They still have to pay tariffs if the whole thing isn't made in the UK, as well as the paperwork which is the same if sending goods to France, NI is as far as trade is concerned the EU
We will be negotiating with the EU for years to come. This isn't a divorce, we've just moved out and are arguing about the CDs
QuoteThey still have to pay tariffs if the whole thing isn't made in the UK, as well as the paperwork which is the same if sending goods to France, NI is as far as trade is concerned the EU True, no tariffs if the components are made elsewhere in the EU of course.
Twats who think lockdown rules don't apply to them and have scant regard for their relatives or others I live in a very quiet area in the countryside, I'm the easily the youngest by at least 15 yrs or so. My road/cul-de-sac is mainly just drive ways with the odd bit of parking on the road leading to it, the road is normally empty save the odd car. This morning it's full I mean rammed, 12 cars, driven by 40 - 60yrs olds who don't live here, some with kids visiting mum/dad etc, I know a good few live in London and East Anglia, which are between 120 - 170 miles away one way WTF, they're just not getting it no wonder this thing is spreading like wildfire, when mum/dad/nan/grandad catch it and die they'll be saying "I don't know how he/she got it we were so careful" TWATS absolute C*^ts
If you are the youngest in the area by 15 years and the people visiting are 40-60 it sounds to me like your neighbours are all 60-80.
How do you know that they are not in a support bubble.
Quote from: fazersharp on 09 January 2021, 01:46:10 pm If you are the youngest in the area by 15 years and the people visiting are 40-60 it sounds to me like your neighbours are all 60-80.Correct ish 90 plus too.Quote from: fazersharp on 09 January 2021, 01:46:10 pm How do you know that they are not in a support bubble.Support bubbles are for people in single households only, only one is on his own, he's not getting these visits as we support him and he has no family. These visiting are in groups, haven't been here for weeks or months, not to mention the distances they travelled, no not support bubbles, just twats.
I see. Call the police then.
As for support bubbles there is no limit on the distance to go and support a single person or the single person to go to them, but there is advice to try and keep your support local.
A support bubble is where you support someone on a regular bases 1 -2 time per week, be on call available to help at short notice etc.
Wrong. Go and read the Government website on the rules of support bubbles. Also there are no restrictions on the on the size of the supporting bubbled household. And no restriction on the distance needed to travel to do the support Go and read the Government website there is no grey - its all in black and white.
Quote from: fazersharp on 09 January 2021, 03:22:38 pmWrong. Go and read the Government website on the rules of support bubbles. Also there are no restrictions on the on the size of the supporting bubbled household. And no restriction on the distance needed to travel to do the support Go and read the Government website there is no grey - its all in black and white.There's is no way two family members and kids turning up, after driving well over a 100 miles is a support bubble, grey areas If the cap fits wear it twats
Quote from: Gnasher on 09 January 2021, 03:28:39 pmQuote from: fazersharp on 09 January 2021, 03:22:38 pmWrong. Go and read the Government website on the rules of support bubbles. Also there are no restrictions on the on the size of the supporting bubbled household. And no restriction on the distance needed to travel to do the support Go and read the Government website there is no grey - its all in black and white.Any size household can be a support bubble but the bubbleeeee must be a single person house hold. Single person households include households that have a single parent with children under 18 or where you have older people and one is a carer for the other.There's is no way two family members and kids turning up, after driving well over a 100 miles is a support bubble, grey areas If the cap fits wear it twats Go and read the Gov website - any size of household can be a support bubble and the only thing it says about distance to go and support is " it is best if this is with a household who live locally".So yes of course its best if they can live locally but what about if they don't. Also support is not limited to providing physical help or doing the shopping like you do for your neighbour but was also introduced as a recognition of those living alone and needing mental health support.
Quote from: fazersharp on 09 January 2021, 03:22:38 pmWrong. Go and read the Government website on the rules of support bubbles. Also there are no restrictions on the on the size of the supporting bubbled household. And no restriction on the distance needed to travel to do the support Go and read the Government website there is no grey - its all in black and white.Any size household can be a support bubble but the bubbleeeee must be a single person house hold. Single person households include households that have a single parent with children under 18 or where you have older people and one is a carer for the other.There's is no way two family members and kids turning up, after driving well over a 100 miles is a support bubble, grey areas If the cap fits wear it twats
From the government website - What is a support bubble?"If you form a support bubble, it is best if this is with a household who live locally. This will help prevent the virus spreading from an area where more people are infected." This reinforces what Gnasher has said - in order words use common sense, don't be traveling 100+ miles. Also these kinds of distances will potentially run afoul of Teir travel restrictions/guidelines. And to counter the 'its all there in black and white' statement, the above "it is best" statement above completely shuts that argument down. Clearly the government are completely incapable of being black and white about the rules, so how can they expect the population to?Regarding the number of people allowed in a support bubble, again the government have been unclear. But common sense should take over here. For example you could logically interoperate the pre-existing 'rule of six'. If both support bubbles combined is over six then, then don't be turning up with with the wife and kids. Then when you do have to do a support visit, don't be getting withing 2m of the person your doing the support visit for.You cant fix stupid, turns out you can't quarantine it either. But moving on, this thread is bordering on getting political. Find something else to discuss chaps.
Also these kinds of distances will potentially run afoul of Teir travel restrictions/guidelines.
"Regarding the number of people allowed in a support bubble, again the government have been unclear."
Then when you do have to do a support visit, don't be getting within 2m of the person your doing the support visit for
More twats https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-55601600Or rather C*&ts
Wrong - its perfectly clear from the gov.uk site ---You can form a support bubble with another household of any sizeQuoteThen when you do have to do a support visit, don't be getting within 2m of the person your doing the support visit for.Wrong also
from the gov.uk site you do not need to maintain social distance with people in your support bubble
Who mentioned anything about this?I appears as always you don't read things fully before, going off half cocked As said if the cap fits wear it
One person living alone can yes, as said my previous these I'm referring to aren't living alone, they're are living with their wife/husbands or partners. With family mum/dad and the kids turning up after driving a 100 miles plus. Not a support bubble just selfish twats
You can also have both a support bubble and a childcare bubble. So for instance we have my wife's best friend for a support bubble as she is a single mum of a 7 year old and has no family (except a Dad who's in a care home with dementia) then we are also in a child car bubble with the in laws so that they can have the kids over at theirs every now and again (their choice not ours)
But on the note of the lockdown, I took my kids down the seafront for our daily walk and it was packed! May aswell gave been the middle of the summer. Roads aren't really any emptier either.
I read on the news about how the Gov is moaning that more and more people are bending the rules but honestly what do they expect. After nearly a full year of restrictions People are sick to death of it all. I honestly don't know anyone that supports these restrictions or think they work and the vast majority of people would rather just be left to get on with it.
I think the disillusion is starting to set it with even the strictest of people because it feels like you can't win. You follow the rules, don't see your family, lose all your savings... and yet you still get locked down.
So you may as well have ignored it all and did what you wanted.... you'd be in the same position now either way
On the plus side if the infection keeps spreading the way it is we will have all had it by the end of winter. Heard immunity achieved and the government can make some money sleeing off all the vaccines to poorer countries
They probably are just selfish twats but the defnition of alone includes households of more than one where the people are ill, acting as carers etc. My dad doesnt live alone. HE lives with my step mum who is undergoing cancer treatment so he is her carer. Under the rules he can form a bubble with another household. Being sensible though, he is keeping himself to himself and myself/brother are just meeting him on his driveway once or twice a week for a socially distanced beer to keep his spirits up. Its feccin cold this time of year though!!