've ended up checking myself anyway
Post by: andybesy on 30 January 2013, 05:12:44 pm
That should be the kit with the new nut.
Post by: Jazz999 on 30 January 2013, 05:21:40 pm
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Post by: darrsi on 30 January 2013, 06:52:13 pm
That's the one but wow! Expensive! The kit from fowlers was £4.74 plus vat, gasket about £2,delivery first class £3.50 odd.
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You did ask for the part number i stated earlier didn't you?
That sounds too cheap, especially for Fowlers?
Post by: Jazz999 on 30 January 2013, 07:26:22 pm
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Post by: darrsi on 30 January 2013, 07:56:56 pm
Post by: Jazz999 on 30 January 2013, 08:49:28 pm
This is why forums like this are invaluable IMO as otherwise I would have been blissfully unaware - So Kudos to all Foccers out there who keep each other Foccing!
Post by: unfazed on 30 January 2013, 11:04:06 pm
Packie
About a mile as the crow flies west of the Airport.
Where abouts are you?
Ballinhassig area so? I'm in the City...southside. I work on the Airport Road so you might see my blue Fazer with white wheels floating about!
Packie
Sent you a PM
Post by: Jazz999 on 31 January 2013, 04:27:23 pm
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Post by: rjd1 on 03 February 2013, 02:35:28 am
WE GOT IT FREE FROM YAMAHA
dont understand why your all paying for them, they recognise the fault and supply them for FREE
Post by: darrsi on 03 February 2013, 10:28:49 am
i said earlier in the thread i done the upgrade nut and washer on wifes 600 fazer
WE GOT IT FREE FROM YAMAHA
dont understand why your all paying for them, they recognise the fault and supply them for FREE
Some people on here from much older posts have tried but their dealers have denied all knowledge of any known problem, so for the sake of a tenner they've just bought it and got it sorted for peace of mind.
Post by: Chris on 03 February 2013, 01:31:35 pm
i said earlier in the thread i done the upgrade nut and washer on wifes 600 fazer
WE GOT IT FREE FROM YAMAHA
dont understand why your all paying for them, they recognise the fault and supply them for FREE
Out of interest how did you get in touch with Yamaha? As in what phone number did you ring?
Thanks, Chris
Post by: gerkin on 11 February 2013, 06:33:00 pm
Post by: gerkin on 11 February 2013, 06:36:11 pm
Post by: gerkin on 11 February 2013, 06:39:16 pm
Post by: His Dudeness on 11 February 2013, 07:25:19 pm
Post by: rjd1 on 12 February 2013, 12:29:09 am
wasnt much point as i`d allready had it stripped on my ramp ready for new one
they were very helpfull and i received the part within 3 days
duffes is the yamaha dealer
Post by: packie on 12 February 2013, 11:29:38 am
Apologies for reviving a" thread from the dead" but this issue is still arising.
Mechanic mate of mine had an 03 Fazer 600 in last week for a new chain and sprockets,took the front sprocket cover off and there was no retaining or washer to be found! He knows the problem so the bike was checked before the modded part was ordered but obviously there are still bikes "out there" in a potentially dangerous condition.
Just had the same problem myself. My chain had a few tight spots from previous owner and I have decided to change the chain and sprockets even though there was plenty of meat left. Having read this thread, I decided to check to see if I had the old nut or new modified nut......I have NO NUTS!! Not a good position for a guy!!
Anyway, thanks to this thread being revived, it probably have saved my life or my body from serious injury.
Post by: gerkin on 12 February 2013, 05:30:52 pm
Apologies for reviving a" thread from the dead" but this issue is still arising.
Mechanic mate of mine had an 03 Fazer 600 in last week for a new chain and sprockets,took the front sprocket cover off and there was no retaining or washer to be found! He knows the problem so the bike was checked before the modded part was ordered but obviously there are still bikes "out there" in a potentially dangerous condition.
Just had the same problem myself. My chain had a few tight spots from previous owner and I have decided to change the chain and sprockets even though there was plenty of meat left. Having read this thread, I decided to check to see if I had the old nut or new modified nut......I have NO NUTS!! Not a good position for a guy!!
Anyway, thanks to this thread being revived, it probably have saved my life or my body from serious injury.
phew !!glad you found out !
Post by: darrsi on 12 February 2013, 06:37:01 pm
Apologies for reviving a" thread from the dead" but this issue is still arising.
Mechanic mate of mine had an 03 Fazer 600 in last week for a new chain and sprockets,took the front sprocket cover off and there was no retaining or washer to be found! He knows the problem so the bike was checked before the modded part was ordered but obviously there are still bikes "out there" in a potentially dangerous condition.
Just had the same problem myself. My chain had a few tight spots from previous owner and I have decided to change the chain and sprockets even though there was plenty of meat left. Having read this thread, I decided to check to see if I had the old nut or new modified nut......I have NO NUTS!! Not a good position for a guy!!
Anyway, thanks to this thread being revived, it probably have saved my life or my body from serious injury.
Blimey, you were lucky...... :eek
Post by: packie on 12 February 2013, 11:36:05 pm
Post by: darrsi on 13 February 2013, 01:05:08 am
I sure was lucky. I think it was a combination of bit of rust, the tight spots keeping a bit of pressure on the sprocket, and the Grace of God that kept the sprocket from moving. There was a couple of times were I had the bike up to three digits on the speedo....would have been fun if it came off then! :oops
Very lucky, but all is good, so good on you!
I had my bike up to 3 digits once, on the way to work, i remember it vividly, it was 29.3mph :groan
Post by: Dead Eye on 13 February 2013, 02:04:28 am
I had my previous one up to at least 88 mph just to see if anything would happen :lol
Post by: packie on 13 February 2013, 08:45:33 am
Just replaced my sprocket nut for the uprated version (among many many other things) and hopefully getting it out tomorrow after its been off the road for almost 2 weeks pending maintenance...
I had my previous one up to at least 88 mph just to see if anything would happen :lol
Hope the test run goes ok and that you don't experience any problems, Deadeye. :sun
I wouldn't be a speed merchant myself these days, but I think I had it over 100+mph on 3 occasions so far. The first was after I bought the bike in November. I took her out very early on a quite morning with no cops about to test that she was running ok across the whole rev and gear range. Think I backed her off around 125mph when I was satified that she was doing the biz. The second time was a test like the first after I devolped a problem with power delivery which turned out to be a dodgy back brake system. The last time was on the motorway recently overtaking a car at 80mph and left her roll on to a 100mph for a few seconds to put a bit of distance between me and the cager. Other than that, I drive handy enuff with the knowledge if I do need to push the lad on, that she has plenty under the tank to do the biz.
Post by: xlewisbdx on 13 February 2013, 10:33:44 pm
Post by: Dead Eye on 13 February 2013, 10:37:15 pm
I only did it the other day and I've forgotten already...
Post by: DryRob on 14 February 2013, 09:59:19 am
Can I ask... What size spanner or socket would I need for the upgraded nut?
The nut is the same size as the original, it just has more threads so is thicker/deeper/taller.
Post by: Jazz999 on 14 February 2013, 12:37:35 pm
Post by: bandit on 14 February 2013, 12:38:16 pm
Post by: Jazz999 on 14 February 2013, 12:39:23 pm
Post by: Dead Eye on 14 February 2013, 12:40:05 pm
Is it 32mm on the sprocket? Fair enough, my bad :P
Post by: Jazz999 on 14 February 2013, 12:42:16 pm
Post by: alexanderfitu on 14 February 2013, 12:42:31 pm
Post by: Dead Eye on 14 February 2013, 12:45:57 pm
I'm up in Felixstowe so not too far - may take u up on that in the next cpl weeks matey!
Just give me a PM to arrange a date / time when you want :)
Post by: Jazz999 on 14 February 2013, 12:49:50 pm
NOTHING FAZES A FOCCER!
Post by: Dead Eye on 14 February 2013, 02:14:21 pm
Post by: Jazz999 on 14 February 2013, 02:43:59 pm
I wouldn't worry about the gasket for that cover - I can't see what purpose it servesTrue - it was caked in crud behind there anyway! Reckon it keeps the crap from the chain being thrown everywhere else!
Post by: Buzz on 14 February 2013, 02:46:57 pm
Ditto in Harrow, I have an inpact wrench and the sockets requird to make this an easy change. If anybody wants to come round and use them they are welcome.
I may well take you up on that offer, I'm in Holloway and a sprocket/chain/bigger nut change was the next thing on my list.
Sharing is caring after all!
Post by: alexanderfitu on 14 February 2013, 02:48:30 pm
Ditto in Harrow, I have an inpact wrench and the sockets requird to make this an easy change. If anybody wants to come round and use them they are welcome.
I may well take you up on that offer, I'm in Holloway and a sprocket/chain/bigger nut change was the next thing on my list.
Sharing is caring after all!
Of course! Just give me a PM to arrange a time.
Post by: Chris on 14 February 2013, 06:11:58 pm
So went to my local yamaha dealer and got the "I've not heard of this before" so gave him the part number and the service code (from page 2 of this thread) and he said he'd give yamaha a phone to see if I can get it for free, he's ordered it anyway though and it's only £5.43 or something so can't really complain. Will be going back in a day or two to pick it up and hopefully not have to pay for it! haha
Post by: darrsi on 14 February 2013, 06:31:59 pm
Ditto in Harrow, I have an inpact wrench and the sockets requird to make this an easy change. If anybody wants to come round and use them they are welcome.
Erm, hello neighbour...... :)
Post by: alexanderfitu on 14 February 2013, 07:42:54 pm
Ditto in Harrow, I have an inpact wrench and the sockets requird to make this an easy change. If anybody wants to come round and use them they are welcome.
Erm, hello neighbour...... :)
Hello! Where are you in harrow :0
Post by: darrsi on 14 February 2013, 07:44:37 pm
Ditto in Harrow, I have an inpact wrench and the sockets requird to make this an easy change. If anybody wants to come round and use them they are welcome.
Erm, hello neighbour...... :)
Hello! Where are you in harrow :0
Just off the Kenton Road.
Post by: alexanderfitu on 14 February 2013, 08:47:58 pm
Post by: darrsi on 14 February 2013, 09:06:13 pm
ha, im just off Pinner Road! I think I have followed you down Kenton road on my way to work a couple of times.
Not sure about that, i work in Greenford so i would be going towards you on the way to work?
Post by: alexanderfitu on 14 February 2013, 09:07:53 pm
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Post by: darrsi on 14 February 2013, 09:11:32 pm
Oh no true, if you go past northwick park hospital that is
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That's the normal route, unless it's solid traffic , then i'll go via South Harrow for a change of scenery.
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Post by: Yamazer-92 on 15 February 2013, 06:00:51 pm
Post by: Dead Eye on 15 February 2013, 06:26:51 pm
Post by: xlewisbdx on 15 February 2013, 10:19:30 pm
Hi, you need a 32mm socket for the old/new sprocket nut.
Would a spanner be suitable?
Post by: alexanderfitu on 15 February 2013, 10:20:28 pm
Hi, you need a 32mm socket for the old/new sprocket nut.
Would a spanner be suitable?
Ring spanner at the very least, it will be on tight (or should be!) you might have clearance issues with a ring spanner though.
Post by: xlewisbdx on 15 February 2013, 10:24:36 pm
Hi, you need a 32mm socket for the old/new sprocket nut.
Would a spanner be suitable?
Ring spanner at the very least, it will be on tight (or should be!) you might have clearance issues with a ring spanner though.
The 32mm spanner I am looking at had a ring and an open one. for £7.50 I might as well try that first rather than paying £25+ for a ratchet and socket.
Post by: alexanderfitu on 15 February 2013, 10:25:48 pm
Invest in a good socket set! I bought a 250 pounds halfords advanced set 4 years ago and have used it on my car, girfriends car, mums car, all my bikes, its been invaluable.
Post by: xlewisbdx on 15 February 2013, 10:29:04 pm
I dont think you will be able to turn it becuase the nut is reccesed....
Invest in a good socket set! I bought a 250 pounds halfords advanced set 4 years ago and have used it on my car, girfriends car, mums car, all my bikes, its been invaluable.
I'll see how much a set is compared to a buying it on it's own.
Post by: alexanderfitu on 15 February 2013, 10:30:15 pm
Sorted!
Post by: Yamazer-92 on 15 February 2013, 10:53:24 pm
Post by: richfzs on 16 February 2013, 12:56:08 am
[url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-94PC-1-2-1-4-SOCKET-SCREWDRIVER-TOOL-TORX-BITS-SET-RATCHET-KIT-BIT-/190682579772?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item2c6591433c[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-94PC-1-2-1-4-SOCKET-SCREWDRIVER-TOOL-TORX-BITS-SET-RATCHET-KIT-BIT-/190682579772?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item2c6591433c[/url])
Sorted!
Careful there Alex, cheap tools are made of Cheddar (or brie if you're unlucky) and are a false economy. At best, they'll trash themselves, at worst they'll wreck what you're working on and bring a world of pain.
Haven't got any myself, but have only heard good things about halfords pro kit. Expensive full price but nearly always on offer, at which point it becomes sensible - good tools will reward you many times over
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Post by: Dead Eye on 16 February 2013, 01:33:28 am
Also lewis, a spanner is more likely to slip on the nut than a decent socket which may cause you pain both physically and mentally if it damages the head on the sprocket nut. Its also unlikely to fit properly as the whole assembly is set back. The correct socket is probably £5-£7 from Halfrauds or cheaper on eBay and a decent Draper 1/2" Torque Wrench can be found for around £20-£30 if you shop a bit.
Post by: darrsi on 16 February 2013, 02:46:31 am
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Post by: Dead Eye on 16 February 2013, 11:01:25 am
Hands up who was on the piss tonight? :b
Serious question or did I say something stupid :pokefun
Post by: darrsi on 16 February 2013, 11:18:45 am
Hands up who was on the piss tonight? :b
Serious question or did I say something stupid :pokefun
No, i'd just got in, still suffering now! :\
Just waiting for a return phone call now to get called into work.
Can't wait...... :'(
Post by: Lawrence on 16 February 2013, 11:41:42 am
Post by: Dead Eye on 16 February 2013, 05:33:02 pm
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Post by: alexanderfitu on 17 February 2013, 12:41:43 am
[url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-94PC-1-2-1-4-SOCKET-SCREWDRIVER-TOOL-TORX-BITS-SET-RATCHET-KIT-BIT-/190682579772?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item2c6591433c[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-94PC-1-2-1-4-SOCKET-SCREWDRIVER-TOOL-TORX-BITS-SET-RATCHET-KIT-BIT-/190682579772?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item2c6591433c[/url])
Sorted!
Careful there Alex, cheap tools are made of Cheddar (or brie if you're unlucky) and are a false economy. At best, they'll trash themselves, at worst they'll wreck what you're working on and bring a world of pain.
Haven't got any myself, but have only heard good things about halfords pro kit. Expensive full price but nearly always on offer, at which point it becomes sensible - good tools will reward you many times over
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True, and agreed with halfords pro stuff, I have had a 250 pounds halfords kit for 5 years, lots of abuse and its stood up pretty well!
Although with that on ebay, if anything breaks just file a paypal disput and get the money back, :)
Post by: dudeboy52 on 17 February 2013, 07:40:38 am
Post by: alexanderfitu on 17 February 2013, 09:17:40 am
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Post by: darrsi on 17 February 2013, 10:57:17 am
Picked up my new nut and gasket yesterday from Poole Yamaha and was asking about why they come lose and he said it was due to after market sprockets being thinker than the originals so it kind of makes sense now. And it only meant to affect one in every 1000 fazers. So doing mine just in chase :D
Go back to that nice man at Poole Yamaha and hand him a bucket of water, then tell him that his pants are well and truly on fire!
Post by: packie on 17 February 2013, 11:49:08 am
That makes no sense, if that was the case then a thicker nut wouldn't help!
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Exactly, the guy in Poole is talking poop!!....
It would have to be a thinner nut again if aftermarket sprockets were bigger. Its obvious that the small few threads on the original nut just didn't have enuff bite and grip and that the lock washer failed dismally too. They sorted one (the nut), but its up to me go sort the lock washer.
The lock washer is a useless addition unless it is secured onto the sprocket IMO. It is designed to stop the nut from opening and it didn't do its job either because it just turned with the nut. I think that if you bond the lock washer onto the sprocket with JB Weld, or Superglue or with something along that lines, and if the bond is solid and secure, then it would be impossible for any nut including the original to work free if the tabs are over the nut properly and the washer is bonded securely to the sprocket. That is what i'm going doing with mine along with thread locking the nut and giving a few extra NMs of torque pressure as well.
Post by: limax2 on 17 February 2013, 04:48:34 pm
Picked up my new nut and gasket yesterday from Poole Yamaha and was asking about why they come lose and he said it was due to after market sprockets being thinker than the originals so it kind of makes sense now. And it only meant to affect one in every 1000 fazers. So doing mine just in chase :DSteady on guys, this all depends on how you read the word "thinker" in the above post. Is it meant to be "thicker" or "thinner"? :\ .
I very much dought it is thicker as all the original Yamaha sprockets I have measured have been between 9.58 to 9.64mm, which is right on the top limit of becoming a tight fit in a 530 size chain. Theoretically a thicker sprocket (or lock washer) would give slightly more thread engagement with the old nut and very slightly less with the new nut. I have never measured aftermarket sprockets but I suspect they may be a bit thinner.
If a replacement sprocket is thinner then the guys comment does make a little bit of sence with the old nut, although he is still barking up the wrong tree. The old thin nut overruns the shaft thread by about 1mm and a thinner sprocket would make it worse. Within reason it would not have much effect on the new 12mm thick nut.
The real issue, which Yamaha acknowledged, was that some bikes had gearbox shafts fitted that were below tolerance on the diameter of the thread. A minimum O.D. of 17.5mm was the figure given. (I have only measured three and the were all around 17.85mm O.D.).
In the distant past when this topic was lively (on the old forum I think) I did a drawing which would illustrate the above ramblings on thickness. I will now attemp to post the drawing on here.
Post by: limax2 on 17 February 2013, 04:53:19 pm
Edit. A bit bigger than intended ;) .
Post by: limax2 on 17 February 2013, 05:09:36 pm
along with thread locking the nut and giving a few extra NMs of torque pressure as well.Along with the new 12mm wide nut Yamaha U.K. recommended a torque of 90 Nm instead of the original 70 Nm. I agree with the thread locking compound but I would be very wary of exceeding the 90 Nm torque figure. Your choice of course but personally I have gone for thread lock and stayed at 70 Nm.
Post by: darrsi on 17 February 2013, 05:23:51 pm
Somebody said on here recently there's 8000 Fazers in the UK, there's simply no way only 8 people have been affected, there's more than that on this forum alone that we know about, and i'm 1 of them!
Post by: limax2 on 17 February 2013, 05:36:48 pm
Still don't believe the 1 in 1000 statement though.
Thankfully I'm not one of them, but I don't believe it either.
Post by: darrsi on 17 February 2013, 05:41:55 pm
Still don't believe the 1 in 1000 statement though.
Thankfully I'm not one of them, but I don't believe it either.
Mine managed to fuse itself on rather than strip threads or fall off, so fortunately it wasn't going to go anywhere in a hurry, judging by the fun and games my mechanic had getting it off to replace it.
But i still believe there should have been a recall, because it is a known fault, and a dangerous one at that.
Post by: packie on 17 February 2013, 06:55:10 pm
along with thread locking the nut and giving a few extra NMs of torque pressure as well.Along with the new 12mm wide nut Yamaha U.K. recommended a torque of 90 Nm instead of the original 70 Nm. I agree with the thread locking compound but I would be very wary of exceeding the 90 Nm torque figure. Your choice of course but personally I have gone for thread lock and stayed at 70 Nm.
I wasn't aware of the new recommended 90 nm torque from Yam UK. I was going to add another 5 nm on top of the original 70 nm for a 75 total. Might add 10 nm for a 80 nm total with locking glue just for a bit of balance between the two figures.
But for me, glueing the tab washer is the key if you can get glue strong enuff to bond the two together. You could have your nut finger-tight and it won't be going anywhere if the tab washer can't move and the tabs are properly over the nut.
Post by: Chris on 12 March 2013, 05:49:12 pm
Post by: darrsi on 25 March 2013, 02:02:46 pm
I noticed that it has been advised by Yamaha that it should be 90Nm but i don't really want to push my luck!
Post by: Dead Eye on 25 March 2013, 02:54:04 pm
Post by: packie on 25 March 2013, 03:18:31 pm
I'm gonna be changing my chain/sprockets soon, as well as my rear disc (which has seized bolts again :( ) and was wondering if the agreed torque for the new sprocket nut was around the 80Nm mark, with a bit of Loctite thrown in for good measure?I was going to torque up to 90nm myself, but after getting to about 80nm, I got a feel on the pressure that if I pushed it any further, it would have stripped the threads. So i have about 70-80nm, locktite and some wire on the outside acting as a precaution.
I noticed that it has been advised by Yamaha that it should be 90Nm but i don't really want to push my luck!
So Darrsi...I'd say use your judgement too when doing it and don't go at it hammer n tongs.
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Post by: darrsi on 25 March 2013, 04:03:56 pm
Unfortunately i need the bike all the time for work so rather than me hit a brick wall through lack of tools or sheer frustration it's better that they do it for me and get it right first time!
Post by: packie on 25 March 2013, 04:17:14 pm
Unfortunately i need the bike all the time for work so rather than me hit a brick wall through lack of tools or sheer frustration it's better that they do it for me and get it right first time!Ha ha...wishful thinking!....even bike shops can fail to get it right first time!!
Post by: Enceladus on 25 March 2013, 04:36:57 pm
no idea if my bike has had this done or not.
got a rough idea (and i mean rough!) where to look etc, but can someone explain really simply so that an idiot like me can understand!
thanks :)
Post by: darrsi on 25 March 2013, 04:48:17 pm
They're not too bad where i go, and if they mess it up then at least i know i would've messed it up even more!!Unfortunately i need the bike all the time for work so rather than me hit a brick wall through lack of tools or sheer frustration it's better that they do it for me and get it right first time!Ha ha...wishful thinking!....even bike shops can fail to get it right first time!!
Post by: Dead Eye on 25 March 2013, 04:52:41 pm
just spotted this.
no idea if my bike has had this done or not.
got a rough idea (and i mean rough!) where to look etc, but can someone explain really simply so that an idiot like me can understand!
thanks :)
Just remove the black cover that is just above and forward of the gear selector - if you are unsure its the one where the chain disappears behind it. Should be a nut holding the sprocket on and it will be incredibly obvious. If it isn't there then worry, if it is, then you're probably fine :) All you need is a 10mm spanner / socket plus an Allen key - no idea what size, but I think its about 5mm? I have about 4 sets and have managed to mix them up so I just try until I get the right size :P
Post by: darrsi on 25 March 2013, 06:58:59 pm
just spotted this.
no idea if my bike has had this done or not.
got a rough idea (and i mean rough!) where to look etc, but can someone explain really simply so that an idiot like me can understand!
thanks :)
Just remove the black cover that is just above and forward of the gear selector - if you are unsure its the one where the chain disappears behind it. Should be a nut holding the sprocket on and it will be incredibly obvious. If it isn't there then worry, if it is, then you're probably fine :) All you need is a 10mm spanner / socket plus an Allen key - no idea what size, but I think its about 5mm? I have about 4 sets and have managed to mix them up so I just try until I get the right size :P
"...Should be a nut..." :lol
Post by: limax2 on 25 March 2013, 08:15:33 pm
just spotted this.Just to add you will need to remove the small gear change lever before you can remove the cover (10mm spanner required). Make a note of its possition, but there should be a small punch mark on the end of the shaft that lines up with the slot in the lever. The clutch cable going into the top of the cover remains in the cover as you remove it. Not a difficult job as long as you remove all the socket head bolts, five from memory, not forgetting one at the back that goes between the top and bottom chain runs. Also don't loose the two hollow dowel tubes that usually stay in the cover, but can fall out.
no idea if my bike has had this done or not.
got a rough idea (and i mean rough!) where to look etc, but can someone explain really simply so that an idiot like me can understand!
thanks :)
You can actually see the nut without removing anything if you sight along the top run of the chain and shine a torch into the gap behind the cover. It works better if you are in a darkish place. (Physically I mean, not mentally ;) ). You can't tell from this if it is loose at all and without experience if it has the thicker nut.
Post by: Enceladus on 26 March 2013, 09:11:42 am
darrsi has to have the best reply :D
will have a look tonight if i get the chance.
Post by: Dave48 on 25 April 2013, 10:38:11 am
Post by: elbrownos on 25 April 2013, 02:22:25 pm
Post by: Dead Eye on 25 April 2013, 03:10:22 pm
Post by: unfazed on 25 April 2013, 06:59:07 pm
Never done it myself so I'm no expert but don't you need to replace the chain & sprockets as a set?I agree,
I always replace 3 front sprockets to one chain and rear sprockets and chain and rear sprocket last in excess of 40000miles.
Replacing the ful set everytime the front is a bit worn is totally unnecesssary. The front sprocket wears 3 times faster than the rear (15 teeth to 45 teeth). A well looked after chain will need the front replacing around the 10000 mile mark. That is about £21 for 3 sprockets compared to £150 to £200 for a full set.
I am on my third front sprocket with 39000 miles on the chain and rear sprocket with little or no chain lift off the rear sprocket.
Post by: Dave48 on 26 April 2013, 03:26:34 am
Post by: darrsi on 26 April 2013, 06:28:32 am
The shop I bought bike from had fitted a new "gold" chain-probably the cheapest they could find. Rear sprocket has good teeth profile & as said wears at a slower rate than front. The front cheapo aftermarket sprocket had severe hooking of teeth(in direction of travel ie anticlockwise) .When I first rode the bike I was aware that all was not 100%. I will be looking at cush drive rubbers if there is any slop remaining in system. Correct chain tension neither too tight nor too slack & regular cleaning & lubing extends the life of these items amazingly-although there are times when I reminisce about my old shaft drive Honda!-less mess & trouble but if I kept my hands oil-free would I be a "plastic biker"? :lol
I changed the cush drive rubbers on mine last year, and to be honest they are made of such solid rubber that when i looked at the old one's they were more or less like new as well. I changed them anyway as i had the wheel off but it really was rather pointless to be honest.
I had a shaft drive Honda NTV600 for about 10 years prior to the Fazer, and i do miss not having to mess about with chains or scrub the rear wheel to clean any lube off it. :)
And my bike was white, which is why i'm so fond of Foxwood's white Fazer, it was such an easier colour to keep clean and stay looking clean.
My Fazer is black, and although it can look the nuts after a good clean, polish up and a bit of TLC, and is obviously faster and better looking than other coloured bikes, it can also look like shite again after just one downpour of rain :'(
Post by: wezdavo on 26 April 2013, 07:27:16 am
Never done it myself so I'm no expert but don't you need to replace the chain & sprockets as a set?I agree,
I always replace 3 front sprockets to one chain and rear sprockets and chain and rear sprocket last in excess of 40000miles.
Replacing the ful set everytime the front is a bit worn is totally unnecesssary. The front sprocket wears 3 times faster than the rear (15 teeth to 45 teeth). A well looked after chain will need the front replacing around the 10000 mile mark. That is about £21 for 3 sprockets compared to £150 to £200 for a full set.
I am on my third front sprocket with 39000 miles on the chain and rear sprocket with little or no chain lift off the rear sprocket.
I do the same, as you say fronts wear at a higher rate..
Post by: elbrownos on 26 April 2013, 09:40:59 am
How do you judge when the front sprocket needs replacing?
To change it, do you break the chain or loosen the rear axle bolts?
Post by: Dead Eye on 26 April 2013, 10:53:59 am
Post by: elbrownos on 26 April 2013, 06:19:08 pm
It was only 9mm so I didn't buy it. They insisted this is the current one but knew nothing of the saga.
Any ideas?
Post by: Chris on 26 April 2013, 06:25:51 pm
Chris
Edit: Part number for new 12mm nut + washer is 90891-10124
Post by: darrsi on 26 April 2013, 06:27:41 pm
Give Fowlers of Bristol a ring and order it from them, they'll ask you for your chassis number so have it ready, it's on the frame at the front of the tank.
I haven't got the part number to hand but it's on this forum so do a search for the correct part number.
Post by: gerkin on 26 April 2013, 06:29:51 pm
I went to Loughborough Yamaha today to get the replacement front sprocket nut.
It was only 9mm so I didn't buy it. They insisted this is the current one but knew nothing of the saga.
Any ideas?
granbys said the same to me ,yamaha dont want to admit there is a problem
Post by: gerkin on 26 April 2013, 06:48:37 pm
nut and washer kit part no
Post by: darrsi on 26 April 2013, 07:10:44 pm
Post by: Dead Eye on 26 April 2013, 07:38:59 pm
http://www.wemoto.com/parts/picture/yh-90891-10124/ (http://www.wemoto.com/parts/picture/yh-90891-10124/)
Post by: andybesy on 27 April 2013, 04:19:06 am
Post by: andybesy on 27 April 2013, 04:24:49 am
Post by: Andy Clap on 27 April 2013, 10:29:58 am
I contacted my local Yamaha dealer, CMC Clay Cross, Chesterfield and mentioned the inspection notice. They knew immediately about the problem and checked if my bike had been done, it hadn't, they ordered the parts and fitted them free of charge.
Can't fault the service that I have received from CMC.
I would advise anybody to contact their dealer and mention the inspection notice to service before buying the parts.
Ditto. My 2002 Fazer 600, not dealer serviced since 2004, CMC Clay Cross did it FOC with no quibbles at all. This was about September 2012. Even got a free coffee in the cafe while waiting!
Post by: gerkin on 27 April 2013, 05:34:48 pm
Its also available from Wemoto - purchased this myself so can confirm that it is most definitely the 12mm nut :)
[url]http://www.wemoto.com/parts/picture/yh-90891-10124/[/url] ([url]http://www.wemoto.com/parts/picture/yh-90891-10124/[/url])
thats a good price , i paid 10.50 delivered from granbys 2 years ago
Post by: Enceladus on 04 May 2013, 08:29:30 pm
and yes, i know its mucky!
took the photo's before i cleaned the crud out!
sprocket 1 |
sprocket 2 |
sprocket 3 |
sprocket 4 |
Post by: ChristoT on 04 May 2013, 09:05:52 pm
can anyone tell a numpty like me wether i need to sort mine please ?
and yes, i know its mucky!
took the photo's before i cleaned the crud out!
They *look* like the new type to me, but doesn't hurt to get a proper dealer to take a peek at it.
Post by: Foxwood on 04 May 2013, 09:15:53 pm
Post by: Enceladus on 04 May 2013, 09:18:58 pm
Doesn't matter really as the nut has held. Mine was visibly loose and only the locking washer was holding the sprocket on. I'd still recommend acquiring the new nut when changing the sprockets next time. Doesn't look like the nut is flush with the axle end as the new nut is, so could be that's still the old nut type. Only measuring the thickness would tell for sure. 9 mm -> old nut and 12 mm -> new nut.thanks
i'll keep an eye on it and change it next time i do the sprockets just to be safe.
Post by: Foxwood on 04 May 2013, 09:28:08 pm
thanks
i'll keep an eye on it and change it next time i do the sprockets just to be safe.
No problem.
A good indicator that something might be going wrong is unordinary noise coming from the chains/sprockets that doesn't cease with lubing or tightening of the chains. At least that's how I caught onto my problem at first. :) Oh and found a few pics of the 2 different nuts to visualize them.
Edit: Left one is old and right one is new.
Post by: Enceladus on 04 May 2013, 09:32:20 pm
many thanks :)thanks
i'll keep an eye on it and change it next time i do the sprockets just to be safe.
No problem.
A good indicator that something might be going wrong is unordinary noise coming from the chains/sprockets that doesn't cease with lubing or tightening of the chains. At least that's how I caught onto my problem at first. :) Oh and found a few pics of the 2 different nuts to visualize them.
Edit: Left one is old and right one is new.
Post by: Enceladus on 04 May 2013, 10:48:40 pm
not sure if it will help anyone.......
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230918451728 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230918451728)
Post by: ChristoT on 04 May 2013, 11:40:53 pm
spotted this
not sure if it will help anyone.......
[url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230918451728[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230918451728[/url])
Why bother paying? If it's not been done Yamaha are still changing them for free!
Post by: Foxwood on 05 May 2013, 12:23:10 am
spotted this
not sure if it will help anyone.......
[url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230918451728[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230918451728[/url])
Why bother paying? If it's not been done Yamaha are still changing them for free!
Local dealer said not a known problem.
Finnish importer's technical assistance manager also said not a known problem, FZ-6 issues not related even though basically the same structure and the technical service bulletin numbers didn't relate to anything in the databases.
Finnish importer's Yamaha motorcycle product family line manager also said the same and relayed some bullshit e-mail from a Yamaha Europe representative (handily had censored all critical info, like names and e-mail addresses).
:wall
After enough of doing that, I just bought the f*cking new nut of eBay. Wasn't really expecting much for 14 year-old bike, but I do know now that I will never ever be buying a new Yamaha or spare parts from the local importer.
Post by: Dave48 on 05 May 2013, 07:04:36 am
Post by: darrsi on 05 May 2013, 11:09:55 am
spotted this
not sure if it will help anyone.......
[url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230918451728[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230918451728[/url])
Why bother paying? If it's not been done Yamaha are still changing them for free!
Local dealer said not a known problem.
Finnish importer's technical assistance manager also said not a known problem, FZ-6 issues not related even though basically the same structure and the technical service bulletin numbers didn't relate to anything in the databases.
Finnish importer's Yamaha motorcycle product family line manager also said the same and relayed some bullshit e-mail from a Yamaha Europe representative (handily had censored all critical info, like names and e-mail addresses).
:wall
After enough of doing that, I just bought the f*cking new nut of eBay. Wasn't really expecting much for 14 year-old bike, but I do know now that I will never ever be buying a new Yamaha or spare parts from the local importer.
Next time you see them show them the service note number: SERVICE NOTE 2005-12A
More info here as well: http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,92.msg370.html#msg370 (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,92.msg370.html#msg370)